As a combination back- and side-sleeper, I've been considering trying to strap foam blocks to the side of my head so I can always get the right amount of support regardless of position.
Exactly what I'm looking for! I'ld like back sleeping but with a slightly tilted, side supported head. Lean head all the way = neck pain. Head straight = can't fall asleep. I've tried stuff with backsleeping+ side support for leaning the head, but the extra pillow on the head side isn't strong enough (doesn't last) and it all gets too hot around the head.
The innovative butterfly shape of the purafly, with a dip and hole, provides excellent support for the head and neck.
Additionally, the pillow is wedge-shaped and has two different heights. Side and especially back sleepers find the rest they need.
This fails to mention how he made it so that the side you're laying on is never the cool side.
I don't get how people use so many pillows. I like a single, somewhat flat pillow. Anything too fluffy or more than one pillow is just way too tall and would make my neck bend. Do you multi-pillow people sleep partially sitting up or something? I sleep on my side or stomach.
You sleep on your side and stomach and use the same amount of pillow for both?? Stomach definitely needs the least amount of cushion, except for people who use no pillow I guess. And side sleeping has an entire shoulder's width of support to make up for. Totally different positions, you need an arsenal of pillows to really dial in the ergonomics.
I sleep on my side and a thin pillow would make my head bend down. I need a thick pillow for my neck to be straight. Shredded memory foam gang whazzup
Side sleep, I want neutral neck angle
Sometimes i do as it helps with my hearburn
Having one between the legs helps the back. In addition to what others have said.
Reading the comments is making me feel like a psychopath. I guess I'm the only one who occasionally uses no pillows because one can be too much for me
Yeah you're definitely a psychopath. My neck would be absolutely killing me without a pillow.
Are you a back sleeper or someone who sleeps on their arm? If I get in my side sleeping position without a pillow my ear isn't even touching the ground.
I usually sleep on my back but if I sleep on my side I always use a pillow. I have a pretty big head so if I'm lying flat with no pillow my neck is straight and not bending backwards
But you must rest your head somehow if you lie on your side? Or are your shoulders 1cm broad?
I think I sleep more often with a pillow on top of my head or hip than actually using the pillow as intended. If you need head/neck support, the comforter is better suited for the job as you can fold it to the right shape.
I sometimes prefer not to have any pillow when I'm sleeping on my stomach.
This pillow right here. You can smush it into different shapes and it mostly stays. I’ve made a little crater in the middle for my back sleeping, then I can roll onto the taller ends when I sleep on my side.
Birch, I ain't paying over $100 for a freaking pillow. There's gotta be a more affordable way.
100 seems like a lot for just a pillow. However, you use it every night and it helps you waking up without back or neck pain. So, investing 100 dollars into something you use 1/3 of every day seems like it's basically nothing. My pillow costed almost 200 euros, my matrass was 1800. I've had it for 10 years, so it costed me 2000/3650= ~0.548 per night, 7 to 8 hours per day. Almost 55 cents for proper back and neck support, so I don't wake up stiff and sour. The longer I use it, the cheaper it becomes, but I think in a year or two I'll buy a new set so I'll be sleeping like a princess for another 10 to 12 years.
Plot twist: learning to sleep without a pillow is even better for your back and neck. So, there's your cheap option.
I had to save up for it, but I’ve always slept poorly and wanted to go all in on the new bedding. Maybe I’m crazy, but I think it was worth the money.
Oh no I was afraid you would suggest that. I have that pillow and it's awful. It has the exact issue that this meme is about.
To each their own. Me and my wife likes it. Sleep like a baby
lol guess I'm buying the $110 pillow, then.
You don't need to pay quite that much to get one, but investing in a nice, expensive pillow really upgraded my sleep quality dramatically. I won't even let my houseguests use cheap pillows anymore. The difference is just too dramatic.
That comforter looks even better than the pillow.
Can’t speak to the Birch comforter’s quality, but recently I got my first set of really nice sheets too. If you’re patient, you can find some Frette sheets for surprisingly cheap on one of their sales.
High quality sheets are one of those great luxuries that isn't remotely necessary but is so, so nice to have. Especially on a hot summer night. In my experience, they don't last nearly as long as cheap sheets, but if you can afford them, it's worth it. I'll definitely check out Frette.
rare body pillow W
My pillow came with 3 mini pillows that you insert on the middle of the pillow to regulate the height.
Casper's standard pillow works like this. You can also use them separately to have a light and medium pillow.
Just note from my experience, that using the full firmness (pillow in a pillow) can give you a really stiff neck in the morning/day.
I have two pillows stuffed in one pillowcase. Double pillow. 2-in1 comfort and self defense.
