Judge threatens to boot Donald Trump from courtroom over loud talking as E. Jean Carroll testifies

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Judge threatens to boot Donald Trump from courtroom over loud talking as E. Jean Carroll testifies
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Don't kick him out, that's exactly what he wants.

F**KING ARREST HIM and charge him with contempt of court.

Judge doesn't need to charge him, he can just be found in Contempt & held.

Yep, I don't think I have the self control to be a judge. I think the maximum is 180 days and the very first time he uttered even a syllable off topic or without being asked a direct question his ass would be in for the maximum allowable amount of time.

I feel the same, but he's going to appeal and one of the arguments will be that the judge was biased against him. The judge tolerating more than would be expected torpedos that argument. So this is trying to make the result appeal-proof.

Judge: Mr. Trump, I hope I don’t have to consider excluding you from the trial. I understand you’re probably eager for me to do that.

Trump: I would love it

Judge: I know you would like it. You just can’t control yourself in this circumstance, apparently.

Trump (muttering): You can’t either.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is a real conversation had by someone who once was and is again running for president. What fucking weird timeline are we living in?

Trump just can't stand having to follow the same rules as everyone else.

Habba called the judge’s ruling “insanely prejudicial” and the judge soon afterward cut her off, saying he would “hear no further argument on it.”

Habba told the judge: “I will not be spoken to that way, your honor.” When she mentioned the funeral again, the judge responded: “It’s denied. Sit down. Bring in the jury.”

So... she would be spoken to that way.

What kind of ridiculous thing is that to say to a judge, anyway?

Yeah, one thing a judge can pretty much do without question is talk to you however the hell they damn well please.

If they are enough of an unreasonable asshole it can come up in appeal though.

I would imagine using language bigoted against a protected class would not help their decision stick.

What do you expect from the lawyer who befriended a sexual assault victim, convinced to to drop her existing lawyer for her, then had the victim sign an NDA and accept a pittance sum for suffering through years of sexual abuse. At one of Trump's golf courses.

Then turned around to Trump and said "look what I did for you". Which is how she got the current job.

As I said above, Habba is stupid. Trump-level stupid. He likes her because she has Melania's body type and I wouldn't be surprised if he was fucking her.

Oof... now I really hope she's getting paid up front.

I hope nobody who does anything for Trump gets paid at all.

Yes and no. Trump having less money, good, but people having an incentive to work for him, bad.

It's three-ring-circus clown riding a rodeo clown into a mime's balls (which are wearing a jester's cap) level ridiculous.

Hold this asshole in contempt and throw him in a cell until he agrees to behave. And when he doesn't, throw him back in for a month.

From the video:

"He didn't speak but he expressed himself through facial gestures and hand gestures. At one point, the judge asked if any of the prospective jurors thought Trump had been treated unfairly by the court system, and Trump sort of slyly raised his hand, prompting some laughter from the room."

  • Jake Offenhartz, Associated Press

i love how persnickety the courts get about decorum, it's so pretentious. is being somber and serious the reason you get to put people away for life?

No, it's because if you don't try to keep it somber and serious you end up with a shitshow and nothing gets done.

Mate, if the courtroom isn't the place to be somber, there would be no place to be somber. When one person accuses another of harming them, the parties who will be listening to their pleas and deciding on fates should be absolutely somber.

The atmosphere is intended to further respect for the institution of the court. You can be humorous if it's done in a respectful manner, though (depends on the judge and situation, too). Some attorneys get away with it. I filled a court with laughter one time while pleading guilty for this total bullshit public weed smoking ticket and the judge was nice to me.

Presidents should not be above the law!

They aren't. 45 just thinks he is.

Until actual consequences are enforced, he is.

Hopefully this is one of a dozen times this year that he finally gets real consequences.

I mean…they kind of are. Hasn’t that been proven over and over and over again?

"I'm granting your request to go to your mother in laws funeral. Don't come back."

He can go to her funeral, that's the ridiculous part. His attorney represents him in court, and anything he misses Thursday can be recounted to him on Friday.

Yep. It was just a delaying tactic by Habba. Who is stupid. So it didn't work. Because the judge is not stupid.

Just because a lawyer tries something that doesn't work doesn't mean they're stupid. They're being paid to try anything they can.

I'm not saying Habba isn't stupid, but this isn't the reason why.

Habba tries anything she can in stupid ways. Because she's stupid. And trying to delay a trial by saying Trump has to attend a funeral when Trump doesn't have to be at the trial is fucking stupid.

He also doesn't have to attend the funeral. He gets to choose, and the judge doesn't give a fuck what he chooses.

Sure, but I think claiming that you have to go to a funeral is a legitimate excuse to reschedule a court date. Just not when you don't have to be in court anyway.

This is the best summary I could come up with:


NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump was threatened with expulsion from his Manhattan civil trial Wednesday after he repeatedly ignored a warning to keep quiet while writer E. Jean Carroll testified that he shattered her reputation after she accused him of sexual abuse.

Earlier, without the jury in the courtroom, Trump could be seen slamming his hand on the defense table and uttering the word, “man,” when the judge again refused his lawyer’s request that the trial be suspended on Thursday so he could attend his mother-in-law’s funeral in Florida.

Carroll, 80, was the first witness in a Manhattan federal court trial to determine damages, if any, that Trump owes her for remarks he made while he was president in June 2019 as he vehemently denied ever attacking her or knowing her.

Carroll’s appearance, which continues Wednesday afternoon, was somewhat of a tight rope walk because of limitations the judge has posed on the trial in light of the previous verdict and prior rulings he’s made restricting the infusion of political talk into the proceedings.

She said that Trump’s vitriol toward her has not ceased, pointing to multiple social media posts he made about her in recent days, and that his rhetoric continues to inspire venom against her from strangers because she claimed he sexually abused her decades ago.

Carroll has maintained she lost millions of readers and her longtime post at Elle magazine, where her “Ask E. Jean” advice column ran for over a quarter-century, because of her allegations and Trump’s reaction to them.


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