What are your experiences with polyamory, first or second hand?

LegionEris [she/her]@feddit.nl to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 134 points –

I personally am in a phenomenally stable polyamorous relationship. I've been married to my wife for 12 years, and she has had the same boyfriend for about half of that time. It's a really fulfilling arrangement for all of us in various ways. We're all genuinely happy and satisfied. I'm kind of casually looking for a boyfriend of my own.

But I feel like I only hear negative stories about other poly experiences. It's always unstable people and situations. It's always two out of three people happy at most. Surely there are other success stories out there, and I just hear the disasters because they're more memorable and fun to tell. Does anyone else have or know a polyamory success story?

EDIT: This blew up a little while I was asleep. I promise I'm at least reading every comment.

EDIT 2.0: ngl I did not expect the trope of polyamory to fix a struggling relationship would be so real. We did just the opposite and are both baffled. Don't use volitility to fight the volitility.

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My housemates are poly and pretty happy about it.

It's a bit of a logic puzzle:

  • I live in a house with A, B, and C.
  • A and B are married.
  • B is also dating J, who lives in a big complicated house with lots of people, including their partner K.
  • Separately, C is dating X.
  • X is married to Y; X is also dating Z.
  • I don't know Y or K well enough to know if they have other partners, but I suspect so.
  • No, I am not dating anyone on this list.

As far as I'm aware, there's no current polycule link between AB and C; nor between any of them and me.

Everyone in this list is in their 30s or 40s, and almost all are some flavor of queer; at least two are also trans. There are no kids in the picture, although we know other poly people in the neighborhood who do have kids.

It's all quite cheerful and civilized. Compersion is totally a thing. Also, fortunately people's food preferences aren't complicated when everyone's over for dinner. If anybody starts dating someone who doesn't like mushrooms, that's gonna be a problem.

Dammit I don't care what you get up to with who, I just want to know how many people I'm cooking for.

Please keep it civil, no under the table touching.

I'll tell you what. When I was young, the idea of (ethically) dating more than one person seemed interesting and exciting.

I'm 40, and just reading about X's part in this had me recoiling in horror at the amount of work it would be to be married and dating two other people. I hope they're unemployed or part time, because those relationships sound like a full-time job.

It sounds like it. But in practice? Not really?

As that's assuming every partner gets the same amount of attention as in a mono relationship, but your partner(s) has other partners, they can hang out with someone else when you are busy or need some time for yourself. How much time you spend with your partner(s) is very flexible.

In fact, in my polycule, people tend to actually get more alone time, because you are not the sole person fulfilling your partner's romantic needs. It's remarkably flexible, and, while it may need some planning and/or making sure you tend to your relationships, in my case it feels remarkably straightforward and freeing.

It's a thing I like a lot, actually. Not feeling like I am the sole person responsible for someone's romantic needs. It lifts a fair amount of stress off of me.

This flexibility means you can tune a lot of things, into what works for everyone.

My thoughts exactly. It just seems like SO MUCH WORK. It's difficult enough balancing a career, children and keeping one relationship healthy.

I should really think more about compersion. It's an idea that I think and talk about frequently, but it's a term my brain hasn't yet held for the long term. But I have huge amounts of compersion. I get so excited when good things happen to the people I care about. Our polyamory thrives on how happy it makes me to see my wife in that happy, lovey way with someone. I am just as delighted that my best friend was recently promoted to AM as I am that I was promoted to key lead with her. Compersion is a big part of my life that I should give more space and respect to express itself.

It took me until this deep in the thread to realize compersion wasn't a typo lol. Thanks for introducing me to a new term

How is your own dating life affected by this? Are you mono? Are the people you date weirded out or put off by this arrangement at all?

Also, I need this turned into a diagram!

I'm not at the moment, but if I were dating, it would be within a poly-friendly social context. I'm not in this space by accident; it's actually what makes sense to me.

God, this thread is a breath of fresh air. Every time the topic came up on reddit, you had the same core of bitter whiny losers reciting the same archetype of the rejected and resentful guy stuck at home while his GF was out 'cheating' on him, and insisting that this was the reality in every single case.

I'm mono myself, but it's nice to read various experiences here of poly relationships.

I personally think i'm too selfish to survive in a poly environment though, and also I'm not really that interesting of a person in general - preferring time alone mostly.

Poly requires a ton of trust and communication, so for me it would fall down quickly with the wrong kind of partner(s)... especially as it takes me a while to trust others

I actually consider myself a selfish person. But I experience huge amounts of compersion. It makes me so happy when good things happen to the people I care about. It's selfish of me to want more than one partner and to revel in my wife's other relationship. But I'll be damned if senseless or traditional moralizing is going to stop me from being or making people happy.

