Youtube Depends on Ads to work

Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech to Mildly Infuriating@lemmy.world – 262 points –

Seriously launched the app (by accident today) and what is this? They're trying to play the victim from the big bad ad blockers saying all they're doing is trying to show an ad at the beginning of video, and then I see all of this crap.

This was after a non-skippable ad at the beginning followed by a totally real "survey" that it wanted me to fill out, one interruption so far in the content, and now three ads on the screen. That's 45% of the screen dedicated to ads. Freaking ridiculous. "But please turn off your ad blocker".

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Google, currently embroiled in an anti-trust lawsuit for having too much control over the internet, is pleading poverty. How amusing.

Aw come on, Google is just a little down on their luck is all. Besides they only made close to $300,000,000,000 this year. Barely enough to put food on the table! /s

Ads pay miniscule amounts per view.. I've heard it said the £12/month sub is about hundreds of times what they get from ad revenue per user. So they spam them everywhere.. the more ads the better.

Which means people block the ads because they're obnoxious, and they make nothing..

which in turn makes them add more ads, which makes more people block them, which makes them add more ads... and the cycle continues.

Honestly if they stuck, and I mean actually stuck to "You know what, one ad, beginning of the video, unskippable, and the rest of the video (and content below, and everything) will be ad free until you start a new video - I'd do it. I'd honestly be okay with that. But it's just so overbearing, everywhere is meant to draw your eye to ads, so no, I'll do everything I can to get around them.

Or if they went back to their old advertisement model, remember when you used to get in line advertisements that played at the bottom of the video. I remember those they weren't intrusive to the video content and you still saw them. It wasn't obnoxious as hell and I would bd ok with that

Those inclined things drove me nuts. Might be a cultu thing in terms of how tv works.

I have seen recordings of American tv where things like that would advertise the next show so I guess people got stained to mote or less ignore them.

It's not a thing that caught on here. At least not while I still had a tv.

That's one of the reasons I'm ok paying for premium. Creators get paid more.

Or you could pay for Nebula instead of the company causing the problem. Or you could contribute to their Patreon.

Depends on the ad and how much you use the premium...

I've watched so much they would've absolutely made more money showing me ads (based on my best guess for how much margin they should make on ads, which I think I can estimate pretty well, vs premium as I know less about costs etc. there) but I guess it's not the case for everyone

Well, since they started with this adblock shame nonsense, I can tell you that my ad revenue has been in steady decline, despite views being the same or higher than before this racketeering went into effect.

So whatever they think they're doing is backfiring on content creators.

Google literally has to ruin everything it touches by constantly trying to change things.

Firefox and uBlock works great, here. Not only do you not get ads, but it cuts down on the tracking and metrics a lot, too. Oh, and you can play stuff in the background. You know, because you own your devices and you can do whatever client side stuff you want, right?

if you're on android do yourself the favour of downloading Newpipe Sponsorblock and just import your subscriptions.

If you're on a rooted Android, ReVanced is a great option. It patches the YT app to behave like Premium, removes a lot of annoyances and integrates SponsorBlock and the Dislike API.

You don't at all need to root your phone to run ReVanced. You can easily patch and install without root.

Ah, so that's probably only needed when you use the rename app feature? Because it complained about microG missing after launching the YT app with the default patch selection so I had to use the mount installation method, which requires root (I think).

Good to know!

It's been a while before I had to reinstall. I think the MicroG .APK is maybe is installed separately from ReVanced?? Sorry I can't remember. But yeah you haven't ever needed root to use it.

Is the Simpsons good again?

It is not.

How much of it have you watched in recent years? What happened on the episodes you watched?

It sure is funny how many people that haven't actually watched the show since like season 6 still sound off about it like they have any idea what its currently like.

I've tried. Marge's voice is like nails on a chalkboard. Most of the voice actors are so old they don't sound like the characters at all anymore. At least they stopped doing the trendy celebrity guest of the week on every episode.

I second this. They're trying so hard to be inoffensive it's eroding the satirical stereotypes that every character is supposed to be. It's a hollow shell of what it once was.

It's so bad, I can't figure out who's still watching the show at this point. But they are, so there must be enough viewers to make it worthwhile for Fox, so maybe I'm the one who is wrong?

No, no. It must be the kids.

(That's a line from an older episode for anyone not a fan of the show)

Well apparently enough people still like it to downvote me lol

Pretty sure it was because of the 'trying to be politically correct' comment.

EDIT: The comment originally said what I quoted, which is now changed to inoffensive. Then the replies to me were deleted.

it’s eroding the satirical stereotypes that every character is supposed to be.

Bets on this being about Hank Azaria no longer voicing Apu?

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Haven't watched the show in years but according to the video there are more standout episodes in recent years - he actually made me want to watch the new season.

I think is Ok, I really liked the episode of Marge accepting that Baby Bart is growing up. The NFT/Snowpiercer part of the Halloween special was also good.

Maybe try some episodes and see for yourself?

YouTuber 20 minute opinion drops, sorry, "video essays" are a dime a dozen and the vast majority have nothing notable to say. Better to just try things for yourself and make up your own mind.

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I got youtube revanced the moment youtube started playing an ad every 2 minutes. Not even exaggeration either, literally every 2 minutes.

That's horrible. Moved from vanced to revanced the moment it was properly working with the manager tool. Had the chance to look at the stock app a couple of days ago. It's not even about the ad-blocking anymore. The stock app is borderline unusable.

Also fun fact: Youtube managed to pull off a cobra-effect with their recent fight on adblocking. That was a fun realisation when I heard of that.

I can't even tell the difference between components. It's a very confusing ui.

I feel extremely uncertain because there are still people who don't use Vanced

Unfortunately ios exists

there is youtube++, haven't tried it because i have an android, but it should have a lot of the features of vanced. And with iOS16 finally (kind of) allowing third party apps, it's not even that hard to install

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To be honest even without ad block most of the videos I watch have almost no ads. Probably because of the type of humor involved but still. Doesn't hurt to had the ad-blocker

Okay then show the ads to the majority of people who accept them by not running any blockers and leave me alone.