Damning video shows Roger Stone is plotting a coup for November

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A nine-minute, unedited, undercover interview with Roger Stone revealed some of the MAGA ally’s more disturbing goals for a second Trump administration.

The covert recording of a discussion between Stone and an undercover journalist at a meet and greet in Jacksonville, Florida, on August 4, published by documentarian Lauren Windsor, caught Stone admitting live on camera that he already intends to send “armed guards to dispute the election in Detroit” and to imprison “former Attorney General Bill Barr if Trump returns to power.”

Under the guise of discussing a far-right program to get more like-minded people back into the federal government, Stone shared his disdain for Barr, deriding him as a “traitorous piece of human garbage.” He also lamented that, while president, “Donald Trump never controlled the Justice Department.”

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Plotting coups has been Roger Stone’s MO for decades. He was behind the Brooks Brothers Riot in 2000, and the J6 insurrection. He’s one of the key players and amongst the most dangerous fascists in the US, and it’s astounding he manages to stay out of our conversations – and largely away from repercussions – to the extent he does.

He’s been getting away with absolutely devastating ratfuckery since Nixon (whose face is literally tattooed on his back).

He desperately needs consequences. He’s needed consequences for decades.

successfully plotting coups

Ftfy. We should keep in mind that this guys approach to coups has actually worked in the past. The first attempt at a stolen election was 2000, and it worked.

Yes, and he’s been carefully learning from his failures ever since, honing his strategies in concert with other actually intelligent fascists like Bannon, Miller, etc, as well as foreign dictators like Erdoğan, Orbán, and Putin.

This threat is not being taken seriously enough, partly because they have a buffoonish carnival barker of a front-man who, by design, deflects attempts to take the threat seriously.

It’s very worrisome.

e: weird crosshatch

When people talk about the 'deep state' and all of the conspiracies of shadowy cabals, in reality it's just this fucking piece of shit.

This piece of shit, plus the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, and a handful of others. He’s basically their mercenary.

Peter Thiel too now. Penetrate that prick with a perpendicular pineapple.

Add Leonard Leo to the list too.

The projection about deep-state fuckery is because they run a wannabe-deep-state themselves.

He should be in prison for the rest of his life and kissing the feet of everyone else that he wasn't put in front of a firing squad.

Wow. Pretty serious accusation. Any word on when the DOJ will be indicting him?

I am certain they will make an announcement about an investigation that MIGHT lead to action... After the election.

This shitbird needs to go back to prison. The fact he's out at all is a complete miscarriage of justice.

Cases like him are why we actually do need the death penalty (and why it's the Constitutionally-prescribed punishment for treason). As we can see from Trump's pardoning of him, any lesser punishment isn't final enough.

That's what I was thinking, but you said it better than I would have. Pretty disgusting that we have the death penalty and only use it for innocent, poor, or mentally ill people while Roger fucking Stone walks. 🤮

How is this fucker not in prison for discussing the assassination of two House Democrats?

Or for any other crime, for that matter.

It's insane how much crime we're willing to tolerate as long as it's committed by rich white people.

Kinda sad how many businesses make more money in a month of payroll fraud alone than most "career criminals" can make in a lifetime of B&Es.

Biden could solve a lot of problems with just a couple executive actions right now.

I wish this asshat would be imprisoned already. Fucking traitorous filth.

*Another coup. This is, what, coup #3? Brooks brothers riot in 2000, J6, and now 2024.

What happened to punishing treasonous fuckers?

They never prosecuted the business plot. This is the long game version of it.

Or prosecuted Nixon. And let Oliver North take the fall for Iran Contra.

When I think of Roger Stone, I think of the ignominiousness of Roy Cohn, and the especially ironic (and very horrible) way he died.

Sadly, as much as I hate Roger Stone, I cannot wish that upon him. However, I do hope he does meet at least an equal amount of irony in his demise.

Edit: for the curious, check out Angels in America. Be prepared to cry.

He died of AIDS complications, which isn't a nice way to go but it's not notably worse than many of the other typical ways people die.

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A couple of people seem to be misreading what i wrote. I specifically said AIDS is a bad way to go, but so are zillions of other common ways such as Alzheimer's.

Having witnessed so many friends and a boyfriend die from this disease over the past few decades, I must say— you know nothing of how horrific this disease is. To live through or to witness.

The only reason it is, now, a survivable disease is nothing short of medical miracles— but it is particularly offensive to downplay - or even to equivocate - on its horrors. Keep in mind that the vast majority of those with HIV/AIDS cannot afford effective treatment to mitigate the disease, and, thusly, will die horribly from it.

We should always check our privilege. Not everyone in this world will ever get modern medical care. It’s something we all must work towards.

I specifically said that it IS horrible, but so is dying from cancer, and so is dying from Alzheimer's, etc.

AIDS is not a simple disease, but a constellation of effects and ills. It can provoke cancer (so can the meds), and it can also provoke early-onset Alzheimer’s.

It’s much worse than either.

I worked in the specialty AIDS ward in St. Stephen's hospital in London (before any meds were available).

