James Carville: ‘Too many preachy females’ are ‘dominating the culture of the Democratic Party’

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Carville: ‘Too many preachy females’ are ‘dominating the culture of the Democratic Party’
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... Everything you’re doing is destroying the planet. You’ve got to eat your peas.

Dude is in his 70s and still acts like his mom is literally Satan for saying he has to eat his peas. That's some real snowflake shit.

Not only that, he's from the south and he's never heard of pea salad?

I’m from the south and haven’t heard of whatever that monstrosity is either tbf.

Pea salad sounds like some midwest bullshit.

Full quote. Yikes.

“A suspicion of mine is that there are too many preachy females … ‘Don’t drink beer, don’t watch football, don’t eat hamburgers, this is not good for you,'” he said. “The message is too feminine: ‘Everything you’re doing is destroying the planet. You’ve got to eat your peas.'”

Who the fuck is telling him this shit? I feel like he's sitting in his room scripting whatever will cause him the most outrage because no one embedded in normal society is getting told this shit.

Also, James Carville should eat his goddamn peas, he looks like a fucking zombie. Like if the Crypt Keeper's dad died and was dug up 70 years from now and then offered some peas.

Are we sure he’s not talking about his care facility nurse whose reminding him to eat healthier?

It's not entirely wrong. Biden is losing to one of the worst humans to ever live...top 1000 out of 20 bn or so.

The D's need to take a hard look at why.

Just saying Yuk isn't going to get Biden elected.

Ah... He's totally wrong and what you said had literally nothing to do with it

well, I think the shitty thing about Carville's take is that he's directing blame to people who are likely doing good things rather than highlighting the actual problems and what solutions could look like. If you've gotta meet the electorate where they are, then find out where, don't presume that you (ie Carville) are in the same place, and go from there. Nebulously blaming a bunch of people is likely just a vague reactive take on what's obvious (that Trump resonates with a good deal of Americans) rather than anything helpful.

The D’s need to take a hard look at why.

  • Centrists like Biden and this guy support genocide in gaza,

  • Biden et al just ran so far right on border security and immigration the far right is trying to figure out what else they can ask for besides machine gun turrets and pillboxes.

  • While its "recovering"... most americans are still hurting. pitching the economy as "fixed" isn't helping him.

  • He's courting Nikki Hailey voters who are never actually going to support any one whose not a republican; flashing a giant birdie to even moderately progressive democrats.

And all that's true...

Like how bad do we hate gaza? Do we kill them slowly or with nukes.

How bad do we hate immigrants? Do we starve them at the boarder or cut them up with razors and drown them?

How many fucking hand outs can we give? The middle class is simply fucked with either choice. I get to pay for Musk or petty crime.

The Haily comment is spot on.

Sounds like another whiney ass boomer that is pissed a woman is talking.

Sounds like the cornerstone of the centrist movement once again triangulating between the worst of the Republican party and the meekest Democrat. I don't know why anyone expected him to stop.

I hate this little worm. Bring on the 'PREACHY FEMALE' shirts!

And please, may I have a “I support “PREACHY FEMALES” shirt?

Projection.

Carville is the preachiest bitch of them all.

Can't wait for history to be rid of his FILTH.

The only problem with the Democratic Party is that not only is it run by geriatrics who are out of touch, all their advisors are also geriatrics who are out of touch.

I mean, when people say “both parties are the same” they are correct in this particular metric. We need term limits and younger representation.

"Grumpy old man yells at the sky."

What the fuck

Before he said something weird on a podcast a few weeks ago, I hadn't thought about James Carville since 32 years ago when he was active in politics in a nontrivial capacity. But now that I take a look at him again I am impressed by the strangeness of him. Among other things, he came out swinging against Barack Obama as a presidential candidate and attacked people who supported him, he wanted to "jettison" the Democratic primaries and caucuses and let Nancy Pelosi pick all the candidates, and his international résumé is interesting reading. He's just an all-around very weird guy it sounds like.

Just another lead addled boomer. They will be the death of us all.

he wanted to “jettison” the Democratic primaries and caucuses and let Nancy Pelosi pick all the candidates

Yes, James Carville is a centrist Democrat.

