Not even. He officially left the Dems and registered as independent earlier this year.
I for one am very happy to rid the party of these scumbags: Manchin, Gabbard, Sinema.
Depressingly, also Fetterman.
Fetterman is bad on Israel-Palestine but I thought he was otherwise ok re: democracy, women's rights, etc? Am I wrong? He's not my rep so I'm actually asking.
He always struck me as a guy who is who he is. He would fail any ideology test because he goes by his gut rather than any ideological compass. I think he felt his supporters were being a bit mercurial for opposing him so vehemently on Israel. Not really an excuse, but I think he just lost his shit and lost his way. So probably a decent guy but he has to do a lot of work to repair that bridge and I have no idea if he's up to it.
But I could be wrong.
Gabbard and Sinema are people that can be replaced with other democrats, but let’s not fool ourselves into thinking a more progressive person would likely get elected for Manchin’s West Virginia seat.
Manchin may suck, but he caucuses with the dems and puts the dems 2 seats over the majority line. Which means his existence currently allows the Chuck Schumer to replace Mitch McConnell, which means the dems control what comes to the floor in the senate.
They just can't pass anything. But yeah, it is still better than what the other side would bring to the floor.
Don’t forget executive appointments. A GOP can block the appointment of normal judges and can fast track weirdos if someone like Trump is in office.
It’s more than passing laws.
On the one hand, this matters because it allows the Senate to actually approve qualified judges to the federal bench, instead of the insane ideologues the GOP puts there.
On the other hand, all the federal judges in the world mean very little when SCOTUS is as thoroughly corrupt and extreme-right as it is, and has no issue overturning whatever cases they want to achieve the decision they've already arrived at.
On the other other hand, Manchin got to obstruct otherwise-popular legislation from either passing, or even being brought up for a vote merely by threatening to vote against it.
On the whole we're definitely better than we were before Biden took office, but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on Manchin. The successes of the Biden administration are despite Manchin, not because of him.
Then re-registered as a Dem when Biden was about to drop out. Then re-re-registered as an Indie when he realized he wasn't going to get handed to nomination over Harris.
An independent now. Not even a DINO.
More like a Dixiecrat. Old school southern Democrat.
Honestly, I’ll take it.
Dude could be a Home Depot Halloween skeleton for all I care. He caucuses with the Dems, which means that he helps push the Dems over 50% in the senate, which means the Dems control political appointments and what get brought to the floor.
I’ll take him over Mitch McConnell back in power.
Remember RINO was a term before the party switch. It was used for people deemed not progressive enough.
The fact that Biden called for this exact same thing and Manchin was ok endorsing him but has to make a big scene when a non-white woman calls for doing the same thing basically tells you everything you need to know about Manchin
This pearl clutching very much reads to me like he was looking for an excuse and this was the first one that turned up.
I think there are more differences between Kamala and Joe besides melanin levels and genitalia structure but okay I guess
Edit: Oh, I guess Kamala really is Biden in an Indian-African-American woman's body after all, nvm
According to Ron Desantis, you can't discuss genitals. His Wehrmacht is en route to your location now.
SS or Gestapo would be more accurate, not saying the Wehrmacht was clean just that the SS and Gestapo were the direct enforcers.
But they are busy knocking on the doors of the residents who voted wrong.
The way you said this made me think of like an underfunded and understaffed Gestapo and SS. Which is a rather amusing thought, "Verdamnit Hans we need to round up the degenerates but Klein was hit by a fucking car and we dont have enough people to cover his fucking shift".
So good
Yeah, Joe has dementia.
lol true
Why not just make the filibuster what it used to be and require the people who want to wield it to hold the floor for hours upon hours with no break? Some of it was silly. Some of it heroic. Either way, it required someone to truly be willing to stand behind their beliefs and, thus, was used much less often.
I also liked the idea of a minority vote (2/5) to sustain a filibuster. If you don't have 40 supporters, on the floor, then the filibuster ends.
it required someone to truly be willing to stand behind their beliefs
Conservatives don't typically have these, and the ones that do know how unpopular they are. That's why they fight against any attempt to reign it in.
This seems like such a fair way to add some discomfort to filibustering and making it a bit less appealing.
Oh no! Anyways…
Can someone kick this guy in the nuts? I don't really care about this news, I just think that should happen to him, every day.
Republicans can endorse Harris all day long and I'm here for it.
Manchin endorsing Harris would have actually done her a disservice.
Manchin was not going to endorse her anyway.
It's 42 days to the election, people are voting, if he was going to endorse her it would have been at the convention.
True
Oh wow, the republican infiltrator isnt supporting the democrats.
I'm sooooooooo surprised.
I'd seen the quote, but not the withholding of endorsement. Well, I guess he's going to join the 'both sides bad' crowd.
Still. What does his opinion matter? He's leaving the Senate next year so his proper alt-Right replacement can take over...
It's going to be a Democrat. 18 year olds who are voting for the first time are going to hand Harris a super majority.
Lol
I love their optimism.