Omg yes. This is the primary discussion of polyamory, and it drives me crazy. None of that common description looks like my life.

I'm monogamous myself, but personally know two different polyamorous relationships. 1 is pretty damn good, and the other is rife with drama. Besides that, I tangentially know of others, and all of those are rough, though since I'm hearing of these from mutual friends and acquaintances, I could just be getting the juicy drama and none of the good parts. Could very well be that my info on those are bad

It does seem to mirror the general expectation, though, that most are unstable, and I wouldn't call it surprising. Relationships are complicated, and anything that has more moving parts is going to be more complicated. I'm not trying to suggest here that monogamy is the way to go by any means--different people have different wants and needs, and some people are just good for polyamory. I just think that a working arrangement like this is tough to pull off

Besides, this gets asked a lot about polyamorous relationships, but there are so many fucked heteronormative relationships, and you never see the argument that monogamy is wrong, so yeah. Just whatever makes you happy

Most of the heteronormative relationships I've known of or experienced were rife with drama and problems, so I would assume poly relationships would be, too. Even if the rate is the same, you'll be at least twice as likely to end up with a shitty relationship in a poly relationship (with at least one partner), right?

Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with poly relationships, only that there's plenty wrong with people.

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Yeah you can hold a bad traditional relationship together with duct tape and societal expectations indefinitely. You shouldn’t but there’s no kaboom or juicy details. Polyamory has more room for the failure to be catastrophic instead of a slow long decay to a couple snidely commenting on each other in a retirement home.

True although I think most relationships are unstable and have drama particularly when young, which is why people can move through so many. Most people have multiple relationships in their lives until they find someone that works (or keep going). That's seen as normal.

I think there is a bias when people look at poly relationships as they seem novel and if they fail it's easy to say it was because it was poly. But if a 2 partner relationship fails it's "normal" and we accept all the reasons like "I didntnlove them anymore" or "we grew apart" etc.

There’s also the fact that in polyamory ending is not necessarily a failure for a relationship. Monogamy has an expectation of forever or certain circumstances. But in polyamory it’s sometimes acknowledged that a casual relationship can end in everyone having gotten everything they wanted out of it and deciding to move on.

Yeah, I just think the poly relationship has more places where things can go wrong. In a monogamous one, you need to two people who like each other and are compatible. In a poly, even with only 3 people, you need A and B to be compatible, A and C, and C and B. Adding one extra person into the mix complicates the relationship 3-fold depending on the nature of those relationships. They don't all have to be in a relationship with one another, but you're still adding more avenues for drama and collapse in one relationship, not to mention how one relationship could impact the other. If A is having drama with C, the frustration of that failing connection could also impact their relationship with B. I think it's easier to fail not by any sort of moral failing of polyamorous people, only that the nature of those relationships is inherently less stable through its myriad of moving parts

But there is for sure an element of bias, where heteronormativity gets a pass for being the standard

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Back when me and my wife started dating, it was a long distance relationship and we agreed that it's OK if we see other people too. Neither of us did, but I feel like "expanding relationship" should only happen when your primary deal is in healthy state and not to try fix issues in it by dating someone else.

Yep, 'opening up' to fix a bad relationship is as terrible an idea as having a child to fix one.

Poly relationships are fine and great and positive, but they absolutely need a solid, healthy foundation to rest on.

Yeah the way I like to describe that is that nonmonogamy can solve relationship problems but only the ones caused by needing nonmonogamy. Alternatively learning poly philosophies has done wonders for some monogamous people I know. They may not get compersion from a partner seeing someone else, but they do have the words to recognize and appreciate the happiness of being a loved one’s joy. And they communicate great too.

I'm poly and am now in a monogamous marriage but was in a few poly relationships prior. I'm 99.5% okay with this.

Poly was fun but had high overhead - there's a certain amount of work required for any relationship and it seems to increase to some extent as you get closer with someone. Two partners was literally double the work, sometimes more. A lot of people thought I was a swinger which always pissed me off. A couple of non-poly girlfriends thought it gave them carte blanche to fuck around on the side while I was staying monogamous for them. Classy.

My very last poly partner was simply horrid and ultimately turned me off to poly. Successful polyamory requires trust and communication. We had been unintentionally monogamous for awhile and it turned out she was not communicating some unfulfilled needs. To be fair, they were valid needs, but I couldn't have known to fulfill them without being told first.