Yeah. It's actually pretty instructive to look at his example to see how far the party has moved left since Clinton. He used to be squarely in the mainstream of Democratic politics, then he was shocked and outraged by Obama (and showed for whatever reason an unerring instinct to gravitate to the worst candidates available, Pelosi and Hilary being two good examples), and now Biden's doing a bunch of things that would have been unthinkable even for Obama, so a one-time Democratic king maker is now on the far outskirts raging against the whole dominant culture of the Democratic party as it currently exists.

Carville doesn't want primaries because he's a centrist Democrat. Neat deflection.

Well, this a great example for the ESL guy wondering if "Females" is offensive.

Not generally, although "preachy" is. Saying females or women are mostly interchangeable, although using females in this case is an odd choice as there's no real reason to pick that specific word. Generally you'd use female in a scientific or medical context where the biology in question is relevant (E.G. when talking about disease statistics or similar). Saying women would be a bit more inclusive but since he's being an asshole anyway not sure a little extra inclusivity is going to make any difference.

Well, here he's clearly using "Females" to be exclusive and offensive, demonstrating that the term does, in fact, have that potential, is my point.

It is kinda nice when trying to figure out other cultures' taboos, that you can get something as cut and dry as "this word or concept can show up in a news article when politicians misuse it."
Kinda intimidating, but also a useful frame of reference, because then there's post like yours which specify that its context-specific.

It can be really frustrating when you spend years tiptoeing around something, only to find out that the person you learned it from just had weird personal hangups or something.

Yeah at a fundamental language level every word has implications. Any given word is less one specific meaning than it is one or more primary meanings with a whole constellation of associated concepts. Picking to use a specific word means one thing but its associated concepts also shade the surrounding words and sentence. The word "female" is not offensive any more than a word like "red" would be, but it carries a clinical connotation as well as being problematic with regards to trans people and the trans movement in general. Depending on how it's used it could offend someone, but with the right tone or context so could asking someone "How old are you?". So it's wrong to say in absolute sense that "female" is offensive, but like many words it can be used in an offensive manner.

Generally speaking, using "females" instead of "women" is seen by women as an indicator you the guy understands them as little as if they were a whole different species. The Ferengi accent is palpable.

(Saying "female" as an adjective about women, especially in a scientific context, doesn't have that connotation.)

Adding to that. Most papers refer to their population as x amount of mem and women age bla bla. Females isn't often used to describe humans. It's just the internet trying to sound smart.

Looks like I'll be the first to say it...

Is he OK? Seriously, has anyone checked in on him and made sure he's not, you know, stuck in a chair somewhere?

I'd be worried he had a stroke or something...

It's Carville, so I don't know if he's off his meds and letting his inner misogynist ooze out, or if he's doing a desperate edgelord imitation to attempt to escape obsolescence.

How amusing. A preachy male is trying dominate a culture with no point other than complaining that women talked about issues. WTF is the call to action supposed to be here, just steam and be a fucking baby like this man?

And just like that, centrists have to pretend that they don't still love James Carville.

Oh look, another "political strategist" who literally looks like a reanimated corpse talking shit.

I've always hated this asshat. He's always seemed like a guy trying to run a football game instead of having a platform based in policy.

He never spends his time on TV talking about an issue that matters. It's just whatever bullshit talking point of the day on the news which will be promptly forgotten about the next. He's Newt Gingrich dressed blue... Okay, maybe not the satan shitpile Newt Gingrich is, but I hate when people are dying and windbags like this are going on about Iowa straw polls.

Who gives a damn what Puskatawnee Phil says about the election; our future generation is fucked if we dont nail down climate change, the economy which is based on exponential growth and the whole slavery thing thats still alive and well and everyone is worse off for it...

Hell, child labor laws are being repealed and women are being jailed for having a miscarriage. But tell me again how so-and-so shoulda spent more time campaigning in that county because its a purple county in a swing state instead of, I dunno doing what won Bill Clinton the Election... Carville's one big win. He talked about the economy and healthcare after Bush Senior had trashed it by sending us to war in Iraq to try to clean up the mess he made when he was head of the CIA... I hate politics

It’s fucking James Carville. What did you think the thought?

His episode on 30 Rock was hilarious though.

Remember, Democrats are just right wingers that use subversion to get votes. They’re not the left. They’re less vitriolic conservatives.

The left wants UBI and Medicare for all.

Carville is a dumb shit asshole who doesn’t need any platform yet my low key racist democrat obese never did anything but complain aunts keep him paid.

Same with that other cock holster Bill Maher.