We need to have ownership our own products again. This needs to be enshrined in law.
will 2024 finally be the year of Linux on the car?
It already is. If the car has a monitor, it's probably running Linux as a base.
I found a horrible finding recently. There are some critical infrastructure like power gens that run windows 10 in their hmi
I jailbroke my Mercedes and now it is 1,000,000x better!!!!!!!
[Image of YouTube thumbnail feat. YouTuber with mouth open pointing at car with matrix code in background]
The mouth open part is so common but why it just looks stupid and is now synonymous with clickbait
Yup. I comment and call their cringiness out, especially if it's an older person who shouldn't be acting 8 while providing any kind of educational material (last one was fixing something on a car engine).
By doing so you are engaging with the content which is exactly what the clickbait is supposed to get you to do. Just block them and move on. Any engagment boosts their content.
shit like this should be illegal. the hardware is already there, why pay wall it. or, if it gonna do that, make the product cheaper without the features
They’ll just claim that the base price is n + 5000 and you get it for n because the features are disabled.
but in practice it’s the opposite. electric cars have set the precedent that cars being serviceable only by the manufacturer is OK. ICE automobiles are on their way to being banned in a decade or two. that’s a huge opportunity for automakers to bring practices like these to the wider market, and policy makers will defend them because it’s hard to say “yes to electric cars, but only if …”
The fact that I'm forced to buy a car just to participate in modern life, but then not really own that car is infuriating. I'd rather just have functioning public transit, not this abomination of capitalism that electric cars seem to herald for us.
why pay wall it
Because money!
So much evil. Just so much. And it's expanding, exponentially. Where are the evil levels going to measure at, in another 15 years. I'm too old (cbf learning) to make a meme, but I see lilo and stitch, but over stitches face is all currently existing corporations, and that drawing of the bad levels she drew.
no car should connect to the internet, ever.
Not the first to do this, but that doesn't make it okay.
Here's an idea... When they tell you that on the showroom floor, tell them you're not interested in such shenanigans, and walk out. It worked against BMW, and it'll work against Mercedes too
this is exactly why i will continue to drive my car, which is literally older than me. and if it ever breaks down, if possible, i will buy another toyota with no constant internet connection. i just don't need that kind of extortion in my life.
I’m going to venture to guess that many folks will go the route of Cubans and continuously rebuild their old cars.
why not? if the spare parts are available and people are willing to endure the horrible fuel mileage, let them.
You can buy a lot of gas for the premium you’d pay but buying a brand new car.
Every time I run the numbers to buy a new car vs keeping my 2014 Taco, the Taco wins, even with its abysmal gas mileage.
now imagine that with a 20 year old car whose engine regularly gets 400k km and gets up to 40mpg (around 5-6L/100km). and did i mention that i paid 2000€ for it? why would i now spend 50-100k on an electric car that lasts 20 years tops?
You wouldn't download a car, more horsepower
Wrong slogan, you need the EA Sports one: It's in the game.
You paid for the motor, now let's talk about the using the motor fee, the brakes fee, the windows fee, the turning the radio on fee, the turning the radio off fee, the turning the radio to something other than ABBA fee, the airbag subscription fee and any other thing we can get you for while you happen to be over this particular barrel.
I risk it won't take long for someone to crack it.
Now I'm definitely not getting an electronic car.
There are plenty of good electric cars. Don't buy one with subscription features.
Do you know the market? What would you consider to be the cheapest good option?
It depends on your country, your budget, your definition of good, and your driving needs.
A second hand Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt are more affordable, but don't suit everyone's needs.
An MG4 is a great budget new car, but can be out of some people's price range.
A Polestar 2 is a comfortable option from a manufacturer who cares about the environment.
A Porsche Taycan is a performance car for a fraction of the price of a petrol supercar.
Why would anyone buy that?
When literally every car manufacturer does it and does it on something that is technically a luxury, but most people have already got used to (like heated seats or apple carplay). The public has long revealed that they have basically no immunity towards these sorts of high level collusion tactics. And the government agencies meant to stop it seem to think it only counts if all the car manufacturers met in some sort of 'let's be evil' conference to plan it out, instead of, you know, just copying off what everyone else is doing.
They’re starting this off on the EQS which are usually bought by people less sensitive to money. For them, $1200 for more power will be an afterthought and they’ll pay it. That will get it entrenched before they push it down the stack.