When she and I started dating, we were only seeing each other and had agreed that we'd only consider bringing new people to the relationship if our "core" relationship was solid. That was always my condition in every poly relationship. Years later, without any prior warning, she told me about the issues she had with us and mandated that the only way she'd be willing for us to stay together was if I were to support her starting a relationship with an absolute trainwreck of a human being. He was a socially awkward, late twenties, literally virginal fellow that had never been in a relationship of any kind before and he nailed the cocky, oblivious, "kind of an asshole but projects the blame on you" engineer stereotype on the head so hard you could feel it across county lines. I noped the fuck out so hard. Looking back, my ex had glaring warning signs you could see from space, but I was pretty young and nieve, plus I was madly in love with her even before we started dating. This and an earlier relationship with a narcissistic abuser are the only relationships I regret.

I met my now wife a few months after my ex and I split. She didn't want to do poly and I was pretty burned out on it, so I had no complaints. I do miss it sometimes. I'm a bit of a flirt and I really miss that, the excitement of hitting it off with a new person and all the chemistry and interesting things to learn about them. Still, I wouldn't trade what I have with my wife for all the dates in the world.

Yep, same boat. We've been married for 20+ years, she's had a boyfriend for 5 years or so and occasionally plays with other people, BF's wife's as cool with it as I am, everything's chill.

She left her earrings on the dresser at her boyfriend's place a while back, he sent his wife to drop them back to her and it was just an omg hiiiiii moment for both of them.

I don't understand why it's such a big deal for most people, I really don't. It's so utterly low-stress and completely... ordinary, to my way of thinking.

I've never seen a healthy poly relationship and I've seen many but I still think that it could work given the right circumstances. People already suck at handling a single relationship so statistically handling more is just significantly more difficult not to mention all the externals like community and society as whole.

People already suck at handling a single relationship so statistically handling more is just significantly more difficult

I guess that's a fair point. My wife and I were the stable thing in each other's lives for years before this started. We have a love that can't be stopped and have navigated more together than most couples ever will. Neither of us would have considered a second partner if we thought it could have weakened our foundational relationship. That is what has freed us to have these experiences.

I'm poly, in a closed triad. Basically I live with my two partners and we are all dating eachother. Honestly, it just kinda works. Not much different than "traditional" relationships apart from the fact that even the biggest standard beds barely fit all 3 of us lol

I’ve been with my wife and girlfriend for about 4.5 years. Gf has been married for longer.

Polyamory attracts trainwrecks and hands them a ton of rope which they promptly hang themselves with. We hear about them a lot because they’re loudly collapsing all the time.

We don’t hear about our types because what are we going to do, loudly announce stable long term relationships? Because I am judged as one of those people or a slut or a player or something I’m hesitant to loudly profess my polyamory. My coworkers don’t know that one day a week I don’t go to my regular home when I leave but to my girlfriend’s home where I hang out with her and her kids (whom I’ve been a stable adult fixture in their lives for years) until her husband wakes up for work when I either take her out to dinner, or get some alone time as he watches the kids, or he’s just there hanging out with us, then rather than it being an absolute fuckfest, we either have “I have work in the morning” sex, curl up watching tv, chat alone, or increasingly often chat with her kids because they’ve been needing more attention lately before going to bed. Then the next day I go to work from there. And they also don’t know that that evening my wife is glad that I was there because it’s good for me and she needs some alone time on a regular basis because while she loves me very much I’m a high energy extrovert and she’s a low energy introvert.

Hell my family is uncomfortable with my polyamory except my sister. They can accept that I’m gay and love my wife, but they don’t talk about my girlfriend and are clearly uncomfortable when I talk about her. So I shy away from it. And I don’t go to poly events because they’re full of train wrecks. I don’t filter through partners. I’ve never even had a romantic relationship that was under a year long.

And yeah I’ve had my drama. Casual sex has gone weird. My ex was actually monogamous but she started a triad because I wanted polyamory and that went just terribly. But also I was in my early 20s, similar situations for monogamous relationships aren’t blamed on monogamy but on dumb 20 somethings.

But yeah I’m happy and stable. And I know my wife, gf, and meta would all agree that’s our situation

I have 2 serious partners and I couldn’t be happier! These are the healthiest and most fulfilling relationships I’ve ever had. I love the freedom and autonomy that polyamory affords all of us. Since realizing I’m polyamorous, things have really fallen into place. It just feels right for me.

I recently attended a polyamorous wedding where one pair of individuals in the polycule were formalizing their individual bond/commitment to each other (but both still remaining in the larger structure of the 5-6 person polyromantic/polyamorous constellation.) It was cute! All the other members of the group walked the bride and groom down the aisle and gave cute best-man-style speeches instead of a religious ceremony.

