Is he unable or does he just rip off Hitler because it seems to be working for him?
Remains to be seen. Mostly full-on bloviation at this point.
Both, and also he just loves Hitler and everything he stood for.
Oh, it is working magnificently. Dictator talk has always been big among a poor, desperate, ignorant populace as it makes it sound so comforting to be a select group and to have ridged rules against all others - it never works that way, but never mind that.
I hope the Americans realise that they will be electing their death certificate if it's this clown.
Some of us do. I fear not enough this time.
I’m sure most of us who are on Lemmy are all too aware of it. But man, you should see what some of our neighbors are like!
Nothing we can do. We can try to explain to his supporters but they are so brainwashed it's futile. The only one who can save us are the courts trying to lock him up, and we know how swift the justice system is here.
Bullshit. You can get out there and VOTE. You can also get everyone else you know to do the same
Everyone I know? I know a few trumpers. I do vote but as I said we can't change dumpster supporters minds.
Don't give up. I also work on the ones that are just vote-apathetic.
They are unreachable. Ignore them. It's the few remaining honest-to-god swing voters that we need to reach and convince.
America can probably dodge fascists for a while yet but wealthy neoliberals have spent millions of hours and billions of dollars trying to ensure that anyone who might genuinely fix things never has the power to do so.
There's the giant media companies looking to maximise their profits through manipulation and cronyism, rather than anything resembling actual journalism.
The legal system that's reluctant to investigate, prosecute or punish corporations and the ultra wealthy at the head of them, but enthusiastic about throwing poor people in for profit prisons.
Tech companies that will platform any reprehensible views in exchange for a few dollars of ad impressions, pumping their users for pennies with an elaborate emotional slot machine.
Then of course the open political corruption. Gerrymandering, insider trading, disenfranchised voters, voting machines with no paper trail and a deeply flawed election system where any vote that isn't for one of the two neoliberal parties is functionally thrown in the bin.
When we can't stand it any more, we're fed bullshit non-solutions instead, written and published by the problems themselves and designed to make them even richer.
"The free market will fix it. Buying more guns will fix it. Electing a man with the communication skills and emotional regulation of a toddler will fix it. Murdering people based on the amount of melanin in their body will fix it".
Each one has already been tried and each one has failed to even dent the issue, because if they had any chance of succeeding then they would have banded together to undermine them in a bipartisan act of class solidarity.
And fuck, that's just the politics. The same insatiably greedy, neoliberal trash is also responsible for the impending climate breakdown, endless wars and unprecedented levels of unemoloyment and homelessness because no matter how much we give them, they just can't say "no" to profits.
We need to vote, but we also need so much more than voting. We need the entire world to unite in protest, demanding their governments either acknowledge the rights, freedoms and entitlements of every person on the planet, or be held accountable when they don't.
So it's not hard to see why people might get disillusioned when "maybe if we abuse minorities more, we'll be able to own homes again" still seems to be an idea people want to explore.
You are—tragically—100% percent correct in my opinion. That is as I also see, the reality we live in. The shortsighted Neoliberal imbéciles would choke to death on a dollar if they had to eat their way to a penny.
However.
Even though things will, to heavily understate, suck, I'd urge you to not fully give in to despair. Last time Fascism rose, it bit them in the ass and they backed the other horse eventually.
I am not looking forward to dodging (or liquidating) brown shirts and Nazis, so if we can avoid that and just be poised for when climate catastrophe puts on the knife-edge of "this has never happened before" that would be great.
Those with thoughts like yours will be needed. The Resistance will need leaders and scholars to delineate the purpose.
Reality sucks and we shouldn't have to fight for it because of thousands of greedy piggies, but it's manifesting and we'll have to decide.
We need to vote. We should all vote. Then start working on what we need beyond that in what little steps we all can. The literal morning after the election, preferably.
this is just not realistic to the situation of the average non-brainwashed american
It's ok, because he'll get a lot of foreigners killed, too.
I think he's just regressing to early childhood. I bet his KKK-associated dad played recordings of Hitler's speeches
He apparently reads Hitler's speeches in bed. Has a book of them on his nightstand.
I find this highly unlikely as I say Trump is barely literate.
