Trump Warns That if Kamala Harris Wins, ‘Everybody Gets Health Care’

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Oh no! Such horrors!

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Don't threaten me with a good time

I know, right?!

Unfortunately, Trump is lying as usual:

Harris, who has had shifting stances on health care in the past, confirmed in late July through her campaign that she no longer supports a single-payer health care system.

This was one of my big complaints with Biden and now Harris. I'll still vote for them, but I have to stay at a shitty job that I fucking hate so that I can afford my mental health subscription.

They charge a subscription fee for mental health?

$25 copay per month for a 5 minute visit so I can get a refill on my $10 prescription. Without insurance the visit is around $200. I've considered trying to get prescriptions through one of those online pharmacies to avoid having to go to the doctor every month.

Sooooo.......universal health care?

Nope, she's back on the ACA train 😮‍💨

The ACA was intend to support single player health care.

She's taking the Obama position which, it's the politically savvy one, if they can get all the measures of the ACA through.

The ACA is what Canada did before transitioning to single payer. That had anyways been the goal of the ACA.

The issue is a lot of Americans are resistant to single payer. They think having only 1 choice is like communism or something.

Which is why the ACA had always been the first step. Obama had said as much, publicly.

It's telling that there's a chance for big healthcare to come over to her side. It's the worst kind of good news, since they need to die, and must be aware that any kind of functioning democracy will eventually kill their business model.

But apparently their other current option doesn't stay bought...?

Perfect example of how the conservative goal is not to "make things better for most people" but to "make things worse for specific groups"

Yup! Wilhoit's Law is alive and well in the fascist Republican party!

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

“You’re all going to be thrown into a communist system … You’re going to be thrown into a system where everybody gets health care.”

I thought that it wasn't possible to be that stupid and that you just took his words out of context, but.... once again he proved me that he could sound more stupid every time he opens his mouth

words out of context

lol when your "context" is "the only truth that exists is whatever i just sharted out of my mouth," then does anyone else's perception of context even matter?

someone tried to argue that everyone was taking the "you won't have to vote anymore" statement a couple weeks ago out of context. then some GOP muppet tried to say he was joking. after years of GOP bleating about "i love trump because he speaks his mind!"

for someone who speaks his mind and tells it like it is, trump sure does need a lot of explanation olympics-tier mental acrobatics to get to what he really meant when he said ___________ (literally anything)

someone tried to argue that everyone was taking the “you won’t have to vote anymore” statement a couple weeks ago out of context. then some GOP muppet tried to say he was joking. after years of GOP bleating about “i love trump because he speaks his mind!”

That and Trump saying he would be a dictator on day one.

U guys are about to become a 1st world country I'm so proud.

Sadly no. She's dropped her support for Medicare for all. We'll be closer than likely ever before, and we might get an option to buy in to Medicare or Medicaid, our two government run systems. If we ever got enough in Congress and Senate to push Medicare for all through, I'm pretty sure she'd sign it, and I don't think she's fight against it, but her focus is on Obamacare, because she's now so tied to the Obama admin through Biden.

Her campaign has said she would not push for single payer as President, but it's important to remember that those kinds of promises can be broken just as easily as the usual campaign promises to do things which never materialize.

If she gets into office, progressive pressure needs to ramp up and stay up; the real goal should be the 2026 midterms.

If only that were true.

In the US, people like to assert that we have "access" to health care, but that access is subject to a significant paywall, and therefore doesn't exist if you can't afford to be price-gouged.

Even with insurance I had to fork over ,$2k for an MRI. I have no idea what I'm gonna do if I actually need surgery

I'm a Candian here so take my advice for what is worth. Vote Democrat as cross the board.

I have cancer. Hodgkins Lymphoma. A felt a lump in my neck on Friday. Called the doctors office on Monday and saw the doctor on Wednesday. In the next two months I had an ultrasound that was, "worrying" followed up by a chest x-ray and full body CT. That necessitated a biopsy which resulted in the positive diagnosis of Hodgkins. That triggered a PET scan, respiratory study, and echocardiogram. I saw my oncologist a week after the PET scan and started chemo two days later. I just had my second infusion this morning and I'm feeling a bit beaten up. They gave me Ondensetron for the night after chemo and Olanzapine for nausea as needed. All I pay for is parking at the hospital and I can claim that on my taxes.

Universal healthcare is really, really hard to implement. That's why only 22 of the 23 most developed countries in the world have it.

The US health care system is a grotesque lie.

If you’re got universal health care, I don’t see how that would lead to voting for Democrats?

I'm a Candian. I'm suggesting that voting for Democrats would be far more likely to get you universal healthcare than voting for the neo-fascist Christian nationalists.

Sadly, it is not.

Democrats could have implemented a universal health care system under Obama, but chose not to. They, as much as Republicans, are profiting from the price gouging in our health care system.

They didn't do it last time so vote neo-fascist Christian national because they surely will? Give you fucking head a shake.

They didn't do it last time.

Respectfully, it's not "they didn't do it last time". It's "they never do it". It's never going to happen. Democrats have demonstrated that they are just a corrupt cog in the system, a system that ensures the wealthy keep acquiring vulgar sums of money they don't need, while life gets harder and harder for the working class and the poor.

Take a really close look at your insurance policy.

They fuck you over at the beginning with deductible. Then the out-of-pocket maximums come into play. The maximium you can be responsible for is $9,450. More than enough to bankrupt most people. My plan is at $4k per person through my wife's union job.

Depending on what state you live in you can apply for income based bill reduction as well. These are common in blue states. In red states, consider dying.

I'll check thank you. I really shouldn't be complaining. I have a good job and decent healthcare and the issue I am working is not life threatening. Someone with less good healthcare and a chronic disease are fucked over much harder :(

Kamala won't give us healthcare.

However, back in 2016, Trump promised to give us universal healthcare "the governments gonna pay for it!" when he did that interview with O'Donnel? I think

Healthcare for everyone? I don't want that! I want everyone to pay for their own healthcare for the rest of their life! Even after i died, i want everyone to know i pay for my own healthcare for a while! Ten years, at least!

He makes a great case for voting for Kamala.

I'm one of those people that only has healthcare because of the healthcare program. I have an insufferable time dealing with disability and the state. The quality of care is still absolute trash in reality, but such is a world where real science is completely undermined by capitalism commercialism nonsense. What is not known, and what is not treatable falls into a massive blind spot in the present scheme. Three sigma and cherry picking are not science; five sigma and double blind studies, without fitting findings to results are the realm of all real science.

Ultimately, ethical healthcare means the end of the era of this pseudoscientific nonsense industry of our present barbarism. Privateer pirate criminals hate that kind of progress in society. Ethics really chop their balls off.

Yet another Trump lie.

According to the article the latest word from Kamala Harris is what Trump claimed. “Her spokesperson” (unnamed in the article) reversed it, but the article gives no report on Harris’s actual position.

If you know of more up to date information on Harris’s position, please mention it.

I think the original comment might be referring to the fact that the US wouldn't allow it even if it were the current sitting president's stance. See the last 50 years for references