I enjoyed the event and they all seemed really happy.

I can't help but think that this sort of mutual celebration would solve a variety of problems that humans experience.

"I love this person, and I commit not only to them, but to those important to them."

That makes a great deal of sense to me

My wife and I have been poly for going on a decade now and my girlfriend has been part of the equation since damn near the beginning.

My wife, girlfriend & I all jointly own our home together and things have been great!

I (male, cis-het) don't date outside the two of them (I don't have that kind of time!) ... both of the ladies have other partners though, mostly with the goal of them being long term, but like most relationships (poly or mono) they generally fizzle out for one reason or another. Wife has a partner that's been pretty stable for almost a year though and girlfriend has a LDR that's been strong for 5ish years.

We've all "come out" to our family and friends long ago, mostly with no blowback. I am not close with people at my current job, so they don't know, but, I also use the words 'wife' and 'girlfriend' so if they haven't picked up on it, it's not because I'm omitting, I'm just not telling people that don't need to know about my personal life the specifics about my personal life.

If you were to judge monogamy by the shit that pops up in relationship advice threads, people would have a bad impression of it as well!

If you were to judge monogamy by the shit that pops up in relationship advice threads, people would have a bad impression of it as well!

That's the truth.

My day job is FinTech/tax adjacent, so I have to give you collectively (and your collective web of relationships) credit for making the home ownership work. The overwhelming majority of humans can't make tenants in common between two people work.

Personally, I''m not particularly close with my family for other reasons, so being 'out' isn't a real concern - given a wife and girlfriend in that long-term context, I'd write the requisite will / medical POA to be fair, and to ensure that blood relatives aren't executing either.

I'm somewhat close with folks at work, but I WFH for a company that's fairly progressive. One of the people I started with recently asked us to address them in a specific way, and I couldn't be happier for them. If I called my boss "Joe," and they asked me to call them "Mr. Smith", that's no different.

I very much like your strategy of "truthful but no obvious" There isn't a need at work for a full-fledged explanation of my home life, but I also work with good people who don't blink at the miscellaneous terms I (or they) use to describe the people who are important to us. That's how it's supposed to work - we all share what we feel comfortable with, and other people share in our joys/sorrows regarding the same. Only the level of detail changes, really.

I'm curious about the sleeping arrangement. Do you sleep in the same bed with one more than the other? Or different beds? No judgment, just curious.

I switch between the two beds. We'll occasionally all pile into one King size bed, but, at least one person doesn't get a good night's sleep when we do, so, it's not an all the time kind of thing for us.

I've been poly for over a decade. Met my now-wife at a poly event.

Other partners have come and gone for each of us.

A lot of people like to blame non-monogamy for issues between individuals, but, like, if some people can make poly work, that tells me whatever issues were likely caused by problematic individuals, not by polyamory.

Thanks for the input - I agree that poly isn't the problem, people are the problem.

This particular person had to learn the hard way how to say 'I love you, I will not leave you, and with that in mind, I'd like to fuck _____' More difficult than it seems, but hardly a torpedo to the relationship - barring a random announcement out of nowhere.

Everyone always going to polyamory because of a bad relationship in there monogamous relationship is why there's so much bad negativity about it.

It's just consenting adults who love each other.

Still have the same drama and problems of monogamous relationships. But more problems and less problems, yet slightly different ,The same with anything

I shall say this though. DO NOT ADD ANOTHER PERSON BECAUSE OF YOUR FAILING RELATIONSHIP. it won't work. Ever.

I would want to add more but it's so incredibly much my brain can't process and type that much.

DO NOT ADD ANOTHER PERSON BECAUSE OF YOUR FAILING RELATIONSHIP

It's insane to me that this apparently must be said by multiple people with massive emphasis. We only considered this because our relationship was and still is so strong. We just met really young and have a lot of love to give. I don't want to lose my wife or have had only one great romance in my life. She didn't want marrying a woman to mean she would never experience men again. So we share the incredible bounty of love in which we live.

My general rules in a polyamorous relationship. Well guidelines as rules are so just off putting. But as long as it's consensual equitable and pleasurable for all involved, it's ok.

I'm a bit older than my wife, but your point rings true - we also met fairly young, and went through some stuff. That's probably a meaningful part of how and why we are who we are.

Meeting my wife fairly young meant that I got the raw, unfiltered version of her feelings and was able to compare/contrast that with my behavior - and improve it. That led to trust allowing discussion of involving others, and an understanding that neither of us is going anywhere / associated trust.

