Jeff Bezos plays down AI dangers and says a trillion humans could live in huge cylindrical space stations

L4sBot@lemmy.worldmod to Technology@lemmy.world – 132 points – Jeff Bezos plays down AI dangers and says one trillion humans could live in huge cylindrical space stations
marketwatch.com

Jeff Bezos plays down AI dangers and says a trillion humans could live in huge cylindrical space stations::The billionaire said people living in space could visit Earth on vacation.

58

Sorry, Earth is only for billionaires now. Proles get to live in space tubes.

Which is literally what Bezos wants. He wants to move "heavy industry" into space to "save earth". He'd rather spend his money flying the poor's into space to work and die than on anything that could save earth for everyone.

EAT! THE! MOTHER FUCKING! RICH! Before they sacrifice Earth.

The key word here is "could". Just like billionaires "could" use their wealth and power to stop the destruction of the biosphere and free humanity from the shackles of wealth inequality.

It'd be a lot cooler if they did, but if they operated like that they wouldn't be billionaires to begin with...

Billionaires: exists

Humanity: "Be a lot cooler if you didn't"

While spending 75% of their earnings on a rent and the rest 25% on various subscriptions to continue functioning and enriching the multi trillion dollar corporations.

You will own nothing and be happy.

Imagine a world where AI helps 1 trillion people live in some sort of space station. Food is grown by AI, repairs/jobs are done by AI. All you can do is to chill & relax.

Yeah, I can't imagine that too...

Our inability to increase the wealth of the elite will render us useless and therefor our ability to continue existing will end well before any of that happens

This motherfucker mailed me the same blu-ray box set smashed to shards twice in a row before he finally put the third copy into some goddamn bubble wrap, and he wants me to trust his space station with my life!?

Says the guy who works his people so bad they have to pee in water bottles.

Bezos needs to put himself in one of Elon's cylinders to go see outer space.

Preferably stay there if he makes it. He could defenetly live there if we send some battle racions sometimes

What do you think the people will be doing in his space cans?

I like how they believe in these systems working yet the couldn't handle the fact that many jobs can be done remotely..

You will commute from your home space cylinder complex to the office cubicle space cylinder complex. There is no other way the system works.

Ignore wealth inequality, huff my farts. —Bezos

So this is why Prime Video cancelled The Expanse... Don't want those future Belters getting any ideas.

Not going to read the article, because it’s bull, the only way humanity gets there are for mentally impaired people like him stop hoarding wealth. I’m sure if we totaled up everything spent on yachts and gave it to nasa, or some other public space entity, I would be typing this in one of those tubes.

I guess this is supposed to be the 99.9%’s last sacrifice to our 0.1% overlords before the world boils away? “Many of you will die making my space tube, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make. I also need 72 virgins for repopulation purposes.”

I would love to see a trillion humans living in the solar system. If we had a trillion humans, we would have, at any given time, 1,000 Mozarts and 1,000 Einsteins.

So if one in a billion people are an Einstein or Mozart, does that mean there are 8 Mozarts and 8 Einsteins alive in the world right now? I wonder who would make the list?

There's probably much more. Half of them only recognised in their village somewhere in the middle of South Asia, the other half too burnt out with work and continuous crises to notice they could be good at something.

I think that today's world makes it harder to stand out as a genius, even with more opportunity. Most modern composers with any public name recognition are movie composers, like Hans Zimmer, Howard Shore, and John Williams. Absolutely incredible scores without their movies, but are any Mozart level? I bet the Mozart level ones are probably well known in the orchestral world, but none of them are probably very well known outside of it.

And as far as scientists and mathematics, those roles have been pretty much entirely commercialized and corporatized. Even stuff for the public good is largely funded through grants and private investors, so the geniuses are always beholden to others who will take the real credit.

All of the recognized "geniuses" that I can think of are business-savvy grifters like musk and bozos and Zuck, all riding the coattails of the real innovators. Plus, these three specifically, if you look at their vanity projects and shit, they're all pretty insane.

Artists generally go where the money is.

Mozart would be scoring movies because that’s where all the commissions are.

so, is he, like, into ayhuasca now?

No shit, Bezos. Did you just pick up a magazine from the 1980s with one of McCall’s paintings in it? We’ve been dreaming of cylindrical space stations for decades.

Okay, so the the Cylindrical Space Stations actually are a viable Method of living in space. However, I think people are less worried about AI as they should be.

How are you supposed to have agriculture in a giant tin can in space?

On the interior surface of the can. The can is big enough to have a functional gradient for things like agriculture.

Sooo why would shareholders want to spend any potential profit on just having humans?

What value do they bring?

This is why we can't have nice things!

I’m more afraid of the world billionaires have made for us. I’ll take my chances with the AI.

Yes, because it's people like you and me developing AI ...

It was the dawn of the 3rd age of human kind...

In one age, called the third age by some, a windbag rose in the west. This windbag was not the first, nor would he be the last. There are no first or last windbags in the wheel of bullshit, but he was A windbag.

Yeah but happily and healthily? And for how long? And what about all the studies showing the rapid degeneration of bone density and immune functions when in space?

That spaceship stuff is science FICTION for a reason.

So an O'Neil cylinder exploits rotation to simulate gravity. When set up properly it feels just like gravity we're used to here on earth. That should at least help curb the effects of microgravity. Radiation shouldn't be much of a problem as people would be living on the inside of the cylinder with meters of material between them and outer space.

And who’s paying to put all those gazillion bazillions of cubic tonnes of radiation shielding into space?

Not trying to defend Jeff here, but generally these kind of space megaprojects rely on manufacturing materials in space. I.e. capture an asteroid and use its material as the radiation shielding. Not that that's currently anywhere near feasible ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah I read lots of sci-fi as a kid too. We’d be there by now except physics is a cruel and unyielding mistress.

dude spent years to barely get to leo. uh, i mean 'space'.... im spose to care what he says about something will never even be planned in his lifetime??

Sounds great as long as capitalism and billionaires are eliminated. People like Bezos and the systems that enable them are the biggest threat to a better future nya >.<