It's just infuriating, there is no good reason for not supporting firefox
It it's any consolation, it barely works under ideal conditions anyway.
I thought it might be sensible on Linux to use MS Edge for Teams (the PWA version).
Nope, it's just as shit in Microsoft's own browser. There is apparently no saving it.
I tried the same thing and was flabbergasted at how badly optimized it is. It take ages to load in all three of the browsers I tried and it's not even worth it since their feature set is 10 years behind the market!
Teams doesn't work properly in browsers. Doesn't matter of it's Firefox or Edge. It will randomly crash for no reason.
My favourite example of this is how it handles audio devices. Every other app just uses the default Windows audio devices, maybe with an option to change it to something else if you want, but not Teams. It has to handle the choosing of the audio device itself. I once saw this lead to the fantastic situation where the sound in Windows was working fine via someone’s USB headset, but Teams decided it wanted to use the headphone jack built into their laptop dock as it’s audio device instead (no headphones were even plugged in). We manually changed it but it kept defaulting back to the headphone jack every time the dock was disconnected and reconnected! I can’t remember what fixed it in the end, probably just a reinstall or something but it was still a stupid and easily avoidable issue.
This problem also exists on the android app. When I put my ear buds in, teams somehow just refuses to switch to them. No other app has this problem, just teams.
I am one of the last to defend Microsoft but I just tried it with Firefox 118.0.1 64-Bit on Win11 22H2 22621.2134 with uBlock Origin enabled.
Loaded a good few times but it loaded and can chat.
Seems more like a you problem!
Login loops, cookie mess, until recently calling not supported on Firefox (like what?)
I mean it’s 2023 and you come up with this abomination, Microsoft?
Teams should be illegal at this point.
The only reason it exists is to keep companies trapped in the MS ecosystem. They do this with all kinds of things. For instance at my work it's required for all engineers to get Azure certified due to a deal we have with MS. They don't care about their product. They don't care about their users. Hell they don't even care about their employees. It's just B2b == money, all day every day
Can't forget it's just reskinned Skype for Business. It was shit back in the day, but at least everything else was shitty aswell.
In our company we self host Rocket.Chat, and damn me if it isn't the best thing ever. It just fucking works, flawlessly.
Microsoft Teams has a completely different technical base than Skype for Business. Other platform, other language, other tech stack, other APIs, other protocols, other features. The one that just was a reskinned something was Skype for Business, formerly known as Lync, formerly known as Office Communicator, formerly known as Windows Messenger, formerly known as Exchange Conferencing, ...
What was the name of that thing before they gave it the skypeful makeover and added a bunch of useless annoying features? It was actually pretty good back then. Every redesign since then it's been getting worse and worse.
Edit: I just remembered it was called Lync.
Oh, I don't recognize that name. I ve only been using MST for a year now at a new job. Since I am a contractor for another company, I still use self hosted Rocket.Chat instance, with Jitsi integration so we can also do calls.
How recently did calling become supported? About a month ago I was still unable to even log in using Firefox unless I used a user agent switcher, and even then only text-based messaging worked.
I read somewhere Firefox now changes its user agent automatically for Teams, maybe that fixed it.
Teams barely even works in Teams
Also this
Weird, for me it does work.
Same, maybe some extension conflict?
Don't know, I only got youtube dislike and ublock addon, it also doesn't work for my friends tho
It's probably ublock origin
I have uBlock Origin and it doesn't do the thing displayed in the picture.
Maybe they're using custom lists
uBlock's behaviour depends on which lists you're using.
Oh I have it installed on both Windows 10 and Windows 11. It doesn't work. It takes ages to load, it never updates people's status correctly, half the time it doesn't even log in. Why they didn't just patch Skype instead of making that pile of garbage is beyond me.
My company uses SSO with Microsoft Exchange and it works flawlessly.
Fixing the login doesn't fix the rest of Teams' problems. Maybe you're the chosen one and everything works for you, but it's not a common experience.
ITT: pretty much everyone who actually tried it reports that OP is wrong
Also, calling them "shitsoft" just makes you seem whiny. If you want to make a serious point about something, don't do that.
Teams always has been shit with Firefox, while there is no reason to be shit. Like people said higher in the comments, if you change the user agent to edge magically new features are enabled.
Also Microsoft claimed to support Linux while in reality they made some half assed desktop client, and dropped support about a year later.
Slack was so much better, I really really hate that our office went with teams. Also for some strange reason teams is the only "website" that seems to crash my entire laptop once in a while and its the only app that makes my phone super hot.