While I wouldn't necessarily go to bed with all of them, there are a number of people who have deeply impacted my life in distinct ways, and from whom I have learned a great deal. Hell, I don't even like all of them, but that doesn't mean they're not a meaningful part of my life.

Agree with your take on adding another person to solve problems - always a terrible idea.

My idea of 'consenting adults' has morphed significantly between, say, 21 and... my current age. Even the subsets of 'consent' and 'adult' have morphed. But at the end of the day, honesty is all that we have.

I adore spending time with my wife - whether we're 'doing' something' together, or doing individual things we can talk about later.

Poly means never running out of topics of conversation, or ways to understand each other.

'Why her?' really means 'Our relationship evolves, as all relationship should, what interest you about her and how can I support you?"

That "how can I support you?" question is critical, and we've been married long enough that I never doubt the legitimacy of the question.

I've been in a polyamorous relationship with my wife for 23 years. We started poly and still are. Not counting relationships that lasted a date or two she has had three relationships that lasted between Hall a year and a year and a half. I've had one long term that lasted eight years.

We aren't the jealous types so it's been mostly good with the normal relationship ups and downs combined with the elevated logistical problems that are inherent in poly relationships.

Fori us it's great and we wouldn't have it any other way. I'll also say there is nothing like waking up on the weekend to the sound of your wife and girlfriend laughing in the kitchen while having coffee.

No real first hand experience. I kinda interacted with people that were /are poly, but wasn't part of their group.

But the thing I noticed about poly groups regarding the kind of stability that would be a success in any objective view, is that there's usually a core few that comprise the true group, with anyone else being kinda replaceable. It's usually either a "throuple", or two pairs, and those core relationships are what really matters when there's any trouble.

Imo, that makes sense. In a real world sense, nobody loves everyone equally. It might get close, but we as a species just aren't that controlled in our emotions. They're shifting and tied to so many different memories that it's barley possible to have comparable levels of love, much less exactly the same.

And, there's the issue of numbers and work. If a couple has X amount of work to maintain, a third person doesn't turn that into X+1, it turns it into X^3, because you have AĂ—B, the first two, then you have AĂ—C, BĂ—C, and, AĂ—BĂ—C. The dynamics of each pair of individuals is the same, but you add the dynamics of the group to that. Add a 4th person, and you get X^4, and so on. So, the larger the group gets, the harder it is to actually maintain every relationship at all, much less equally.

But! I know two poly groups that have been stable for a long time. One since the mid nineties, the other since 2003 (officially, but they got together informally a few years before that). The older group stabilized out at five people back around 98, when a couple that had joined in decided it wasn't working for them.

The other group is essentially a foursome, though they tend to rotate through twosomes over time. Like, one couple spends a few months more focused on each other, then the other two people either do the same or float a little as individuals without as much group interaction. But they're all bisexual as well as poly, so there's that helping out a little; everyone is into everyone romantically and sexually, so there's less chance of someone feeling left out.

Both groups have kids, btw. Which can get a little tough on the kids in school, but damned if it isn't a plus at home. Like, those kids never lack for someone to help them, give them affection or discipline, or anything. The oldest boy from the longer lasting group is out on his own now, and doing well for himself.

The only other poly group I know well enough to have picked up details about their arrangements went back a lot further, back into the sixties when they met. Which is a success, if you ask me, but there's only the one lady left now, and that's fucking brutal to lose three partners that you love like that. I don't know if it's any worse than losing a monogamous partner or not, but holy hell has she been through some pain over the last two decades.

I call them a success though. They went through fourty-plus years together, raised kids, lived life, and stuck together. I didn't meet any of them until one of the guys had a stroke, back before I got hit with the disability stick and had to quit working. I was a CNA, and when he had the next stroke, they asked if I could come back, so I got to know them a good bit. But they'd lost one of their group between times to cancer.

For myself, I don't think I could handle that part. I know that if my wife dies before me, it's going to break me. I can't imagine going through that two or three (or more) times.

Which is probably not the most pleasant way to end this comment, being a bit less happy than maybe you were wanting. But I figure if one group of people can live poly together long enough for that, then polyamory is nothing to dismiss, and it's certainly proof that it can be satisfying and good.

My wife and I talked about it a lot before deciding we were both cool with the other having safe and responsible adventures. In over a decade it has never caused us any grief. Communication is essential and if your relationship isn't "stable" IMO it suggests a real communication problem - adding unrelated complications to the dynamic will never solve those.

So maybe not exactly a success story but I wouldn't call it a disaster either. I don't view my current experience to be negative even if it is extremely difficult for me.

