So you've heard of agricultural rule

hydroptic@sopuli.xyz to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone – 829 points –

Get ready for forklift certified goth gf

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I can only zoom in and stare at her thighs for so long, but I'm pretty sure she isn't wearing a seatbelt. Which if you were forklift certified you would know is rule #1.

She has bondage gear on her back that attaches to the seat.

I think there's a black lapbelt just below her actual belt, but that might be fabric or distortion in the image.

I don't think so because it would be covering the fringy seams on the right side of her shorts if she was wearing a belt.

Nobody at the grocery store I used to work at would wear the seatbelt. One time the district safety manager was touring and asked a manager (who didn't recognize her) about it and he got in so much trouble.

Oh, so it's hot when they're forklift certified goths, but an alt girl doing donuts riding the forks of a powered jack is a "safety issue" for everyone.

Shit, who hasn't done donuts with one of those?

… then again I'm an alt girl(ish) person too – is "alt girls doing donuts with a pallet jack" a stereotype I was previously unaware of? I didn't get declared a public menace though, much to my disappointment.

When I worked for asphalt plants as an operating engineer, we had 988 Loader Barbie. She could fill a bunker, top a silo, or dump a load in your bed. She really knew how to operate a center articulated front end Cat.

dump a load in your bed

Ah, the good 'ol Heard Turd

My beloved sister, God bless her, broke up with a guy a couple years ago. She shit on the floor of his bedroom and spray painted AT LEAST IT WASN'T THE BED on the walls.

Aaah Klaus. What happened to that guy anyway?

The best kind. Removes all my worries as swiftly as she wheels off them pallets

I can be your CAT

"Who's a good little cat?"
"Me, I'm a good little cat :3"
"And what do good little cats say?"
"BEEP BEEP BEEP WHIRRRRFFFFTT BONK! VRRRRRRRRR"

Is the popularity of that style more out of a preference for the color or is there often a deeper ethos, culture, lifestyle etc.?

It used to be the latter but with instagram and tiktok it just became another empty aesthetic.

this has massive "name all of their albums" energy. people should be allowed to look how they want.

And they are. I'm just pointing out that goth has become a meaningless aesthetic and people who dress like that nowadays usually don't care about the entire goth subculture.

It has become completely commodified.

People were saying this 20+ years ago because goths could talk online in chat rooms, see other goths on TV, had specific nights in goth-friendly bars, etc. It was always a mixture of both - unique, but not enough.

I'm comparing it to the punk subculture which despite of almost 50 years of attempts to commodify it has stayed true to its original values and actively rejects those who only care about aesthetics and not the punk rock DIY ethic as posers.

Hence pop-punk is a separate genre and is growing more and more detached from the punk subculture that it grew out of, but the original subculture remains active and popular.

That's why buying a leather jacket and pre-torn pants would get you laughed out of a punk rock gathering where everything is thrifted and modified DIY but buying every part of a goth outfit brand new is acceptable.

Being goth has completely lost any of its countercultural value since its emergence in the 80s. It has been completely absorbed by capitalism and regurgitated as a commodity, cool clothes you can buy at shopping malls.

I’m comparing it to the punk subculture which despite of almost 50 years of attempts to commodify it has stayed true to its original values and actively rejects those who only care about aesthetics and not the punk rock DIY ethic as posers

*cough* Sex Pistols *cough*

This entire comment is frankly still just ridiculous gatekeep-y elitist bullshit. I know plenty of goths who aren't just "commodified tiktok posers", but I guess if your purity test is "buying outfits" then yeah nobody is a true anything anymore

Almost every punk I've ever met considers the Sex Pistols to be posers and Johnny Rotten is a complete sellout and reactionary asshole.

You can call it gate keepy but this kind of anticapitalist and anticonsumptionist gatekeeping is what kept punk rock from being recuperated.

You can tell yourself whatever you want to feel superior to others, I guess

What a dismissive, reductive response. As if your point of view is the only one with any merit.

Didn't cry about it when we got told how nobody is a "real goth" anymore and everybody is just a filthy poser, but that is what got you all upset?

How about you fold your opinion so it's full of sharp edges and shove it up your pooper?

Actually after a re-read, you were constructive and made reasonable points throughout. My bad, I dunno why I interpreted that last one so harshly, wasn't really my business anyway.

Just want to back you up here and say the deeper ethos sometimes DOES matter. People need to stop acting like a piece of generally good advice applies to every situation ever. The "stop gatekeeping" pendulum has swung a bit too far (although the principle is great and, incidentally, punk as fuck!).

When did we decide everything has to be for everyone, and everyone has a right to participate in everything, just by virtue of existing? What would these folks say to someone who walks around in - e.g., Sikh cultural accoutrement - but has zero interest (and even a snobbish disdain) for the underlying religion? "Good for them, we shouldn't gatekeep"? Fuck outta here.

On the one hand, all culture and art is syncretic, full stop. I'm not saying punk rock is off limits in any way, that'd be absurd. But at this point it's got what, like 40 years of maintaining a broadly consistent ethos or spirit? That's remarkable, it's valuable, and it's only been possible because of gatekeeping - passionate community members putting forth effort to maintain the community identity. In a time when every damn thing of cultural significance is being hollowed out and commoditized for profit, we should all celebrate punk rock staying punk.

Fuck yeah, it was wired reading that entire thing with no pushback against the idea that gatekeeping is bad. Really feels like a childish position to hold, and i don't mean that I'm a condescending way, i mean that they've never seen anything they care about get worse because it got diluted.

Btw, what's the grey thing on the back?

Propane tank.

Propane forklift? I only know with diesel and electric.

About 20 years ago I worked at K-Mart in California. They had Propane forklifts. It was a big K-Mart. We had two!

They are very common in Australia. IDK about elsewhere.

I think because its easy to keep a stash of pre-filled gas bottles in the average small warehouse, as opposed to a drum of smelly diesel and some way to pump it.

I think it is because the exhaust is much cleaner than with diesel or gasoline.

That makes sense too. Cant imagime being stuck in a little warehouse with a diesel forklift, and all the smell of that

They're popular in Canada too. One of my previous workplaces had a large supply of propane on site for other production purposes and we could refill the forklift tanks anytime.

I'd guess a propane tank. I don't have any experience with forklifts, but I know there are lots of propane powered ones (in addition to the electric ones)