AIDS has a devil's banquet of particular cruelties as the diseases it kills with are many, some are particularly horrific, and they overlap so that the comorbidity of all this horrible shit happening at once is itself an overriding cruelty.

Sometimes it goes on forever, and also I watched buff fit vibrant people burst out in painful cancerous lesions and waste away to a stick figure in a month.

AIDS is a concentration camp not a prison, unless you have the best meds and care.

I know, it's horrible, but so is Alzheimer's and a zillion others.

How did Roy Cohn die?

AIDS. For such a devout and pernicious homophobe, he turned out to be gay, himself. And, fucking around with other men - without condoms in the 80s - was a terribly reckless practice. Of course, Roy Cohen could never imagine it happening to him, yet it did. It was his final indignity, and one of the most amazing forms of irony in practice in recent history.

Ah, ok, thanks. Now that you mention it, that rings a bell. I understand better what you meant with your earlier post. Thanks.

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Sometimes I forget how many younger people are here on lemmy, and all you kids may not get the older references.

Sad to say, but the Republicans have been absolute fuckfaces since the Nixon administration.

I'd say before, read up on that trashbag Goldwater for example. And he was their voice of sanity!

And it’s extremely disturbing as to how far the Overton window has shifted to the right when compared to that crazy.

From Wikipedia: "According to Roger Stone, Cohn's "absolute goal was to die completely broke and owing millions to the IRS. He succeeded in that."[64]" Cohn died (August 6, 1986) of complications related to AIDS, while in complete denial about that fact.

I don’t wish that upon him, but I will read his obituary with unbridled glee.

Sadly, as much as I hate Roger Stone, I cannot wish that upon him.

That's too bad... Here, I'll do it for you.

imprison “former Attorney General Bill Barr

So I guess it's not all bad.

It's the tip of the iceberg though. If they're ready to imprison on of their own, imagine what they'll do to anyone on the other side of the aisle.

The POS Stone should stand in front of mirror and say, "he has to go to prison." That mofo is a sick lunatic neo-Nazi.

Watching that video, Stone is either in the midst of a mental health crisis or has had a generous helping of Bolivian marching powder. Either way, what a weirdo.

I see several comments wondering why Stone hasn't been put in prison. He was, but Trump pardoned him (and a bunch of others)

From his Wikipedia page:

On January 25, 2019, Stone was arrested at his Fort Lauderdale, Florida, home in connection with Robert Mueller's Special Counsel investigation and charged in an indictment with witness tampering, obstructing an official proceeding, and five counts of making false statements. In November 2019, a jury convicted him on all seven felony counts. He was sentenced to 40 months in prison. On July 10, 2020, days before Stone was scheduled to report to prison, Trump commuted his sentence. On August 17, 2020, he dropped the appeal of his convictions. Trump pardoned Stone on December 23, 2020.

I'm about 95% this fucker planned the first attempt on tRump as a publicity stunt. #OperationKonserve

Roger couldn't plot a circle with a compass.

He'll 100% get away with it. imagine if you or I said shit like this.

Defeatism leads to losing

Oh spear me the philosophy, this is a literal reality. Rich people always get away with illegal shit. Donald Trump rings a bell at all?

Today's performance of Hector Salamanca will be performed by Donald Trump

He's already got the "shitting in ones own pants" part down pact. That's method acting, boyee.

Lets try and guess it y'all!

Rodger Stone in a top hat stands in front of elections office in Pennsylvania as he enters everyone counting ballots runs out of the building. The office combusts. Rodger Stone exits the building to Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. In unison, "Rodger Stone?! Again?!? How could we have guessed this would happen?!"

Trump can't even spell "Justice Department".

"Some are calling it "juicetice" even, we say "juicy juice" sometimes you know we call it even - we really do folks and you know that and I know that and you know that, okay? Romanians are reaping, okay they are reaping and they are raping the antelopes and the democrats are just laughing at us folks... And if you elect Harris the hairy butt Harris, and some are calling her that, you hear it's being said, I don't necessarily think she's a hairy butt Harris, but maybe she is if they're saying it, okay... Oh shit, a balloon!"

Lot going on there! Let's stop and appreciate the interviewer. He came off as a passionate and "educated" supporter, didn't press too hard, well handled. LOL, and despite the gay lisp, Stone thought they were on the same side. C'mon, you gotta be suspicious of a gay man pumping you for answers on how to throw an election for Trump. Stone was certainly drunk.

One thing he was honest about: Those 62 cases of election fraud were not heard. And no evidence was brought before the courts. Because every one of Trump's lawyers, when asked if they were alleging election interference and/or if they had evidence, bailed. (OK, I think one was heard and Trump got 6 votes somewhere in PA.) Throw that at your election denier friends and family. Pretty fucking damning when even Trump appointed judges wouldn't even hear the cases.

Another solid Stone point; It's not about the federal government, it's about the states. These people aren't stupid, they know how the game is played. I believe a man once said, "All politics is local."

Anyhow, I'll vote in person. And armed. Y'all can count on the "authorities" to do the right thing, but I'll have serious questions for any red hats milling around.