Rule, nail in coffin

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I’m not tech expert in fact I’m quite dumb when it comes to tech.

BUT HOW DOES ONE MANAGE TO DDOS YOURSELF HOW CAN… I… WHAT

When the cringy rich dingus tells you to code something that is impossible to do with the current infrastructure and the timeframe but instead of explaining because you know he'll have a temper tantrum, you just do the best you can knowing it won't work but are already looking for other jobs so you don't actually care that much.

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this is so fucking funny, let me grab my popcorn as i watch all the corporate social media sites shit themselves

This website sure looks like it's fit to become the X everything app...

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Is this real??

I can't imagine it's hard to scroll past 600 posts in a day if you use twitter a lot.

So, once you're done your 600 posts, you'll go somewhere else where you can scroll endlessly, then slowly find yourself more and more going to that somewhere else instead of twitter. Elon twitler Musk is an idiot.

I never really used twitter, but if I used it like i use ANY other social media site, yeah. I would fill that up in like an hour..... and I use these sites all day long...

Oh, absolutely. It seriously discourages any kind of conversation, because no one will want to read through the replies and waste their content limit.

All attention will be skewed from heavily favoring big accounts to catering ONLY to big accounts, who may see a drop off in fan interaction for the same reason. People respond to celebrity accounts to gush and ask venue/content questions and such. This is the death knell to any of those questions ever being seen.

For myself, I used to follow a TON of microflashfic accounts, which by self-imposed rules are short, concise stories told in 140 characters or less. A bit like r/twosentencehorror but they tended to feel a lot more impactful.

I loved and miss them, and I consider it a lost art that I wish I could bring at least to mastodon. But because they fit in less than a single tweet by necessity, I could easily read through a hundred in 20 minutes if I just went through the tag.

Soon you will only have access to the post button 24 times a day. Elon gotta watch his limit.

Oh, Elon won’t have a limit. Elon Mode is a standard feature in Elon’s products.

If this man had any kind of limit placed on his twitter account he would get so physically ill that heroin withdrawal will look pleasant

Imagine making it harder to engage with your platform that depends on engagement to exist.

I wonder if Reddit is going to do this next...

I can see them making people log in to see the posts.

I can see Reddit limiting upvotes per day. Only 300 but "unlimited" with Reddit premium, etc

Reddit just loves going full Twitter

They already do that for NSFW posts, and they're inconsistent about it. Sometimes you just have to click "I'm over 18”, but mostly it asks you to log in

I think it's an old reddit vs new reddit thing, since I've always been able to skip past login on old reddit but never on new reddit

Stay tuned for when spez decides to delete that too

So paywall Twitter? Cool.

Even paying users have a rate limit. It's a ridiculous idea, especially financially.

Also could be that they are scaling down systems

Im just saying, he hasn't been paying bills and it's the first of the month.

Yeah. That feels more likely. Twitter has been running for years and likely isn’t a stranger to something like this.

Yeah something I thought since he was "forced" to buy twitter, was he would just burn it to the ground. What does he care?

Why would that affect these metrics?

Less servers able to serve requests means either get overloaded and have downtime, or rate limit and stay up.

Both are bad, but rate limiting is less bad.

I see, I guess at that scale API requests add up. I suppose it is a solution, and if replies don’t count, the limits are rather reasonable.

Yeah, exactly.

Also worth mentioning, the scale of Twitter also means that they have contractual obligations when it comes to uptime (for advertisers etc), so downtime could be very vostly indeed.

This will just kill the big accounts that generate a majority of the engagement

Okay, I might not have gotten the lingo yet: I see so many posts about "Rule" and I don't get it. Can someone ELI5?

The old subreddit had one rule: you had to make a post before leaving. People started just saying "rule" in the title as a joke about begrudgingly complying with the rule.

Duuuuuude thank you. I was kinda close going on context but it makes sense now!

Lol there's probably so many scrapers because he made the API so expensive

Gah, all you people in here are gonna have me jumping into mastodon before long...

This federated thing is pretty dang cool.

Managed to use up my limit in about 1 hour

He didn't actually say that, did he? That would be really stupid, even for him.

To Elon's credit (🤮) he did say temporary limits. Of course he lies constantly so who knows.

Then they’ll just do this sort of thing based on IP address and I’ll have to start yelling at my dad for looking at too many tweets

Daaaad, get off the phone twitter, i want to use the internet twitter.

"see? Despite limiting access we actually gained users"

And why the hell would you subscribe to a stupid billionaires Twitter and pay him even More money?

Image Transcription: Twitter Post


Elon Musk, @elonmusk

To address extreme levels of data scrapting & system manipulation, we've applied the following temporary limits:

 

- Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day

- Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day

- New unverified accounts to 300/day


This is a transcription template from r/TranscribersOfReddit, which is currently making their templates accessible outside of Reddit. I will update this post with a link to our templates once we have it all sorted. For now, you can access them through Reddit here! https://www.reddit.com/r/TranscribersOfReddit/wiki/guidelines/

Actually seems about right? Humans won't be doing more than that.

Aren't replies also considered tweets? Click on 1 popular tweet and it counts as 10+ tweets due to the replies automatically loading.

Reading posts? 600 would go by very quickly and 6000 could be scrolled through by a power user pretty easily which sucks for a paid account.

Each time a tweet enters your viewport, it's considered a view. If you have 10 tweets visible on your screen, that's 10 from your quota already.

Real talk, at this point it really just seems like a conscious effort at destroying the platform. Musk is definitely a fucking idiot, but there's no way even someone as unintelligent as he is would think this is a remotely "good" way to run a social media website.

I'm convinced now his goal was always to just destroy Twitter.

Honestly, I'm not convinced. I think he's just really that dumb. I showed it to someone else who works in IT and their reaction was that it sounded like a lot of management they've worked with: people who have no idea under god how anything works and refuse to listen to why their idea is functionally terrible. Even if you swear up and down it will ruin the entire product, they want it done now, because they want it.

That seems perfectly in line with the kind of moron I've heard he is.

I think you're dead on. Elon is trying to make Twitter work, but he doesn't understand it at all. He doesn't understand what they're commodifying, who their customers are, or why people use Twitter in the first place.

This is going to achieve Elon's goal but not for the reasons he thinks. It's going to continue making the site not worth scraping, no matter what the limits are. Rofl.

Can someone explain what is up with the constant "rule" thing in titles with people on this instance?

It's because it's an r/196 reboot.

r/196 used to be a subreddit with only one rule: that if you visited the subreddit, you had to post something before you left. Didn't matter what it was, but it's why their reiterations in the fediverse seem to much more active than anywhere else.

Whether adding "rule" to the title was a part of it, idk, but I think that part's just a meme habit

This is off topic for this post but the community 196 has a rule that if you visit it you must post. Thus the posts with the title "rule".

Oops I destroyed one of the most media integrated forms of free speech. Dang what a mistake on my part.

I reckon this is because of AI datasets, same with reddit. Suddenly having millions of authentic conversations logged is very valuble to companies training Large Laungage Models and the last thing these people want is that value being taken from them.