It's ok cuz the book was given to him by a Jew. (It wasn't, but he said it was in an interview and it turns out that the gift-giver's name has "Gold" in it, so the Nazi-flavored Cheeto assumed he was a Jew)
Apologies for the American ignorance, but I don't understand what you mean by "treatment" in this context
I just mean like an episode or series on Fred Trump and his influence on Mr. Trump
Oh! Yea, the felon has frequently talked about how his dad was an inspiration and role model in multiple speeches. Take this with a grain of salt though, because I hate his fascist voice and haven't independently verified this
Prior to eviction laws, Papa Trump would plan to tear down slum apartment buildings, but allow black families to move in. Then kick them all out the day of demolition, without warning. The Trumps and Kushners have all always been literal psychopaths.
You joke but there's no Hitler's Estate. His progeny decided not to procreate and essentially all died out after WW2.
Holy shit so he didn't go back in time to kill Hitler, he went to the future and killed future Hitler.
That's why Trump is taking up the mantle
That sounds like a fun twist to some hilariously bad WW2 fan-fiction
Hitler had no 'progeny'. That word means descendants, not descendants of siblings or cousins. Well ignoring some completely unproved allegations about some children from affairs that is.
And there are still some living descendants of Hitler's siblings. His older half brother Alois had two kids, the younger died during the war and the elder, William, didn't get on with Uncle Hitler so moved to the UK before the war. He later moved to the US and joined the US Navy in 1944. He changed his surname to Stuart-Houston and had four children, one of which is dead but the other three are still alive and childless.
His older half sister Angela married Leo Raubal and had three kids. Two of them had a child each who are still alive. Dunno if either of those have any kids.
"Five months after her death, the Federal Court in Berchtesgaden issued a certificate of inheritance in which Paula Hitler was awarded two-thirds of Hitler's estate.[2]"
It's just become really scary at this point, to be honest. The right have debased themselves so thoroughly, the only thing they have left is to actually elect this fucking psycho and be "right"
Humans tend to imitate those we idolize, don’t we?
What's next? Invading Poland?
No, invading Mexico.
Modification of Godwins Law:
As a speech of a populist (ex-)president grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.
Is he unable or does he just rip off Hitler because it seems to be working for him?
Remains to be seen. Mostly full-on bloviation at this point.
Both, and also he just loves Hitler and everything he stood for.
Oh, it is working magnificently. Dictator talk has always been big among a poor, desperate, ignorant populace as it makes it sound so comforting to be a select group and to have ridged rules against all others - it never works that way, but never mind that.
I hope the Americans realise that they will be electing their death certificate if it's this clown.
Some of us do. I fear not enough this time.
I’m sure most of us who are on Lemmy are all too aware of it. But man, you should see what some of our neighbors are like!
Nothing we can do. We can try to explain to his supporters but they are so brainwashed it's futile. The only one who can save us are the courts trying to lock him up, and we know how swift the justice system is here.
Bullshit. You can get out there and VOTE. You can also get everyone else you know to do the same
Everyone I know? I know a few trumpers. I do vote but as I said we can't change dumpster supporters minds.
Don't give up. I also work on the ones that are just vote-apathetic.
They are unreachable. Ignore them. It's the few remaining honest-to-god swing voters that we need to reach and convince.
America can probably dodge fascists for a while yet but wealthy neoliberals have spent millions of hours and billions of dollars trying to ensure that anyone who might genuinely fix things never has the power to do so.
There's the giant media companies looking to maximise their profits through manipulation and cronyism, rather than anything resembling actual journalism.
The legal system that's reluctant to investigate, prosecute or punish corporations and the ultra wealthy at the head of them, but enthusiastic about throwing poor people in for profit prisons.
Tech companies that will platform any reprehensible views in exchange for a few dollars of ad impressions, pumping their users for pennies with an elaborate emotional slot machine.
Then of course the open political corruption. Gerrymandering, insider trading, disenfranchised voters, voting machines with no paper trail and a deeply flawed election system where any vote that isn't for one of the two neoliberal parties is functionally thrown in the bin.
When we can't stand it any more, we're fed bullshit non-solutions instead, written and published by the problems themselves and designed to make them even richer.
"The free market will fix it. Buying more guns will fix it. Electing a man with the communication skills and emotional regulation of a toddler will fix it. Murdering people based on the amount of melanin in their body will fix it".
Each one has already been tried and each one has failed to even dent the issue, because if they had any chance of succeeding then they would have banded together to undermine them in a bipartisan act of class solidarity.
And fuck, that's just the politics. The same insatiably greedy, neoliberal trash is also responsible for the impending climate breakdown, endless wars and unprecedented levels of unemoloyment and homelessness because no matter how much we give them, they just can't say "no" to profits.