I'm poly, technically have been most my life but most my relationships have been functionally mono until 3 or 4 years ago. I'm in a hard place right now, 6 months ago my polycule split, two months ago my anchor partner very suddenly broke up with me, my nesting partner of over 10 years has stopped physically interacting with me.

I thought I was insulated from heartbreak because I could fallback on other partners while I get back on my feet, and I did actually do that a couple times with non core partner breakups. Apparently the opposite can happen where all your partners drop away in rapid succession and you have to deal losing all the people who would have supported you.

I'm happy I'm poly. It is difficult but so is being mono in different ways. The love I had when the polycule was functioning I can't describe that to people who haven't had it before. I had a great run of about 3 years of memories I'm going to hold very dearly. I'll rebuild my relationships with new people and everything I've learned here will make things better for me in the future.

All of my experiences are from the outside looking in.

  1. was super destructive with a single domineering individual that led to a divorce and a suicide.
  2. was fantasy fulfillment and led to a great deal of strife.
  3. was kinda positive in that it lasted until the one partner passed and the relationship sorta dissolved. Which is sad but understandable.

So outside of highschool i have seen 3 kicks at the can with only one "success". The failed relationships did so in spectacular fashion which is why i know far more about them due to their violence.

Wife and I have always been open to the idea, tried it a few times, all positive experiences, even the challenging ones. We dated this single female friend together for a while, we've gone to sex clubs (there's a great, super positive one in my city). I feel like it's made us more honest and open with each other.

If I could recommend a book, "The ethical slut" There's good tips and info in there, I liked it, though it's a bit old. "More than two" is newer and great as well

My wife and I are poly. Neither of us have found a long term person yet (Wife isn't really looking because she is graysexual and doesn't really want any additional deep emotional connections), but we've met a few great people who probably could have worked but for one or two incompatibilities. I've seen enough over the past two years to see that it definitely can work.

Wife isn't really looking because she is graysexual and doesn't really want any additional deep emotional connections

This kinda describes my wife's boyfriend's wife. (That was just fun to type out) Basically, because of the place and way she was raised, she didn't understand that she was ace until she had two kids, and her sex life continued to exist. She was/is more or less done with that part of her life. She has two kids and a husband and a home, and that's why she was having sex to begin with. As long as she has those things, she doesn't care that her husband does things she does not enjoy with some other women. She's happy with the way her life is. Plz don't make her add sex back into the equation.

Poly was actually my wife's idea for many of the reasons you list above. It's not just sex though, my wife is also not a touchy feely person, and I am, as she calls me, a cuddle monster. Thankfully we are good at communicating and deeply love each other, and so were able to navigate all of this without arguing, yelling, etc...

Married 13 yrs as of the end of October. We've played with others, and have standing permission to "get things going," but I find the wedding ring to (understandably) be a turnoff. My personal preferences mean that it's difficult to meet people I'm interested in and who are likely to believe any reasonable explanation for 'even though I'm wearing a ring, we are all on the same page.'

It is by definition much easier for my wife / both of us, to find a man who is both interested and dealing in good faith than for me to approach a woman successfully.

I don't harbor any jealousy or concern with regards to my wife, she simply has an easier time with it. One can blame that on the lies that cheating men have told over many centuries, I'm sure.

I've encountered a number of women in whom I'd be interested, but... I refuse to take my ring off just to have a chance at meeting someone. Not just because "reasons" and "ethics," but also because I know for a fact that up-front disclosure is the better path.

"No, I wasn't wearing a ring when I met you, but I'm married," is not the way to start off a poly relationship from where I sit. It is, however, an excellent way to scare off the folks who are open to the same.

Neither of us is looking for threesomes per se, and neither of us is willing to dissemble and then later ask forgiveness of the third party.

Haven't posted all that much on the topic, so... Fuckit. We've been married for almost fifteen years. We found a play partner around the five-year mark. That lasted as long as it lasted, and was a great deal of fun - both in person and via internet, subject to collective needs. That person could have handled things better, and I could have handled their less than ideal behavior better. I own my part, there. It wasn't intended to be long term, and that's fine - it introduced us to both the lifestyle and the risks, and I am cognizant of what I did right and what I did wrong at the tine.

We're in a more liberal town than where we spent much of our marriage, but it's still tough to meet people. Some of that is due to my WFH arrangement, as I don't get out as much as 'normal' folks, but I would absolutely not sleep with someone I worked with anyway - I'm a professional, it has the potential to get really ugly, and could very well ruin my reputation.

Dating sites have proven unhelpful, though much of that was while living in "Kettlecorn, KS" where my wife grew up. Trying to do this in the midwest is 'hard mode' to say the least.