Everyone should get a high quality miniature/toddler pillow. There is always a small spot in the head or neck area which can be improved with a little bit of squishy pillow and these are perfect for that. They're also perfect for putting on top of another pillow which isn't quite tall enough but almost.
You should also get good pillows, but the tiny pillow is still nice to have.
one ikea shark pillow works well for me
I wish you play baby shark as white noise to sleep
it’s for the sharks more than me rly
Idk man, I just have a good pillow that's big AF so that when I'm sideways it fits well and when I look up it compresses.
If you need more space maybe buy a bigger or a sturdier one (so you compress it less)
Replace "inventor" with "Hilton" and you have a home run
The Hilton of pillows
1 pillow for your head, 1 pillow for your chest. Perfect sleep.
And one pillow for your back. Extra cozy and you're ready to roll over.
I make a nice gentle curved slope with three pillows. Layering them offset to each other, with the back one being both the thickest and close to being vertical and the front one, also the thinnest being closer to horizontal.
My head probably isn't even over the first pillow, but it allows the getting two to be at a more comfy angle.
Buckwheat pillow, holds it's shape well and you can flatten it out or bring it back together to adjust the thickness, big downside though you kind of have to mold your head into it when you go to bed, really just boils down to adjusting the thickness, laying on it, and rocking your head back and forth on it a couple times to shape it. They dont fold well but I feel they don't need to.
They're especially wonderful for back sleeping.
I just wonder how they make one side colder than the other.
I have 2 pillows, one big and one small
I got one of those Purple Pillows. Felt like an ass spending $100 on a pillow, but I was flush and my neck hurt.
It's great on the bottom and seems like it'll last the rest of my life. Doesn't crush or absorb smells, water hose will clean it off.
OTOH, it's too low for a single pillow, but I still dig it.
I’m fascinated as to why “not absorbing smells” and the ability to be hosed down were major selling points to you.
LOL, ya got me.
Seriously, washing pillows often jacks them up into scrunched up balls. Also, ever smelled a pillow after it gets old? Not much you can do to renew it. A rubber pillow isn't going to have issues like cloth. Just change the pillow case regularly.
It's great on the bottom and seems like it'll last the rest of my life.
No pillow is going to last 10years. Your brand recommends changing every 2-4 years depending on the type, of course they are biased to make that number lower, but you still are going to be hurting yourself if you leave it too long. If you wake up with a stuffy nose every morning that could be your pillow for instance.
If longevity is your biggest concern I would recommend something like a buckwheat pillow, when it ages out you can just replace the stuffing for cheap and the waste buckwheat is fully biodegradable. I love mine!
Get a quality bamboo pillow with crushed memory foam filling. You can control how much fill goes into the pillow, and if you change your mind you can always add or remove some of the fill.
I found some cheapo "side sleeper" memory foam pillow on Amazon and put a normal (but also old and compacted) pillow on top and that works surprisingly well for me.
That's why I like memory foam pillows.
Big pillow
Latex pillow. They do NOT lose shape/consistency at all. Trust me, I bought a latex pillow and I pretty much always use the latex pillow now. I use the larger memory foam pillow when I want a harder/thicker pillow, but otherwise I prefer the latex pillow since I don't have to worry about constantly fluffing it up or anything. I still flip it around sometimes to get to the cold side of course, but not as much for other pillows. Some people want "ergonomically-shaped" pillows, which have a bump for neck/spine support, and those kinds of latex pillows exist too.
A lot of people swear by millet pillows and buckwheat pillows (and other hull-filled/non-synthetic pillows) too. What I can say about them is they're firm and heavy (buckwheat pillows are harder and millet pillows are softer), they stay cold, they have a strong smell, and they whisper statistics into your ear when you're trying to sleep (they're very noisy, especially ones using a less soft/less stretchy fabric like canvas or sateen). They're probably better if you want more neck support. People like PineTales pillows, especially side-sleepers (I've never tried them though).
The best praise I've seen a pillow brand get though is Purple pillows, again from side-sleepers, but they're $100-200 and I haven't tried one. I don't particularly want to finance a pillow.
Every time I have to use a typical pillow I'm like "wow this fucking sucks" and I have to fiddle with the pillow constantly because it loses its shape/firmness after a few minutes and stops feeling comfortable. Not something that happens with good latex pillows, and it's less of a problem with memory foam & hull-filled pillows than in other pillows.
Years ago my husband bought a random pillow from Amazon. I liked it so much I also bought one, but I guess it was a different manufacturer and I hated it. He's not fussy so we swapped, and I swear to god this is the best pillow I've ever used. It was like $23 and the link is broken now.
