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School shooting in Europe: A tragedy

School shooting in America: A Tuesday

I was in Auckland, NZ when there was an active shooter in late July and the whole city was on alert. I was expecting an American style mass shooting based on the number of sirens I heard outside. When I found out it was a disgruntled employee who shot 2 coworkers I thought "Oh, that's just a Tuesday in America"

Yeah, except the Czech Republic will probably take meaningful steps to ensure it doesn't happen again

Considering they have a semi-2a already, doubt they will. And I hope they don't and get further pro-2a...russia is near.

WT actual F is a 2A? Sounds like a school class? Do we shoot it?

It's "murican" for the right to bear arms. Namely referring to the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

Somebody probably has shot it knowing this country.

Ah yes, that really old law. We have one in the UK like that, it says something like you can shoot a Scotsman in York on sight, but only with a bow and arrow or after midnight or something

But it's not enforced because it's an old law and, well, WE'RE NOT FUCKING STUPID 😂

Well, brexit.

Just stupid in different ways.

We can all be morons together. separately if you don't want to risk stray bullets from this side.

Since it's still on the books, could that be used as a legal defense? (Just curious, I'm neither in the UK nor wish to kill anyone with a bow and arrow after midnight)

Common law is based on precedent more than written law (code law), so the fact that no scottsman has been killed in over 100 years and used this law as a defence is proof enough that it isn't valid legislation.

No, you couldn't use it as a valid legal defense. There are a lot of old laws like this in the UK that, while technically on the books, have been replaced by more recent legislation.

No, common law is set in precident and there's no legal precident for it currently.

You're advocating to disregard any constitution that's too old?

At least update the fucker every few years...we won't even do that anymore.

One thing a lot of people are concerned about is the current state of politics, it's incredibly difficult to get that process going and once we open that can of worms you better believe that billionaire assholes that have already been trying to influence politics will have their favorite atrocious shit put into the constitution.

It's more like "let's legislate our issues first." If we have to change the constitution I'm pretty sure we're going to end up with an amendment that requires all citizens to buy Koch products, abolish the EPA and make those kinds of departments unconstitutional, or some other absurd nonsense.

r u stupid?

feel free to say no but ur case isnt looking good

Second amendment of the US constitution. It's text is:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

And what that means is up to "interpretation" and some think it means that everyone with no restrictions what so ever should be able to buy guns on a moments notice. Its the main reason why we have this problem state side.

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Fuck, just wait until they come up with a bump-stock-2A

Well, a special parliament meeting has been called already. Our constitution is quite malleable and I think most parties will agree on stricter gun laws. The gun was legally carried by the perpetrator after all, despite his mental instability and online posts suggesting he premeditated the act.

Also, I expect more training at schools: the killer killed his father first before heading to the faculty, and they had been warned. A partial evacuation was conducted but turned out to be ineffective.

Yep, your constitution is not like the USAs which requires a lot of support from 2/3rds of the states to be ratified.

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Oh wow!

Now we have a total of 40 school shootings in Europe ... since 1900.

The States do that in like what, two weeks?

I had to actually read an article to make sure it wasn't Prague, Wisconsin or some nonsense.

Prague WI definitely doesn't have a university. If I remember right Prague WI doesn't even have a gas station.

I just naturally assumed I'd misread and that it was something to do with PragerU.

I am Czech and I hate their name more than people calling us Eastern Europe. They have nothing to do with the prestigious Charles University or any other institution in Prague. Even worse, "Prager" roughly means "Prague (adj)" in German and possibly other languages.

Central Europe: a term invented by eastern European countries that don't like getting called eastern

We are at 15°E, which is the meridian of Central European Time. Our culture is way closer to Germans than Russians. And would you call Dresden Eastern Europe?

But yes, there is some divide so if you need to draw the line somewhere, it makes sense to split ethnically Slavic and Germanic countries so I see a reason behind that. There is no such justification for PragerU’s name choice.

The term western and eastern Europe have always been political, never geographical. This is why Czechia is eastern, because it used to be part of the socialist dictatorships. Another example: Russia is geographically European* but politically a fascist shithole.

* Inb4 Russia is also in Asia: yes, but none of the parts that actually matter for Russia culturally or economically

His online diary or manifesto whatever was already posted on 4chan, just on like Dec. 10 he was debating if he wanted to be a serial killer that kills one at a time or mass shooter. Long story short, he was going to do some fucked up shit no matter what.

Its not funny....

gal·lows hu·mor /ˈɡalōz ˈ(h)yo͞omər/ noun

grim and ironic humor in a desperate or hopeless situation.

I’m Czech and our culture prides itself in gallows humor.

Way to make the year's darkest day even darker!

Easy answer. Used too much. An especially weak argument when the one finding it "funny" is never from the area it's happening in, and thus doesn't actually have any emotional connection they're needing to cope with.

You know there are still a couple recordings floating around from people who had tried to call family and/or 911 prior to dying in 9/11? I've found anyone who listens to those seems to stop making the 9/11 jokes. Strikes me odd. Must have made it real.

I mean, I may not have any connection to Prague, but as an American citizen who has been shot at, I think I have enough of an emotional connection to gun violence. I still chuckled.

I studied at this university and work real close to it. Chuckled too.

I've listened to those recordings, and I still make 911 jokes. Reading the room and compartmentalization are things that go along with Gallows humour, but its generally accepted that the internet is a space where thick skin is needed, because its impossible to know the situation of literally every stranger who'll end up eying your comments

Good people joke to cope with the absurdity of our society's tolerance of it and our fellow citizens demanding it stay this way so they can selfishly keep their pew pews.

It happens all the time. We live in morbid times. The sane can cry about it, be numb to it, or laugh the absurdity of it, because we have no recourse to address it. The ignorant rugged individuals that don't want a society have spoken.

Shooting each other like dogs when we aren't exploiting eachother for private profit is who we are and I'm ashamed of it, would you rather people horrified of this reality find a coping mechanism to get through the day like dark humor, or just kill ourselves so as not to offend?

I'm worried that if I legit stopped laughing about it, I'd become a gun statistic myself.

Big /s on this one. No suicidal or homicidal ideations, but man, am I floored by kindergarten rhymes about lockdowns and having gotten 2 lockdown notifications from my 11-year-olds school in last month (neither were active shooters but when the message subject is just "lockdown' there's that moment where you just don't know)

We chose guns over them. I intend to tell my child that when they reach the age of reason. Some individuals like me did not, but overall society says that their ability to buy unlimited murder toys is more important than their life. That is what our society values. This is who we are.

I will tell them this because it is true, and they need to operate in the world as it is, not as I would like it to be. I will also tell them that is an example of how important it is NOT to allow what society believes to dictate what they believe, as most of what our society believes is cruel and exploitative, and I hope that's not who they want to be.

I am Czech and jokes about it are circulating already. We take pride in our dark humor, fostered during our perilous 20ᵗʰ century.

"You can accept that things are awful and still have a sense of humor about it." - Daniel Tosh

You need a sense of humor about things.

There's the quote,

Laugh to keep from crying