The very popular republican governor is running for his seat. Its gone at this point.
18 year olds in WV aren't voting dem, as they're the ones that couldn't get into college and are stuck in WV.
So, not rich then?
Rich people don't vote, they pay whoever wins.
Manchin LOL. What a piece of work.
He’s a fucking tool; I don’t expect she’ll care much. Also: what an absolutely fucking idiotic hill for him to die on.
Like I give a flying fuck what Joe Manchin's DINO ass thinks
@realcaseyrollins he's gunna endorse trump and could end up sec of energy
Oh boy...that would be something...
Manchin not endorsing IS an endorsement. Harris should run commercials.
"It’s the only thing that keeps us talking and instead of working together."
Who cares about this dinosaur, like anyone is surprised?
He's going to try and run for governor in West Virginia, then run for President in 2028, without a doubt.
Then shouldn't he back Harris so that there are still elections in 2028?
They will still need to hold "elections" and they will need someone with a D next to their name to win every 12-16 years to keep up a facade
then run for President in 2028
As a.....democrat?
fuck that guy... fuck him with a retractable baton
At LEAST twice. Possibly 47 times.
In a row?!
Absolutely. Per day.
Holy Grail? An item given no special meaning in the Bible, and was blown out of proportion in importance by fiction writers a thousand years later? I guess Manchin doesn't really think the filibuster is too important then.
No special meaning and not in the Constitution.
Fuck Joe "This is the best we can hope for" Manchin.
And fuck the system that makes him the best we can hope for.
West Virginia used to be cool.
The last time WV was cool was the 1300s
The Buck Garden people did make some pretty fly pottery
Idk, seeing as it was created by separating from Virginia as to not be in the Confederacy in 1863 - that seems pretty cool to me
I'm pretty sure the state being a graveyard of natives genocided by whites overpowers random white people disputes
He likes his power
Forced Birther coal baron Joe Manchin is upset at Harris for threatening his cash cow fillibuster. News at 11
This guy sucks.
"I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message!"
Who gives a single fuck what Joe "I'm really a Republican" Manchin says?
Oh no! Not getting Manchin's endorsement will really be a albatross for Harris in the West Virginia race where Trump won 68% to 29% in 2020.
Does this make Manchin a Tankie?
Who could have seen that coming?
Oh literally everyone nvm
Whatever he needs to do to get elected to avoid Republican control of the Senate. Yeah it'll suck if he is one of the saviors of the filibuster. But it'll suck more if Republicans are in charge of the Senate.
He's not running for reelection, the Rs are getting that Senate seat this year
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That is an endorsement in of itself.
he is a DINO
Not even. He officially left the Dems and registered as independent earlier this year.
I for one am very happy to rid the party of these scumbags: Manchin, Gabbard, Sinema.
Depressingly, also Fetterman.
Fetterman is bad on Israel-Palestine but I thought he was otherwise ok re: democracy, women's rights, etc? Am I wrong? He's not my rep so I'm actually asking.
He always struck me as a guy who is who he is. He would fail any ideology test because he goes by his gut rather than any ideological compass. I think he felt his supporters were being a bit mercurial for opposing him so vehemently on Israel. Not really an excuse, but I think he just lost his shit and lost his way. So probably a decent guy but he has to do a lot of work to repair that bridge and I have no idea if he's up to it.
But I could be wrong.
Gabbard and Sinema are people that can be replaced with other democrats, but let’s not fool ourselves into thinking a more progressive person would likely get elected for Manchin’s West Virginia seat.
Manchin may suck, but he caucuses with the dems and puts the dems 2 seats over the majority line. Which means his existence currently allows the Chuck Schumer to replace Mitch McConnell, which means the dems control what comes to the floor in the senate.
They just can't pass anything. But yeah, it is still better than what the other side would bring to the floor.
Don’t forget executive appointments. A GOP can block the appointment of normal judges and can fast track weirdos if someone like Trump is in office.
It’s more than passing laws.
On the one hand, this matters because it allows the Senate to actually approve qualified judges to the federal bench, instead of the insane ideologues the GOP puts there.
On the other hand, all the federal judges in the world mean very little when SCOTUS is as thoroughly corrupt and extreme-right as it is, and has no issue overturning whatever cases they want to achieve the decision they've already arrived at.
On the other other hand, Manchin got to obstruct otherwise-popular legislation from either passing, or even being brought up for a vote merely by threatening to vote against it.
On the whole we're definitely better than we were before Biden took office, but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on Manchin. The successes of the Biden administration are despite Manchin, not because of him.
Then re-registered as a Dem when Biden was about to drop out. Then re-re-registered as an Indie when he realized he wasn't going to get handed to nomination over Harris.
An independent now. Not even a DINO.
More like a Dixiecrat. Old school southern Democrat.
Honestly, I’ll take it.
Dude could be a Home Depot Halloween skeleton for all I care. He caucuses with the Dems, which means that he helps push the Dems over 50% in the senate, which means the Dems control political appointments and what get brought to the floor.
I’ll take him over Mitch McConnell back in power.