As a combination back- and side-sleeper, I've been considering trying to strap foam blocks to the side of my head so I can always get the right amount of support regardless of position.
Exactly what I'm looking for! I'ld like back sleeping but with a slightly tilted, side supported head. Lean head all the way = neck pain. Head straight = can't fall asleep. I've tried stuff with backsleeping+ side support for leaning the head, but the extra pillow on the head side isn't strong enough (doesn't last) and it all gets too hot around the head.
https://aks-pura.de/purawell_purafly.html
You wouldn’t
a pillow
What’s that hole for 😏 (nose?)
This fails to mention how he made it so that the side you're laying on is never the cool side.
I don't get how people use so many pillows. I like a single, somewhat flat pillow. Anything too fluffy or more than one pillow is just way too tall and would make my neck bend. Do you multi-pillow people sleep partially sitting up or something? I sleep on my side or stomach.
You sleep on your side and stomach and use the same amount of pillow for both?? Stomach definitely needs the least amount of cushion, except for people who use no pillow I guess. And side sleeping has an entire shoulder's width of support to make up for. Totally different positions, you need an arsenal of pillows to really dial in the ergonomics.
I sleep on my side and a thin pillow would make my head bend down. I need a thick pillow for my neck to be straight. Shredded memory foam gang whazzup
Side sleep, I want neutral neck angle
Sometimes i do as it helps with my hearburn
Having one between the legs helps the back. In addition to what others have said.
Reading the comments is making me feel like a psychopath. I guess I'm the only one who occasionally uses no pillows because one can be too much for me
Yeah you're definitely a psychopath. My neck would be absolutely killing me without a pillow.
Are you a back sleeper or someone who sleeps on their arm? If I get in my side sleeping position without a pillow my ear isn't even touching the ground.
I usually sleep on my back but if I sleep on my side I always use a pillow. I have a pretty big head so if I'm lying flat with no pillow my neck is straight and not bending backwards
But you must rest your head somehow if you lie on your side? Or are your shoulders 1cm broad?
I think I sleep more often with a pillow on top of my head or hip than actually using the pillow as intended. If you need head/neck support, the comforter is better suited for the job as you can fold it to the right shape.
I sometimes prefer not to have any pillow when I'm sleeping on my stomach.
Me with three pillows just for my neck anyway:
pillows come in different sizes.
https://birchliving.com/products/organic-pillow
This pillow right here. You can smush it into different shapes and it mostly stays. I’ve made a little crater in the middle for my back sleeping, then I can roll onto the taller ends when I sleep on my side.
Birch, I ain't paying over $100 for a freaking pillow. There's gotta be a more affordable way.
100 seems like a lot for just a pillow. However, you use it every night and it helps you waking up without back or neck pain. So, investing 100 dollars into something you use 1/3 of every day seems like it's basically nothing. My pillow costed almost 200 euros, my matrass was 1800. I've had it for 10 years, so it costed me 2000/3650= ~0.548 per night, 7 to 8 hours per day. Almost 55 cents for proper back and neck support, so I don't wake up stiff and sour. The longer I use it, the cheaper it becomes, but I think in a year or two I'll buy a new set so I'll be sleeping like a princess for another 10 to 12 years.
Plot twist: learning to sleep without a pillow is even better for your back and neck. So, there's your cheap option.
I had to save up for it, but I’ve always slept poorly and wanted to go all in on the new bedding. Maybe I’m crazy, but I think it was worth the money.
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/klubbsporre-ergonomic-pillow-side-back-sleeper-80446101/
I use this one. It's pretty great I think
Oh no I was afraid you would suggest that. I have that pillow and it's awful. It has the exact issue that this meme is about.
To each their own. Me and my wife likes it. Sleep like a baby
lol guess I'm buying the $110 pillow, then.
You don't need to pay quite that much to get one, but investing in a nice, expensive pillow really upgraded my sleep quality dramatically. I won't even let my houseguests use cheap pillows anymore. The difference is just too dramatic.
That comforter looks even better than the pillow.
Can’t speak to the Birch comforter’s quality, but recently I got my first set of really nice sheets too. If you’re patient, you can find some Frette sheets for surprisingly cheap on one of their sales.
High quality sheets are one of those great luxuries that isn't remotely necessary but is so, so nice to have. Especially on a hot summer night. In my experience, they don't last nearly as long as cheap sheets, but if you can afford them, it's worth it. I'll definitely check out Frette.
rare body pillow W
My pillow came with 3 mini pillows that you insert on the middle of the pillow to regulate the height.
Casper's standard pillow works like this. You can also use them separately to have a light and medium pillow.
Just note from my experience, that using the full firmness (pillow in a pillow) can give you a really stiff neck in the morning/day.
