!piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com has the most subscribers out of any community according to lemmyverse.net

Hikiru@lemmy.world to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com – 1026 points –
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Likely a combination of the community having more tech savvy individuals + realising Reddit would fuck over r/Piracy eventually, making more of them follow dbzer0 here when they were overthrown.

Also r/piracy stayed shut for a while with a direct and easy link to this community. That's how I found it.

Plus the downfall of the lemmy.fmhy.ml server, which had a pretty big and active piracy community too.

What happened to them?

govt of mali let use freenom .ml domains, then freenom removed them for reasons, one of reasons being that it got traction. (?) they have moved since to fmhy.net

Oh yes, I have heard a lot of cases like this related to freenom. They deactivate domains that get traction and resell them at a premium (mostly to spammy ad networks that hoard domains).

My understanding is that there had been an ongoing concern on /r/piracy that they would get shut down at some point, that this had been a concern in the past, and so the other stuff like the API restrictions and the rest of the spez drama was kind of just adding to the big factor pushing people away -- that the community could vanish at any time.

The lead mod on /r/piracy also set up a dedicated instance -- there was definite commitment -- made it clear that he was making the move, and was demodded on /r/piracy, so there were factors creating more inertia.

Those are all factors that did not generally exist for other communities.

IPO goals made it seem piracy days on reddit were numbered, so those with foresight were itching for a new place off reddit and leapt at the opportunity to find a new place.

Keep in mind that Lemmy.world communities are not listed due to crawling issues.

Well that's a huge caveat. I bet their communities would be bigger then.

Idk, the piracy community is huge here. Of all communities I've looked at, it's by far the most active.

Because people here are tired of being exploited by corps I would assume.

Also it's a teenage thing. No money but wants to play all the latest games. :)

I used to download every single game when I was a kid.

Im almost 60. So not just a teenage thing. Arrrr!

I'm pushing 40 and want to be like you when I grow up!

Always exceptions, some people like you stay cool their entire life :)

Personally, I like having more usable versions of things I already own. A certain company's games play better emulated on my PC day one than after a year of updates on their own console.

I'm about 40 and have used them as demos for some time. There are a ton of games I've ended up buying that I never would've due to piracy. Maybe I'm all alone, but when finances are tight, I QUIT pirating games so I won't find another I love.

Also I'm firmly in the "I bought it, so I should own it camp." I have quite a few games that I'll buy, but still use the pirated version because it doesn't need the internet, or need to spend an hour updating every time I want to play.

"I still do, but I used to too"

That's kinda strange, not gonna lie. I was expecting a lot more subs in the meme communities etc.

I do find it interesting that when lemmy instances are mentioned, lemmy.dbzer0.com is mentioned as an afterthought, if at all :D

I reckon it's probably a good thing we are flying under the radar in the media tbh. Media attention might draw other forms of unwanted attention. It'll be interesting to see how things shake out over the next year or so though. Those meme communities have a lot of growth potential given their demographic.

🏴‍☠️ Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free. You are a pirate! 🏴‍☠️

Although good for the active community, I don’t feel like it’s a great advertisement of lemmy for the wider public

Eh I think it's pretty neat. Means a majority of users are tired of or willing to subvert capitalism in some aspect and that gives me hope.

Ohhh that's a reason for the mainstream news agencies to make up sensational headlines and demonize the fediverse

“You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.”

lemmy.cfd

I own this domain and don't have anything better to use it for, so it's a shorter link to the above mentioned community indexer.

Start a clothing fashion design dedicated instance immediately, it's the law

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I guess Lemmy users probably also have high sympathies for digital piracy, opposing copyright is very wide spread within the open source community but there are a lot of factors at play here and I'm glad that's the case because I only started to really use it on Lemmy! :)

german instances are stable overall, so they can afford the high community user count

So dbzer0.com points to a German server?

I'm interested in how the workload is split up, the database is the weak link right?

Edit: dude, it's a fast server, GG

dbzer0.com is german yea, so is discuss.tchncs.de and feddit.de: and they are reliable

Why is there no lemmy.world community at all? I'm pretty sure it has a lot of big communities

Putting all of the large communities on a single instance is just reddit with more steps. It's good that one of the larger Lemmy communities is not also on the largest Lemmy instance. Lemmy.world suffers a lot of outages (in part because it's so centralized), meanwhile this community remains available.

That is the reason why I self host my own private instance.

Just out of curiosity

I have my own instance (gadgetro.id), but it isn't set to private. Are you still able to browse other accounts on the fediverse from your instance when set to private?

I don't even know if it's set to private. If you mean browsing accounts from subscribed communities then yes.

What's the hardware and network demand like ? I've been vaguely thinking of doing so myself.

My friends instance, crystals.rest, is hosted on a $5/mo Linode with 1GB of RAM

The lxc container in Proxmox is at around 500 MB of ram usage, 1.35 GB of network traffic, and less than 1% CPU usage. Although I'm the only one using the instance.

Thanks, appreciated.

Edit

I assume you mean 1.35gb of network data per day ? As opposed to per minute / per second etc

I'm pretty new here, what is an "instance"? And why is it better to have the big communities on different ones rather than one main?

An instance is just a way to access Lemmy. Lemmy.world, lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, feddit.uk, etc - you can use any of these to access Lemmy and interact with, and see, all the same content.

It's a problem because most communities are hosted on lemmy.world at the moment, but if lemmy.world ever dies they'll die with it.

They need to add account and community migration as soon as possible

To elaborate further from the other comment, it's a person running a copy of the Lemmy software on their server. I for example am running mine (and seeing this thread) from https://zemmy.cc. Thanks to Federation all of our different servers are able to talk to each other so we can have a shared experience rather than everyone being on one centralized instance managed by one set of administrators (like reddit is).

This provides resilience to the network. If reddit goes down, reddit is down. If lemmy.world goes down, you can still access the content of every community that isn't on lemmy.world, and if other servers were subscribed to the content on a community from lemmy.world you could still see the content from before the server went offline (and it will resync once it's back up).

If we put all of our eggs into a single basket, we have a single point of failure. If all of the major communities go to lemmy.world then lemmy.world is that single point of failure. Doing that is effectively just recreating the same issues we had with reddit but with extra steps. By spreading larger communities across servers we ensure that the outage (or permanent closure) of a single instance doesn't take down half the active communities with it.

You can think of it like emails. It'd be better to have more choice than just gmail.

Lemmy.world is shitting the bed lately, Lemmyverse is not able to collect data from it.

Yup, the Formula 1 community isn't in there for example.

As soon as reddit started looking into the money /r piracy's days were numbered.

Is there any equivalent of lemmyverse for kbin magazines?

I'm subscribed to bother Lemmy communities and kbin magazines of the same name. I'm in kbin.social so I can't tell you the exact magazine name - I search for the subject, say tech, and then subscribe to all of the groups.

Lemmyverse itself supports Kbin Magazines, just open the menu at the top right corner and hit the option.

OH thank you! That is even more awesome. I didn't even think to look because of the name of the website has "lemmy" in it lol. This is exactly what I wanted :)