I don't think, that !mildlyinfuriating is for actually solving tech problems.
It didn't work for me and some of my friends, so I'm complaining
While I agree with you that some people here seem to have the misconception that this is a place for tech support, that comma placement is... mildlyinfuriating.
Yep. Use it at work every day (on Ubuntu). Gives you more features than the "oicial preview client" used to do (like custom video backgrounds and screen sharing on Wayland) but you can run it as a seperate app instead of just in your browser.
It doesnt work on my systems ( firefox + windows, not linux ) either. With some user agent magic (tricking its running on safari/ios) it works... Except when you enable your camera in teams >>
Shitsoft teams doesn't work on firefox
FTFY
I unfortunately have to work regularly with Ms teams and it's a gargantuan shit show that doesn't work, period. Why anyone would want to even use this is beyond me. About 6 months ago I posted a list of over 20 bugs on Reddit in the /teams sub reddit and I just got flooded with replies like "liar" and "you suck"
Fuck everything about sucksoft
I thought teams sucked as a user experience... my last job, well my last job I was IT. If it involved a computer I was involved.
Anyways, administrating teams is a fucking god awful nightmare, honestly a lot of Microsoft's eco system is awful as a sysadmin. But teams and sharepoint take the cake for being fucked.
Don't know what settings/configs/add-ons you got, but at the college I go to, they don't allow modifications on school computers. Teams, which I am forced to use in 3 of my classes and it just works.
Mine works in my pc as well
Fuck this piece of shit software. I'm so done with this. Today, there was an issue with the audio freezing while playing videos embedded in a presentation. Cant even Do the one thing it is supposed to do.
But there is a good reason! The reason is: Promote Edge! /s
Do you have enhanced tracking protection on? Knowing Microsoft you might need to disable it for teams to work right
They told me in the UI to turn it off.
It could be the issue or OP didnt read the error message.
People don't read error messages, even if they describe exactly what to do to fix the problem. :(
Firefox's tracking protection is very aggressive and breaks some sites because it incorrectly thinks a first-party domain is actually a third-party one. For example, for some sites it thought the CDN at a separate domain was a third-party domain and blocked all the JS from loading. At work I've had to make a bunch of fixes to the disconnect.me list they use.
is it just not working on firefox or artificially not supporting it? if the second option is true, then i think there's a way to spoof websites into thinking you're running chrome.
Not sure, I can login and all, but chats, etc. don't render
I've seen the exact same behaviour in the actual teams client on Windows. I think it's likely just a bug.
I think it's a bug too since I'm using teams web interface fine on Linux. I don't like it but it works for meetings.
Teams does not have bugs, it has features.
it's a feature for digital wellbeing! if the software isn't rendering chats, you can spend more time meditating and touching grass!
because YOU "matter"!
microsoft, probably
I spent over an hour yesterday trying to fix onedrive sync issues caused by teams yesterday. I hate that software with a vengeance!
The desktop app won't work on my machine because it ALWAYS tries to connect to my ActiveDirectory account, but my company doesn't use Teams so that always fails. It says it can be configured to use a personal account but it lies, and always goes for the AD first. I'm forced to use the web client for any meeting that requires Teams.
I think you have to download a separate version of teams to be able to use it with a personal account only.
I've found it works with Firefox but breaks a lot with Ublock (with a lot of filters enabled) or URL cleaning apps, for what it's worth.
I had some issues with calling within teams on Firefox. I was able to resolve it by installing the Firefox plugin that resolves it.
I am using only flatpak for this garbage.
Me too - can't share my screen, can't drag and drop files from folder other than Downloads, and if I am too fast when opening chat a start wroting a message it switches to RTL. Not talking about login loops, login expires but cookie doesn't (if I close it, open it again, and I am fast enough I can still chat and it arrives, checked via phone).
I hate teams but sadly I'm forced to use it in school. Our city spent ridiculous amount of money developing an ms SharePoint/office site for all schools so now I'm stuck with shotsoft teams :(
I use the teams web interface, it works fine on Linux. Can't do screen share on Firefox however, only in Chrome, so I switch over when I have to.
Works for me. It's annoying af but it definitely works, on my personal PC even more reliably than the actual Teams app
It works fine in librewolf. Whats your user agent?
It it's any consolation, it barely works under ideal conditions anyway.
I thought it might be sensible on Linux to use MS Edge for Teams (the PWA version).
Nope, it's just as shit in Microsoft's own browser. There is apparently no saving it.