I'm not even looking for women a fraction of my age (and I'm not that damn old to begin with), but any introduction brings with it the risk of judgement / 'If you weren't married...'

I consider it a damn shame that consensual poly is not more mainstream - people will meet people, and have chemistry, and have sex as a result. Advance consent, in whatever form the couple finds appropriate, prevents literally all of the unpleasantness, feelings of betrayal, etc.

Not an expert at this stuff, but also fairly sure my experience is not incredibly outside the norm.

I knew two groups of polys. One was a success story and did very well with a big family full of kids. The other one broke up when it was clear two of them cared more about each other than a third. So I'm guessing it's like every type of relationship- sometimes it works out well, sometimes it's a disaster.

I'm polyamorous myself, with a girlfriend of about 18 months and another of nearly a year. Both my relationships are stable and very fulfilling, and also relaxed and laid-back. It takes more communication to have it work but for me I can't even imagine living any other way, polyamory feels right for me and me and my partners are happier than we've ever been.

Granted, my relationships aren't a case of opening an existing partnership, but rather I talked about the fact that I'm polyamorous to each partner very early on before we even considered a relationship. Most drama I've seen in polyamory comes from one partner in a monogamous pair wanting "more" and so the decision is pretty one sided, and neither is willing to really put in the work and communication that healthy polyamory requires. Every polyamorous person I know that started their relationships as polyamorous is healthy and happy in their partnerships.

We opened up an existing relationship, but it was more my idea for her to have a boyfriend. I knew she romanticized affairs and infidelity. I knew that her experience of being with a man romantically and physically is meaningfully different from how we are together. And I've just never been that sort of possessive, so I encouraged her to seek out something I couldn't give her

I'm really happy it's working out for you! I'm not saying that all existing partnerships opening to polyamory are doomed to fail or are inferior in any way, just that from what I've seen they're much harder to pull off, possibly because people tend to open relationships for the wrong reasons. But when it does work out and everyone involved is entirely on board and is willing to put in the work, they can absolutely be beautiful and healthy relationships.

Personally I've only heard of very sad stories. Two out of three at best as you said, when not even one out of three. Of course, statistically it must work for someone. Call yourself lucky. :)

I have a family member in a throuple. They dated their partner for a few years before dating someone together, who later attended their wedding. They've been a throuple for about 8 years now and all seem pretty happy.

I've had a couple Poly experiences.

None of them are particularly happy memories, but it has nothing to do with Poly itself and everything to do with the fact that the only women that are attracted to me, or that are even interested in talking to me, seem to be abusers with a plethora of mental illness issues.

Not much. I'm what many might call a relationship anarchist and this can translate into polyamory, especially when QPR's are a part of the equation (same with my closest friends but in a more meta way), but I'm not in any and never have been. I was offered the chance though because a classmate in middle and high school began aspiring to a polygamist relationship (LGBT relationships were already a thing and I guess my class got ideas) and managed to appeal to a bunch of other classmates. The core classmate of the relationship then had to move though (the family's mom got a job somewhere else) and that created a weird sense of withdrawal among the participants.

I worked with a married couple many years back. Then they had a kid. So they split their shifts since daycare costs to damn much for 2 Perkins cooks. So they very little of each other. So they went to an open relationship model because "needs". One of the male managers known for hitting in and fucking all waitresses (because he controlled their schedule...) took the opportunity to start plowing her too. The husband... Thought he had game and thought he could get someone at work. He couldn't. So that had to be a fun dynamic. The husband and wife's manager working side by side with both of them and the manager was having a baby with one of his other conquests that also work there. Their marriage quickly fell apart and people's opinion of her and the manager and the husband took a leap off a cliff. Before all of that they were a very happy couple and great friends to be with. Afterwards they were all insufferable and the child pays for all this.

Knew another couple, married, with for kids. They moved to a open relationship model... Probably for plethora of reasons, Part of me believes that she misses her early twenties party girl that she used to be. Turns out being in mid-30s and having four kids and being married really limits the type of guys that you get. Her former husband moved on with life. And she now has a fifth kid with someone that was a temp boyfriend.

I was involved in a nonconsensual, clandestine polyamorous relationship once. It sucked, broke my fucking heart.

That’s not polyamory, friend. That’s called cheating.

It didn't involve the assistant manager of a cheap motel, did it? I guess if you were the person I know who had that experience, you'd probably recognize my name and story.

As far as I’m aware in included a fitness instructor and a mechanical engineer. There may have been a motel manager in there somewhere that I just never learned about.