Remember RINO was a term before the party switch. It was used for people deemed not progressive enough.
The fact that Biden called for this exact same thing and Manchin was ok endorsing him but has to make a big scene when a non-white woman calls for doing the same thing basically tells you everything you need to know about Manchin
This pearl clutching very much reads to me like he was looking for an excuse and this was the first one that turned up.
I think there are more differences between Kamala and Joe besides melanin levels and genitalia structure but okay I guess
Edit: Oh, I guess Kamala really is Biden in an Indian-African-American woman's body after all, nvm
According to Ron Desantis, you can't discuss genitals. His Wehrmacht is en route to your location now.
SS or Gestapo would be more accurate, not saying the Wehrmacht was clean just that the SS and Gestapo were the direct enforcers.
But they are busy knocking on the doors of the residents who voted wrong.
The way you said this made me think of like an underfunded and understaffed Gestapo and SS. Which is a rather amusing thought, "Verdamnit Hans we need to round up the degenerates but Klein was hit by a fucking car and we dont have enough people to cover his fucking shift".
So good
Yeah, Joe has dementia.
lol true
Why not just make the filibuster what it used to be and require the people who want to wield it to hold the floor for hours upon hours with no break? Some of it was silly. Some of it heroic. Either way, it required someone to truly be willing to stand behind their beliefs and, thus, was used much less often.
I also liked the idea of a minority vote (2/5) to sustain a filibuster. If you don't have 40 supporters, on the floor, then the filibuster ends.
Conservatives don't typically have these, and the ones that do know how unpopular they are. That's why they fight against any attempt to reign it in.
This seems like such a fair way to add some discomfort to filibustering and making it a bit less appealing.
Oh no! Anyways…
Can someone kick this guy in the nuts? I don't really care about this news, I just think that should happen to him, every day.
Republicans can endorse Harris all day long and I'm here for it.
Manchin endorsing Harris would have actually done her a disservice.
Manchin was not going to endorse her anyway.
It's 42 days to the election, people are voting, if he was going to endorse her it would have been at the convention.
True
Oh wow, the republican infiltrator isnt supporting the democrats.
I'm sooooooooo surprised.
I'd seen the quote, but not the withholding of endorsement. Well, I guess he's going to join the 'both sides bad' crowd.
Still. What does his opinion matter? He's leaving the Senate next year so his proper alt-Right replacement can take over...
It's going to be a Democrat. 18 year olds who are voting for the first time are going to hand Harris a super majority.
Lol
I love their optimism.
The very popular republican governor is running for his seat. Its gone at this point.
18 year olds in WV aren't voting dem, as they're the ones that couldn't get into college and are stuck in WV.
So, not rich then?
Rich people don't vote, they pay whoever wins.
Manchin LOL. What a piece of work.
He’s a fucking tool; I don’t expect she’ll care much. Also: what an absolutely fucking idiotic hill for him to die on.
Like I give a flying fuck what Joe Manchin's DINO ass thinks
@realcaseyrollins he's gunna endorse trump and could end up sec of energy
Oh boy...that would be something...
Manchin not endorsing IS an endorsement. Harris should run commercials.
"It’s the only thing that keeps us talking
andinstead of working together."Who cares about this dinosaur, like anyone is surprised?
He's going to try and run for governor in West Virginia, then run for President in 2028, without a doubt.
Then shouldn't he back Harris so that there are still elections in 2028?
They will still need to hold "elections" and they will need someone with a D next to their name to win every 12-16 years to keep up a facade
As a.....democrat?
fuck that guy... fuck him with a retractable baton
At LEAST twice. Possibly 47 times.
In a row?!
Absolutely. Per day.
Holy Grail? An item given no special meaning in the Bible, and was blown out of proportion in importance by fiction writers a thousand years later? I guess Manchin doesn't really think the filibuster is too important then.
No special meaning and not in the Constitution.
Fuck Joe "This is the best we can hope for" Manchin.
And fuck the system that makes him the best we can hope for.
West Virginia used to be cool.
The last time WV was cool was the 1300s
The Buck Garden people did make some pretty fly pottery
Idk, seeing as it was created by separating from Virginia as to not be in the Confederacy in 1863 - that seems pretty cool to me
I'm pretty sure the state being a graveyard of natives genocided by whites overpowers random white people disputes
He likes his power
Forced Birther coal baron Joe Manchin is upset at Harris for threatening his cash cow fillibuster. News at 11
This guy sucks.
"I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message!"
Who gives a single fuck what Joe "I'm really a Republican" Manchin says?
Oh no! Not getting Manchin's endorsement will really be a albatross for Harris in the West Virginia race where Trump won 68% to 29% in 2020.
Does this make Manchin a Tankie?
Who could have seen that coming?
Oh literally everyone nvm
Whatever he needs to do to get elected to avoid Republican control of the Senate. Yeah it'll suck if he is one of the saviors of the filibuster. But it'll suck more if Republicans are in charge of the Senate.
He's not running for reelection, the Rs are getting that Senate seat this year
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