We need to vote, but we also need so much more than voting. We need the entire world to unite in protest, demanding their governments either acknowledge the rights, freedoms and entitlements of every person on the planet, or be held accountable when they don't.
So it's not hard to see why people might get disillusioned when "maybe if we abuse minorities more, we'll be able to own homes again" still seems to be an idea people want to explore.
You are—tragically—100% percent correct in my opinion. That is as I also see, the reality we live in. The shortsighted Neoliberal imbéciles would choke to death on a dollar if they had to eat their way to a penny.
However.
Even though things will, to heavily understate, suck, I'd urge you to not fully give in to despair. Last time Fascism rose, it bit them in the ass and they backed the other horse eventually.
I am not looking forward to dodging (or liquidating) brown shirts and Nazis, so if we can avoid that and just be poised for when climate catastrophe puts on the knife-edge of "this has never happened before" that would be great.
Those with thoughts like yours will be needed. The Resistance will need leaders and scholars to delineate the purpose.
Reality sucks and we shouldn't have to fight for it because of thousands of greedy piggies, but it's manifesting and we'll have to decide.
We need to vote. We should all vote. Then start working on what we need beyond that in what little steps we all can. The literal morning after the election, preferably.
this is just not realistic to the situation of the average non-brainwashed american
It's ok, because he'll get a lot of foreigners killed, too.
I think he's just regressing to early childhood. I bet his KKK-associated dad played recordings of Hitler's speeches
He apparently reads Hitler's speeches in bed. Has a book of them on his nightstand.
I find this highly unlikely as I say Trump is barely literate.
It's ok cuz the book was given to him by a Jew. (It wasn't, but he said it was in an interview and it turns out that the gift-giver's name has "Gold" in it, so the Nazi-flavored Cheeto assumed he was a Jew)
Goldie Wilson III?
I don't even care if you made that up right now. I believe it lol
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-kept-hitler-speeches-by-his-bed-resurfaced-ivana-interview-reveals
Is there a larger treatment on Fred vs Donald?
Apologies for the American ignorance, but I don't understand what you mean by "treatment" in this context
I just mean like an episode or series on Fred Trump and his influence on Mr. Trump
Oh! Yea, the felon has frequently talked about how his dad was an inspiration and role model in multiple speeches. Take this with a grain of salt though, because I hate his fascist voice and haven't independently verified this
Mary's book?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_Much_and_Never_Enough
Ya that'll do!
Prior to eviction laws, Papa Trump would plan to tear down slum apartment buildings, but allow black families to move in. Then kick them all out the day of demolition, without warning. The Trumps and Kushners have all always been literal psychopaths.
Can Hitler’s estate sue him for copyright theft?
You joke but there's no Hitler's Estate. His progeny decided not to procreate and essentially all died out after WW2.
Holy shit so he didn't go back in time to kill Hitler, he went to the future and killed future Hitler.
That's why Trump is taking up the mantle
That sounds like a fun twist to some hilariously bad WW2 fan-fiction
Hitler had no 'progeny'. That word means descendants, not descendants of siblings or cousins. Well ignoring some completely unproved allegations about some children from affairs that is.
And there are still some living descendants of Hitler's siblings. His older half brother Alois had two kids, the younger died during the war and the elder, William, didn't get on with Uncle Hitler so moved to the UK before the war. He later moved to the US and joined the US Navy in 1944. He changed his surname to Stuart-Houston and had four children, one of which is dead but the other three are still alive and childless.
His older half sister Angela married Leo Raubal and had three kids. Two of them had a child each who are still alive. Dunno if either of those have any kids.
As to his estate it's a bit complicated, and I know it's reddit but askhistorians is a good place and there's a good overview of Hitler's estate here: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/9kv001/what_happened_to_hitlers_bank_account/e72gd8l/
Don't link reddit. There's no Hitler Estate.
"Five months after her death, the Federal Court in Berchtesgaden issued a certificate of inheritance in which Paula Hitler was awarded two-thirds of Hitler's estate.[2]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Hitler
Or is Wikipedia also not allowed?
Don't be a jackass. This isn't Reddit.
I do indeed joke.
Maybe Trump's family will follow the same lead.
They legally changed names
I said there's no Hitler estate.
It's just become really scary at this point, to be honest. The right have debased themselves so thoroughly, the only thing they have left is to actually elect this fucking psycho and be "right"
Humans tend to imitate those we idolize, don’t we?
No, invading Mexico.
Modification of Godwins Law:
As a speech of a populist (ex-)president grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
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