I tried the same thing and was flabbergasted at how badly optimized it is. It take ages to load in all three of the browsers I tried and it's not even worth it since their feature set is 10 years behind the market!
Teams doesn't work properly in browsers. Doesn't matter of it's Firefox or Edge. It will randomly crash for no reason.
My favourite example of this is how it handles audio devices. Every other app just uses the default Windows audio devices, maybe with an option to change it to something else if you want, but not Teams. It has to handle the choosing of the audio device itself. I once saw this lead to the fantastic situation where the sound in Windows was working fine via someone’s USB headset, but Teams decided it wanted to use the headphone jack built into their laptop dock as it’s audio device instead (no headphones were even plugged in). We manually changed it but it kept defaulting back to the headphone jack every time the dock was disconnected and reconnected! I can’t remember what fixed it in the end, probably just a reinstall or something but it was still a stupid and easily avoidable issue.
This problem also exists on the android app. When I put my ear buds in, teams somehow just refuses to switch to them. No other app has this problem, just teams.
I am one of the last to defend Microsoft but I just tried it with Firefox 118.0.1 64-Bit on Win11 22H2 22621.2134 with uBlock Origin enabled.
Loaded a good few times but it loaded and can chat.
Seems more like a you problem!
I.D.10-T error, probably.
Teams is a fucking joke and I hate it.
Login loops, cookie mess, until recently calling not supported on Firefox (like what?)
I mean it’s 2023 and you come up with this abomination, Microsoft?
Teams should be illegal at this point.
The only reason it exists is to keep companies trapped in the MS ecosystem. They do this with all kinds of things. For instance at my work it's required for all engineers to get Azure certified due to a deal we have with MS. They don't care about their product. They don't care about their users. Hell they don't even care about their employees. It's just B2b == money, all day every day
Can't forget it's just reskinned Skype for Business. It was shit back in the day, but at least everything else was shitty aswell.
In our company we self host Rocket.Chat, and damn me if it isn't the best thing ever. It just fucking works, flawlessly.
Microsoft Teams has a completely different technical base than Skype for Business. Other platform, other language, other tech stack, other APIs, other protocols, other features. The one that just was a reskinned something was Skype for Business, formerly known as Lync, formerly known as Office Communicator, formerly known as Windows Messenger, formerly known as Exchange Conferencing, ...
What was the name of that thing before they gave it the skypeful makeover and added a bunch of useless annoying features? It was actually pretty good back then. Every redesign since then it's been getting worse and worse.
Edit: I just remembered it was called Lync.
Oh, I don't recognize that name. I ve only been using MST for a year now at a new job. Since I am a contractor for another company, I still use self hosted Rocket.Chat instance, with Jitsi integration so we can also do calls.
How recently did calling become supported? About a month ago I was still unable to even log in using Firefox unless I used a user agent switcher, and even then only text-based messaging worked.
I read somewhere Firefox now changes its user agent automatically for Teams, maybe that fixed it.
Teams barely even works in Teams
Also this
Weird, for me it does work.
Same, maybe some extension conflict?
Don't know, I only got youtube dislike and ublock addon, it also doesn't work for my friends tho
It's probably ublock origin
I have uBlock Origin and it doesn't do the thing displayed in the picture.
Maybe they're using custom lists
uBlock's behaviour depends on which lists you're using.
Are they all on Linux too?
Teams doesn't work on anything
Works on my work laptop with windows 11
Good for you!
Oh I have it installed on both Windows 10 and Windows 11. It doesn't work. It takes ages to load, it never updates people's status correctly, half the time it doesn't even log in. Why they didn't just patch Skype instead of making that pile of garbage is beyond me.
My company uses SSO with Microsoft Exchange and it works flawlessly.
Fixing the login doesn't fix the rest of Teams' problems. Maybe you're the chosen one and everything works for you, but it's not a common experience.
ITT: pretty much everyone who actually tried it reports that OP is wrong
Also, calling them "shitsoft" just makes you seem whiny. If you want to make a serious point about something, don't do that.
Teams always has been shit with Firefox, while there is no reason to be shit. Like people said higher in the comments, if you change the user agent to edge magically new features are enabled.
Also Microsoft claimed to support Linux while in reality they made some half assed desktop client, and dropped support about a year later.
Slack was so much better, I really really hate that our office went with teams. Also for some strange reason teams is the only "website" that seems to crash my entire laptop once in a while and its the only app that makes my phone super hot.
I don't think, that !mildlyinfuriating is for actually solving tech problems.
