JD Vance says GOP should threaten a shutdown: 'Why have a government if it’s not a functioning government?'

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Congress faces a Sept. 30 deadline to fund the government or risk a shutdown.

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Maybe government shut downs should trigger a new congressional election. This is their fucking job, if they can't fund the Government, get out of the way

I'm all for something like this but I would never assume the GOP wouldn't go nuclear like this just to kick out a Democrat they really dislike or time it when they think it's most advantageous (e.g. just after a redistricting).

The rule should probably be that failure to pass a bill means current funding is extended for 3 months with an increase based on inflation.

The only reason this happens is because our system is so weird. In every other country, funding is automatic and doesn't need to be authorized separately. The fix is to switch to a similar setup. Of course, that will never happen, as it would take away this bludgeon the GOP uses to try to get its way.

It isn't automatic in the UK, but it is always a confidence vote, so if you can't pass the budget, your government is out.

It's not automatic everywhere! I'm pretty sure deciding where the money from the budget goes is the biggest decision the current government can take for shaping the country. But in other countries this is mostly passed by Parliament, where the government has the majority by design most of the time (that's why they are the ruling party or coalition). On the USA, the Congress and Senate thing is responsible for the deadlock.

Nah. Too easy.

Lock the doors. Nobody in or out until they pass a fucking budget. Like, literally nobody. No aides. No food delivery. No medics. Fucking nothing. Until you pass the budget. The solution is simple: do your fucking job.

A non-functioning government due to obstruction.

suggests threatening a shutdown

Thanks for the example of obstruction, Vance. Go buy another donut.

But what kind of donut?

whatever makes sense

wow, what a great answer; how long have you worked here?

that’s not a weird question at all

right?

Honestly it's not that weird a question when making idle chit chat. It becomes weird when that's the only thing you ask, follow it up with "Okay", and then proceed to do it six more times.

Hmmm, shutdown a non-functional government that you made non-functional? Seems like a you and your party problem.

GOP: Is actively and willfully making the government non-functional.

Also GOP: "See? Government doesn't work!"

???

It's been their #1 play for decades

EDIT: And somehow it has continued to work for them

I still think every time the government threatens a shutdown workers should start organizing to threaten a general strike. If the government saw union leaders organizing to strike once the government shuts down, they'd never let it shut down again. Exploit their weakness, if they want to stop governing, we should stop making the capital their owners desire.

Oh, this is actually really smart. Too bad basically all the media and social platforms are owned by oligarchs.

Too bad government workers can't legally strike. That must be done by the unions.

Id wager most government workers wont need to strike during a government shutdown as most government jobs won't be functioning during the shutdown, they could march with the unions easily. The cops will be the largest group of gov employees still working and we don't wanna see them at the marches anyway.

Do it. I dare you to.

They do this almost every year. It's not even really a threat, anymore, just an expectation.

Vance is dumb* to come out and say it out loud because it makes him an easy possible scapegoat for the inevitable fury that a shutdown fight causes.

*Shocking, I know.

How about, so our service men and women are guaranteed to get a paycheck? Is that a good enough reason couch fucker?

The fact that they can even shut down as often as they do is honestly ridiculous. When I don't do my fucking job I get fired.

As third worlder the idea of shutting down a government is just crazy to me. I only heard of government shutdowns as a US thing. Any other countries do this?

I don't believe a government shutdown ever occurred at least in recent decades without the majority of the population blaming Republicans. Thinking back particularly to the times Ted Cruz orchestrated them.

Ok so he thinks the government doesn't function now. And shutting it down will make it function. Dudes from Ohio all right.

That's of course followed by putting in a strong dictator who makes it all work

I agree, JD. I mean, why shouldn’t you kick yourself in the balls? Go on! Show those people! Do it!

Why even have a JD Vance if he's broken and fucked couches?

Welp, we've already seen plenty from these folks about how they would "lead". No thanks.

Why have a functioning car if you can't go out and slash your own tires?

What the fuck kind of thinking...

It's actually kind of smart for the presidential campaign to push for a government shutdown. Republicans will get blamed, but not Trump specifically.

And everyone looks bad in a shutdown to median voters. The immediate reaction is "just make a deal" which means Biden-Harris admin looks bad too...not as bad as Congressional Republicans but also bad, surely there are people who will (incorrectly) not think Voter ID laws are important enough for all this fuss either way.

Of course, the problem is that the Trump team are being too obvious with it so they WILL be blamed if it happens, now.

Same thing happened with the border bill...would have been genius if it failed without Trump meddling.

Leave it to Vance to milk some more couch time.

Putting HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Working Class people out of Work before an Election is PROOF that REPUBLICANS Support the Working Class!

You guys blew it - you could have had This beefcake as a Vice President but noooooo. You had to vote for Obama.

Beefcake! Beefcaaaake!!