Trump says he is willing to debate Harris multiple times

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Trump says he is willing to debate Harris multiple times
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Translation: Donnie is terrified and he will use some excuse to weasel his way out of a debate.

Yup. The whole thing is playing out like a 4th. grade argument.

Yesterday he didn't want to do it. Today he will totally do it. Tomorrow he will be prevented from doing it. Next week he will already have done it while you were on holiday, yeah it happened in that town you probably never heard of.

It's literally the southpark episode when Wendy wants to fight Cartman for making fun of breast cancer. And he goes up to her in private over and over and is like "Wendy? I'm really really sorry, I won't do it again." But as soon as anyone else is around he thumps his chest and calls her a bitch.

He will book it at 4 Seasons Garden Center again. 🤣

Still my unchallenged #1 favourite event of the entire Trump trainwreck saga.

Poor old Rudy still hasn't even been paid for that nugget, and he lost his law license. The thanks a guy gets for supporting a wannabe dictator, smh.

The longer she doesn't address it, the freakier he will get!

“I want to debate her and she’ll be no different because they have the same policies,” Trump said.

Lmao, good luck asshole.

A former prosecutor and attorney general against a compulsive liar and grifter who can barely manage a coherent sentence? Yes please.

He thinks he's going to get a venue where he won't be muted and can just yell non-stop. Won't happen.

He won't agree to a debate where he can be muted. He'll claim that the rules are biased against him, and then play pigeon chess on twitter.

Yeah, exactly. CNN had the right motives behind their rules, and anyone who wants theirs to be taken seriously would do the same because Trump can't be trusted to control himself.

I share your sentiment, but I'm not even going to wish him good luck. Crash and burn motherfucker.

He and his ilk will cry foul about how elderly are treated badly by younger generation

Five bucks says he calls her Honey or Cupcake.

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My bingo card has Harris:

Saying “I’ll lock you up”,

And simply walking over and kneeing/kicking Trump in the balls before leaving.

Afterwards, she should just claim it was an official act from Biden, she just delivered it.

I dunno. Protected speech.

Seriously, I’m pretty sure there aren’t actual words that can full express my opinion of Trump. I just don’t want to go to jail, so I keep my “mouth” shut

Just from a purely strategic standpoint, this is such a problem for his campaign runners.

His head is too big. He basically things he's the macho messiah. The optimal thing to do is not debate Harris, not to give her a platform for people to see her with eyeballs he draws, and not to give Trump an opportunity to say something... unfortunate, as he has a history of doing in regards to women. He is debading a freaking prosecutor, and she is not going to crack or fold like he thinks.

But there is a 0% chance his campaign runners would talk him into that.

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Every statement by Harris, rebutting Trump: "My opponent, as a convicted felon is saying..."

Keep calling him weak until he caves and does it.

"I'll totally debate her as many times as she wants. Oh, I can't that day, Baron has swim lessons. I can't make that other day either because Melania is out of town. I can't make this day because I have a hate rally. I can't make this day because I have to play golf with Putin..."

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"I'll debate her so much, a lot of debating, ther will be mass debating on stage...."

“Debate”

Right? He doesn't debate, he Gish Gallops.

Handling gish gallops is easy for anyone ready to field them.

You pick the easiest thing they spat out to dismantle, explain that they're gish galloping so you'll only address the thing you chose due to time constraints.

You let them give you the meatball to knock out of the park and point out their shit rhetorical devices. Then it's obvious the next time they do it, and you do it again. Then they're naked.

Right? He doesn’t debate, he Gish Gallops.

If you want to see someone that does a master class in Gish Gallop, watch Kellyanne Conway. I'm not sure if she surpasses the person Gish Gallop is named for, and possible dementia donnie himself, but it is an amazing spew of bullshit. Watching her "debate" someone is sure to enrage any normal person, because it is so obvious what she is doing, and I have yet to see anyone call her on her bullshit.

Duane Gish was a creationist. He sucked balls like Ken Ham and Kent Hovind.

Oh yes, that much I knew. I don't think I've seen him in action, though. I do know that KAC and dementia donnie constantly do it and it's so annoying because no one ever shuts them down.

When the reality is, everyone, everywhere, should shut this down as the toxic behavior it really is.

He'll never turn down the opportunity to spew thinly veiled lies, childish insults and propaganda on live primetime television. This time he'll actually have an opponent who will serve him his own ass though.

Ridiculous amount of bonus points if she hits one of his word salads with "I don't know what he just said. I didn't think he knows what he just said either."

Why doesn't ABC sue him? According to the article he said to multiple reporters on that call, "I’m not thrilled about ABC because [of] fake news I watched last night." Is that not slander? He is claiming that ABC News specifically is lying. They should sue his ass over this. Everyone needs to stop letting him slide on all his lies.

With slander, you have to prove the statement is false and that it caused damages.

Super easy when a news organization says a voting booth was rigged by Hugo Chavez and quit using your company. Not so easy when the guy that spouts nonsense spouts nonsense and ABC news actually reports it. Could be argued his nonsense pays the electric bill at ABC.

Can't they demand that he prove that they are airing false information? If I go on CNN and say Donald Trump molests collies, he could sue me, couldn't he? It wouldn't be on him to prove that he doesn't actually molest collies. I would have to show that I have some reason to believe that he does.

Actually this isn't how it works (in most United States)

If Donald Trump sues you, he has to prove that you harbored "actual malice" because he is a public figure and politician, and therefore enjoys less protection from slander than regular nobodies.

You can raise the truth of your statements as an absolute defense, regardless of how malicious you were. But it's still on you to prove it's true, it at least a non-falsifiable opinion.

I woke up this morning terrified that he will irritate her into saying 'something' about the shooting. And then it will all be over.

Didn't he debate her last time he was running?

No, Mike Pence debated Harris in the previous election cycle. It’s tradition for the Vice-Presidential nominees to debate each other.