It didn't work for me and some of my friends, so I'm complaining
While I agree with you that some people here seem to have the misconception that this is a place for tech support, that comma placement is... mildlyinfuriating.
Work fine for me in Firefox on Linux.
Works fine for me on Firefox on Windows10 on an old thinkpad that can barely run Google Meet now.
Switch agent to Google Chrome / Chromium and things will work magically.
this
Let’s not forget that Teams also uses SharePoint as a backend to some of its functions. If ever there was a pile of shit to build on…
https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux
This is great. Highly recommended.
Yep. Use it at work every day (on Ubuntu). Gives you more features than the "oicial preview client" used to do (like custom video backgrounds and screen sharing on Wayland) but you can run it as a seperate app instead of just in your browser.
It doesnt work on my systems ( firefox + windows, not linux ) either. With some user agent magic (tricking its running on safari/ios) it works... Except when you enable your camera in teams >>
FTFY
I unfortunately have to work regularly with Ms teams and it's a gargantuan shit show that doesn't work, period. Why anyone would want to even use this is beyond me. About 6 months ago I posted a list of over 20 bugs on Reddit in the /teams sub reddit and I just got flooded with replies like "liar" and "you suck"
Fuck everything about sucksoft
I thought teams sucked as a user experience... my last job, well my last job I was IT. If it involved a computer I was involved.
Anyways, administrating teams is a fucking god awful nightmare, honestly a lot of Microsoft's eco system is awful as a sysadmin. But teams and sharepoint take the cake for being fucked.
Don't know what settings/configs/add-ons you got, but at the college I go to, they don't allow modifications on school computers. Teams, which I am forced to use in 3 of my classes and it just works.
Mine works in my pc as well
Fuck this piece of shit software. I'm so done with this. Today, there was an issue with the audio freezing while playing videos embedded in a presentation. Cant even Do the one thing it is supposed to do.
But there is a good reason! The reason is: Promote Edge! /s
Do you have enhanced tracking protection on? Knowing Microsoft you might need to disable it for teams to work right
They told me in the UI to turn it off.
It could be the issue or OP didnt read the error message.
People don't read error messages, even if they describe exactly what to do to fix the problem. :(
Firefox's tracking protection is very aggressive and breaks some sites because it incorrectly thinks a first-party domain is actually a third-party one. For example, for some sites it thought the CDN at a separate domain was a third-party domain and blocked all the JS from loading. At work I've had to make a bunch of fixes to the disconnect.me list they use.
is it just not working on firefox or artificially not supporting it? if the second option is true, then i think there's a way to spoof websites into thinking you're running chrome.
Not sure, I can login and all, but chats, etc. don't render
I've seen the exact same behaviour in the actual teams client on Windows. I think it's likely just a bug.
I think it's a bug too since I'm using teams web interface fine on Linux. I don't like it but it works for meetings.
Teams does not have bugs, it has features.
it's a feature for digital wellbeing! if the software isn't rendering chats, you can spend more time meditating and touching grass! because YOU "matter"!
I spent over an hour yesterday trying to fix onedrive sync issues caused by teams yesterday. I hate that software with a vengeance!
The desktop app won't work on my machine because it ALWAYS tries to connect to my ActiveDirectory account, but my company doesn't use Teams so that always fails. It says it can be configured to use a personal account but it lies, and always goes for the AD first. I'm forced to use the web client for any meeting that requires Teams.
I think you have to download a separate version of teams to be able to use it with a personal account only.
I've found it works with Firefox but breaks a lot with Ublock (with a lot of filters enabled) or URL cleaning apps, for what it's worth.
I had some issues with calling within teams on Firefox. I was able to resolve it by installing the Firefox plugin that resolves it.
I am using only flatpak for this garbage.
Me too - can't share my screen, can't drag and drop files from folder other than Downloads, and if I am too fast when opening chat a start wroting a message it switches to RTL. Not talking about login loops, login expires but cookie doesn't (if I close it, open it again, and I am fast enough I can still chat and it arrives, checked via phone).
I hate teams but sadly I'm forced to use it in school. Our city spent ridiculous amount of money developing an ms SharePoint/office site for all schools so now I'm stuck with shotsoft teams :(
I use the teams web interface, it works fine on Linux. Can't do screen share on Firefox however, only in Chrome, so I switch over when I have to.
Works for me. It's annoying af but it definitely works, on my personal PC even more reliably than the actual Teams app
It works fine in librewolf. Whats your user agent?
not secure enough for firefox. poor microsoft.