I have two pillows stuffed in one pillowcase. Double pillow. 2-in1 comfort and self defense.
Everyone should get a high quality miniature/toddler pillow. There is always a small spot in the head or neck area which can be improved with a little bit of squishy pillow and these are perfect for that. They're also perfect for putting on top of another pillow which isn't quite tall enough but almost.
You should also get good pillows, but the tiny pillow is still nice to have.
one ikea shark pillow works well for me
I wish you play baby shark as white noise to sleep
it’s for the sharks more than me rly
Idk man, I just have a good pillow that's big AF so that when I'm sideways it fits well and when I look up it compresses.
If you need more space maybe buy a bigger or a sturdier one (so you compress it less)
Replace "inventor" with "Hilton" and you have a home run
The Hilton of pillows
1 pillow for your head, 1 pillow for your chest. Perfect sleep.
And one pillow for your back. Extra cozy and you're ready to roll over.
I make a nice gentle curved slope with three pillows. Layering them offset to each other, with the back one being both the thickest and close to being vertical and the front one, also the thinnest being closer to horizontal.
My head probably isn't even over the first pillow, but it allows the getting two to be at a more comfy angle.
Buckwheat pillow, holds it's shape well and you can flatten it out or bring it back together to adjust the thickness, big downside though you kind of have to mold your head into it when you go to bed, really just boils down to adjusting the thickness, laying on it, and rocking your head back and forth on it a couple times to shape it. They dont fold well but I feel they don't need to.
They're especially wonderful for back sleeping.
I just wonder how they make one side colder than the other.
I have 2 pillows, one big and one small
I got one of those Purple Pillows. Felt like an ass spending $100 on a pillow, but I was flush and my neck hurt.
It's great on the bottom and seems like it'll last the rest of my life. Doesn't crush or absorb smells, water hose will clean it off.
OTOH, it's too low for a single pillow, but I still dig it.
I’m fascinated as to why “not absorbing smells” and the ability to be hosed down were major selling points to you.
LOL, ya got me.
Seriously, washing pillows often jacks them up into scrunched up balls. Also, ever smelled a pillow after it gets old? Not much you can do to renew it. A rubber pillow isn't going to have issues like cloth. Just change the pillow case regularly.
No pillow is going to last 10years. Your brand recommends changing every 2-4 years depending on the type, of course they are biased to make that number lower, but you still are going to be hurting yourself if you leave it too long. If you wake up with a stuffy nose every morning that could be your pillow for instance.
If longevity is your biggest concern I would recommend something like a buckwheat pillow, when it ages out you can just replace the stuffing for cheap and the waste buckwheat is fully biodegradable. I love mine!
Get a quality bamboo pillow with crushed memory foam filling. You can control how much fill goes into the pillow, and if you change your mind you can always add or remove some of the fill.
I found some cheapo "side sleeper" memory foam pillow on Amazon and put a normal (but also old and compacted) pillow on top and that works surprisingly well for me.
That's why I like memory foam pillows.
Big pillow
Latex pillow. They do NOT lose shape/consistency at all. Trust me, I bought a latex pillow and I pretty much always use the latex pillow now. I use the larger memory foam pillow when I want a harder/thicker pillow, but otherwise I prefer the latex pillow since I don't have to worry about constantly fluffing it up or anything. I still flip it around sometimes to get to the cold side of course, but not as much for other pillows. Some people want "ergonomically-shaped" pillows, which have a bump for neck/spine support, and those kinds of latex pillows exist too.
A lot of people swear by millet pillows and buckwheat pillows (and other hull-filled/non-synthetic pillows) too. What I can say about them is they're firm and heavy (buckwheat pillows are harder and millet pillows are softer), they stay cold, they have a strong smell, and they whisper statistics into your ear when you're trying to sleep (they're very noisy, especially ones using a less soft/less stretchy fabric like canvas or sateen). They're probably better if you want more neck support. People like PineTales pillows, especially side-sleepers (I've never tried them though).
The best praise I've seen a pillow brand get though is Purple pillows, again from side-sleepers, but they're $100-200 and I haven't tried one. I don't particularly want to finance a pillow.
Every time I have to use a typical pillow I'm like "wow this fucking sucks" and I have to fiddle with the pillow constantly because it loses its shape/firmness after a few minutes and stops feeling comfortable. Not something that happens with good latex pillows, and it's less of a problem with memory foam & hull-filled pillows than in other pillows.
Years ago my husband bought a random pillow from Amazon. I liked it so much I also bought one, but I guess it was a different manufacturer and I hated it. He's not fussy so we swapped, and I swear to god this is the best pillow I've ever used. It was like $23 and the link is broken now.