New Speaker Mike Johnson Blamed School Shootings on the Teaching of Evolution

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Nice suit he's wearing there.

I believe according to his own rules you can stone him to death for mixing two different fibres.

I'll bet he's also eaten shellfish, and mixed meat with dairy.

He looks like the kind of guy that would enjoy a lukewarm milk steak.

Isn’t that in the Torah? I have never met a Christian who didn’t mix meat with dairy, that’s Judaism. Imagine Christian America if you told them they can’t eat cheeseburgers lmao. Actually, I think that might be the best way to beat religion in America. Ban cheeseburgers on religious grounds. Fat white balding men the nation over will revolt, once their arteries clear up from not eating burgers, that is.

Well, it's in Leviticus. Which is in the Old Testament in the bible that these fuckheads still espouse. And before anyone comes along and says: "But, Jesus swept all that away!!!" Remember that wingnuts still cite Leviticus (20:13, to be precise) as justification for persecuting homosexuals.

Here's the trick. Jesus swept away the conviction rules but not the sin rules. As in some things aren't bad per se, they're just rules to show your devotion. Jesus made is so you don't have to do those things anymore.

Now, what's bad and what's an arbitrary rule? Who the fuck knows? It's a free pass to have your own rules.

That makes sense, thanks. It’s been a couple decades since I’ve set foot anywhere Christian, and I hope to continue that streak for a few more, so I’d rather ask you than a Christian 😂

Isn’t that in the Torah?

Yes, it's in Exodus. Exodus is part of the Torah, as well as the Old Testament, along with Leviticus. The Torah is the first 5 books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy)

Leviticus (11:9-12) is where shellfish are banned, mixed seed or fabrics (19:19) It is where modern Christians cherry-pick their justifications on being anti-LGBTQ. (Lev. 18:22, 20:13)

Point is, they cherry-pick from the Old Testament when it suits them, and if you look at the rest of the rules in the books they reference that they ignore (e.g. tattoos, touching pig skin, eating pork, shellfish, etc. etc. ) it's totally fair game to point out the rules they ignore in the same books as the ones they cite.

Just like the constitution, republicans only pay attention to the parts of the bible that they agree with.

It’s all arbitrary and stupid and differentiating between Abrahamic faiths is a waste of breath

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Pretty sure we learn evolution in the rest of the world, and um we don't have school shootings, again this is a very American problem

Yeah but america is just too special and so teaching evolution has that magic effect on people there.

God just doesn't care about the other countries as much.

most Americans can't even comprehend the rest of the world doesn't have a walgreens on every corner let alone how we look on in horror while they defend the rational need to be armed

He's in a room full of people that were also taught evolution. How is he not cowering in fear under the desk one of his fellow congresspeople won't shot him? Maybe, just maybe, evolution has nothing to do with it?

Misleading headline: if you read the article and watch the video, he actually blames school shootings on the lack of moral education, with merely a reference to evolution teaching as an example of amoral atheism in the classroom.

So it's not a cartoonish slogan, it's actually a fairly standard fascist talking point.

And people say, ‘How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?’ Because we’ve taught a whole generation, a couple generations now of Americans, that there’s no right or wrong, that it’s about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there’s nobody sacred to whom it’s owed. None of this should surprise us.

What's the point of this post? You've tried to made a distinction without a difference. He literally blamed school shootings on the fact of teaching evolution.

It's an apt editorialisation, but it's not the whole story. The difference is the full quote will sound reasonable enough to a lot of people with a religious background. For instance, I can see my grandparents nodding a long to this, as they mentally insert their own specifics in place of "evolution did it."

It's not so easily dismissed as just saying the crazy thing outright, without padding.

Just when I honestly can’t think conservatives could go any further out of their way to embarrass America than they already do….

They elect people like [INSERT GENERIC WEALTHY WHITE MAN].

Obama would like to have a word.

Obama is a Democrat. I doubt many conservatives voted for him

At this point, I think most people who qualify as merely conservative are Democrats. The Republican party in general has moved far right of "conservative" and well into "fanatical".

They elect people like [INSERT GENERIC WEALTHY WHITE MAN].

Obama's non-white and was elected, but i keep forgetting the rule of all evil is cis white (rich) males. My bad.

Obama's non-white and was elected

But not by conservatives, which is what the comment you replied to said.

Try doing more reading and less sassy quipping.

And lessen the quality of the internet? Surely you jest.

Yeah he's stupid, he's a Republican, what do you expect? This is their whole party. The dumbest people from society all brought together by nonsense conspiracy theories, selfishness, and wilful ignorance.

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Fuck off with your religion. Your god is a fiction invented by a conman for the explicit purpose of relegating you to the lower strata of society. Idiot.

I think Biden and Harris should not be in the same state at once, much less the same plane. Can't afford to lose both at once.

How school shooting becomes symbol of America's freedom is beyond comedy.

It's not like he was going to blame his supporters.

Exactly, or blame organizations with lobbyists who give money.

Don't understand it, so it's evil and the cause of all my problems

That thing with a super easy cause and solution actually is caused by this completely unrelated thing that I personally really dislike!

And since I have had very little education about anything at all, and the little education I did receive was mostly focused on nonsensical goat herders stories from 2000 years ago, you know I must be right!

wrong sub; not mild

I know. It's Extremely Infuriating. But I found only one community for Extremely Infuriating that appears to be a ghost town.

Which is why I posted this here.

Let's instead teach the praise to the biggest killer of all time: god.

He's a male version of Marge Traitor Greene

How much evidence is needed in the US to put someone in the loony bin?

I've never heard of anyone being shot because I learned why I had black hair. Hint: I inherited it from my dad.

I remember when I first learned the theory that we humans may have evolved from monkeys and grabbed my dad's 22 he used to have from the gun vault and went on a rampage. Totally happened, I swear. It was February 31st, 198457 AD.

All jokes aside, that sounds like a very braindead take to blame evolution instead of looking at the root of the problem.

If Republicans DIDN'T believe this they would NOT have voted for him!

School shootings are caused by people not guns, evolution or anything else.

To reduce school shootings you need to address mental health

Well actually they're caused by people with guns. Nothing wrong in doing something about both.

Not defending or excusing this dip shit at all. But this was 7 years ago when he said this. The world was pretty different 7 years ago.

Yeah, he was a young and spry... *checks notes* 44 years old back then. I'm sure now that he's matured, he's changed his opinion.