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Over 80 Percent Of Texas Women Don't Know How Bad Their State's Abortion Laws Are
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Obligatory “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”

https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/

Exactly. "I thought -I- would be allowed to get an abortion when I needed to, because I'm not evil or poor like the babykillers I talk about in church. I'm a good person - it's just a baby would ruin my life (usually = disclose my cheating/premarital sex/be inconvenient) so it's different." It's the classic "rules for thee but not for me" of extremists.

Given that abortion has been banned in the state for two years, one would think people would be aware that, well, abortion has been banned in the state for two years — but 73 percent of those surveyed incorrectly believed that abortions were still available at abortion clinics in the state. Twenty-one percent believed that people were still regularly getting abortions at those clinics.

Goddamn. Maybe those republiQan women weren't evil, just ignorant as hell?

I've said this plenty and people tend to agree with me even if their first reaction is to fight me on it, conservative women are some of the most if not the most stupid people in the US. At least conservative men have something to gain by voting the way they do, but conservative women literally vote to get their own rights taken away.

I don't even say this trying to be mean, I wish they got what they deserved and by that I mean healthcare, education and whatever social program they needed to be happy and safe. Unfortunately they constantly vote against me wanting the best for them.

They need to all be sat down and forced to watch The Handmaid's tale, with a constant reminder they won't be one of the rich wives.

Unfortunately some of them want it. Check out trad wives, it's sad.

Meh, that's the thing about choice. If they and their partner want to live that way they can choose to do so, as long as they aren't trying to force others to also live that way.

I get it and agree with you but these are also the type of people who want everyone to go back to that and go out of their way to insult people who don't live that lifestyle.

One of the big points was that even the rich wives had a horrendous life. Indeed, even the men.

Serena Joy hated her situation, did she not?

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There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.

Greg Abbot is a little piss baby.

Sounds like a direct quote from George W Bush, which is a fucked up version of the original idiom: "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

To his credit, he realized on the fly that if he said “shame on me,” it would be on The Daily Show that evening.

People like to laugh at that quote but it's about as good of a fumble recovery as anyone could have done in that situation. Dubya was no fool, despite his "bumbling everyman" persona.

He's the Boris Johnson of America, if the brits need a translation.

Maybe, but it would've been joked about once and been done, whereas his wrong quote in fact was on The Daily Show that night AND we're still talking about how dumb he sounded 20+ years later. Typical con behavior really-- doing something in the moment that only other cons think is the better choice but really fucks things up for decades.

See, I disagree here, I like to believe there would have been a “shame on me” rap produced from it.

I guess that's a possibility, but would it still be getting plays 20 years later? Why would that one phrase be so bad compared to all the other dumb shit he said? There were compilations of his idiotic quotes and people barely make specific references to those now anyway, partly because it's been so long and partly because his dumbassery has been overshadowed by the more recent GOP fascism.

When they vote with their middle fingers stuffed in their ears I’m not sure what they thought was going to happen. They got exactly what they wanted.

This sounds like a failure on Democrats to get information out.

Yes, we all know Republicans like to keep people ignorant, but this should be a slam dunk informational campaign for the Democrats: "here is a case where a woman needed and really should have been given an abortion. She was denied. Here is where you can find the court case."

I'm certain the Democrats have purposely put off abortion rights and housing prices so they can promise something for the next election. I don't even think Biden has really talked about abortion in any meaningful way between his election and last March.

This sounds like a failure on Democrats to get information out.

Actually, yes! I haven't even read the rest of your comment yet.

God damn the DNC needs to go harder.

Too many Democrats still think their copilot is a rational actor and not a coked out gorilla. Reaching across the aisle hasn't been an option for at least a decade but the democrats want to just act like the coked out gorilla holding the other yoke is willing to go back to a pre-Reagan era of collaborative legislation. We need to vote the republican party out of relevance, and then vote the apologist democrats out if relevance to so we can get some actual election reform

That's only gonna happen if you can get leftists to vote in local elections and primaries instead of getting pissed at moderates for picking the wrong candidate and opting out of the system. Conservatives are pretty awful, but every election plays out the same...all those complaining and claiming never-Trump status will all fall in line before November. Yeah, it makes a lot of them look spineless, but you can't argue that they haven't pulled their party in the direction they wanted.

100%, and I see SO MANY pissy high brow leftists working against their own best interests here on Lemmy. We need to show democrats that we have the voting power to stop the parade of neo liberals in big elections when the average democrat voter is social liberal (and the non-participant would be voters and third party voters are even more socially oriented than that)

I'm all for blaming Dems for being ineffectual cowards but this is one topic they have been very happy to shout about. As the artice points out, the media does not have to report it:

There’s also the fact that we have a very divided media and the media a lot of people get — and, more importantly, trust — does not tell them about things like this.

Then they have been shouting about it in the wrong places if 80% of Republican supporting women have no idea. Run some ads in more visible spaces.

And yet most will keep voting Republican and then complain when they become handmaids…

Because they don't even know it's a problem. That is the conclusion of the survey. I feel like this is a prime opportunity for an information campaign:
"This woman has an entropic pregnancy"
Clip of a doctor briefly explaining what an entropic pregnancy is and how they are always unviable.
"She was denied an abortion in Texas and would have died if she did not go to a different state that still allows abortions. Here is where you can read the court case."

This isn’t exactly surprising. With over 60% of Americans busting ass at multiple low paying jobs just to scrape by living paycheck to paycheck, many don’t have time to stay informed on political developments, even major ones such as this.

Their thinking (or lack thereof) is the flaw. That's how you arrive here.

Is there a reason that the ‘do no evil’ is always dropped from the 4?

The 3 shown are part of evil; the ones who "don't see it, don't speak of it, don't hear of it." They are the banility of evil, the enablers.

I've never heard of a 4th accompanying the 3. It seems to me that they would not travel together.

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This is what happens when Democrats fail to get the word out