I tried (long distance) dating a poly dude in a situation where he had a long term live-in boyfriend and got me and a trans girl to start dating him around the same time. He wanted a polycule to work out and it seemed plausible-ish for a few months, but the communication was atrocious. Everyone liked the central poly dude and I tried getting along with the other two, but it was clear they were just interested in the main dude. Turned into a mega jealousy situation between all of us which blew up horribly and spectacularly.

In a good monogamous relationship now, but I wouldn’t even try a poly thing again. It requires a lot of communication, moving parts, and if someone is slightly less than truthful it’s probably doomed to fail lol.

I know of two couples that dabble in it to some extent. One as far as I know is unicorn-hunting, because their rules for it suggest a 3rd member genuinely capturing someone's heart would lead to relationship implosion of epic proportions, and I suspect that couple isn't mature or stable enough to be doing what they're doing without leaving people open for hurt. Not that I have any say in it, lol. But I feel sorry for any thirds that interact with them thinking there's even a chance of them being an equal partner.

The other couple has much better communication skills, and claim they're poly, but as far as I can tell from the outside "poly" has happened as an attempt to save the marriage. Maybe they'll make it work, but I've watched them make some dumb mistakes, and the wife has jealous behaviors when women interact with the husband and a history of bending to his needs before her own so I think even if she says they're poly she might have talked herself into it as a way to attend to him.

I think healthy poly is possible--but it requires extremely mature individuals with exceptional communication skills, and that's rare even in monogamous couples.

I've been in like, 3 or 4 of them so far. I can really see the value in a poly relationship but I find it, that it's incredibly challenging to maintain much less establish one. All of the ones I've been in, was where the individual wanting or orchestrating the poly relationship, was just a flat out cheater who wanted more than they can handle. My limit is no more than 2 other partners. The people I kept finding myself with, practically wanted like several partners too many and it just complicated things.

I'm open to being in a good one but I really don't know nor would I know anything or anyone that'd want a good stable poly relationship.

It sounds like the person you were with would have been better off in an open relationship with someone.rather than labelling it as polyamory or want to pursue polyamory?

I've not been in a ployamerous relationship myself but I'd imagine the hardest part is the time and effort needed to maintain your relationship with each partner?

I could see 2 partners being doable but hard work, but once you go beyond that, then it must get very difficult? Especially if you don't all live together as juggling full time work around making the time and space to maintain very close personal relationships must be very hard.

And my mind boggles when you get to pplyamorpus "networks" where 2 partners may have relationships with other people rather than a shared 3rd partner. I think it would take a lot of honesty and maturity to make that work long term. I don't think I'd be capable of that.

Genuine question. Shouldn't there be love between you and her boyfriend for it to be polyamory ? otherwise isn't it just polygamy ?

Polygamy means being married to multiple people, so no it wouldn’t be called polygamy. Gamos is Greek for marriage.

My understanding is that, If one partner is in a relationship with more than one partner it is polygamy

while if all the partners are in a relationship will all the other partners then it is polyamory

I never considered marriage as a prerequisite for polygamy . because many people are polygamous even in states where polygamous marriages are outlawed.

Then your understanding of these terms is wrong. Polyamory refers to people having multiple relationships (consensually), that's it.

So there's no term distinction between people with multiple separate relationships and those who's relationships are all mutual/shared?

There is, but they all come under the umbrella of polyamory. There's lots of sub categories like "parallel" (where someone's partners don't have much or any contact with each other), "kitchen table" where they're not in a relationship but do talk a lot about scheduling etc, might be friends, and then where everyone is in the same relationship or has independent relationships between everyone in a group. But lots of people use lots of different terms for those things.

Polygamy does mean marriages but has been missed because people didn't have better alternative words. "Menage a trois" is another term not needing marriage but has connotations to some of being mostly sexual and also only cover 3 people.

Polyamory as a word wasn't really widely used until the 90s and it's only really become mainstream in the last maybe 10 years?

Polyamory is much more precise and correct than polygamy.for describing relationships outside marriage. Polygamy is also a legal term very specifically related to marriage laws.

you're delusional

With those two words polyamory, a practice as old as humanity and in every corner of the world, has been..... FINALLY DEBUNKED! I can't believe I was here for the destruction of a lifestyle!

It always fascinates me how eagerly people grasp at the most absurd ideas, if it allows them to evade unpleasant reality

it always fascinates me how eagerly no life losers seek and lash out at people, if it allows them to feel better about themselves

oh you got offended i see

No I just thought it was funny that you actually came back. Mimicking your formatting was a bit of a joke, see. Watch, I'll do it again!

oh you got no punctuation i see