Seriously this kind of behaviour is just bs. Anyways the piracy gang will always find modders. Why why do the bs in the first place.
Oh no! I can’t go from 0 to over the speed limit in less than 3 seconds. What am I going to do‽
We need to have ownership our own products again. This needs to be enshrined in law.
will 2024 finally be the year of Linux on the car?
It already is. If the car has a monitor, it's probably running Linux as a base.
I found a horrible finding recently. There are some critical infrastructure like power gens that run windows 10 in their hmi
I jailbroke my Mercedes and now it is 1,000,000x better!!!!!!!
[Image of YouTube thumbnail feat. YouTuber with mouth open pointing at car with matrix code in background]
The mouth open part is so common but why it just looks stupid and is now synonymous with clickbait
Yup. I comment and call their cringiness out, especially if it's an older person who shouldn't be acting 8 while providing any kind of educational material (last one was fixing something on a car engine).
By doing so you are engaging with the content which is exactly what the clickbait is supposed to get you to do. Just block them and move on. Any engagment boosts their content.
shit like this should be illegal. the hardware is already there, why pay wall it. or, if it gonna do that, make the product cheaper without the features
They’ll just claim that the base price is n + 5000 and you get it for n because the features are disabled.
but in practice it’s the opposite. electric cars have set the precedent that cars being serviceable only by the manufacturer is OK. ICE automobiles are on their way to being banned in a decade or two. that’s a huge opportunity for automakers to bring practices like these to the wider market, and policy makers will defend them because it’s hard to say “yes to electric cars, but only if …”
The fact that I'm forced to buy a car just to participate in modern life, but then not really own that car is infuriating. I'd rather just have functioning public transit, not this abomination of capitalism that electric cars seem to herald for us.
Because money!
So much evil. Just so much. And it's expanding, exponentially. Where are the evil levels going to measure at, in another 15 years. I'm too old (cbf learning) to make a meme, but I see lilo and stitch, but over stitches face is all currently existing corporations, and that drawing of the bad levels she drew.
no car should connect to the internet, ever.
Not the first to do this, but that doesn't make it okay.
Here's an idea... When they tell you that on the showroom floor, tell them you're not interested in such shenanigans, and walk out. It worked against BMW, and it'll work against Mercedes too
this is exactly why i will continue to drive my car, which is literally older than me. and if it ever breaks down, if possible, i will buy another toyota with no constant internet connection. i just don't need that kind of extortion in my life.
I’m going to venture to guess that many folks will go the route of Cubans and continuously rebuild their old cars.
why not? if the spare parts are available and people are willing to endure the horrible fuel mileage, let them.
You can buy a lot of gas for the premium you’d pay but buying a brand new car.
Every time I run the numbers to buy a new car vs keeping my 2014 Taco, the Taco wins, even with its abysmal gas mileage.
now imagine that with a 20 year old car whose engine regularly gets 400k km and gets up to 40mpg (around 5-6L/100km). and did i mention that i paid 2000€ for it? why would i now spend 50-100k on an electric car that lasts 20 years tops?
You wouldn't download a car, more horsepower
Wrong slogan, you need the EA Sports one: It's in the game.
You paid for the motor, now let's talk about the using the motor fee, the brakes fee, the windows fee, the turning the radio on fee, the turning the radio off fee, the turning the radio to something other than ABBA fee, the airbag subscription fee and any other thing we can get you for while you happen to be over this particular barrel.
I risk it won't take long for someone to crack it.
Now I'm definitely not getting an electronic car.
There are plenty of good electric cars. Don't buy one with subscription features.
Do you know the market? What would you consider to be the cheapest good option?
It depends on your country, your budget, your definition of good, and your driving needs.
A second hand Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt are more affordable, but don't suit everyone's needs.
An MG4 is a great budget new car, but can be out of some people's price range.
A Polestar 2 is a comfortable option from a manufacturer who cares about the environment.
A Porsche Taycan is a performance car for a fraction of the price of a petrol supercar.
Why would anyone buy that?
When literally every car manufacturer does it and does it on something that is technically a luxury, but most people have already got used to (like heated seats or apple carplay). The public has long revealed that they have basically no immunity towards these sorts of high level collusion tactics. And the government agencies meant to stop it seem to think it only counts if all the car manufacturers met in some sort of 'let's be evil' conference to plan it out, instead of, you know, just copying off what everyone else is doing.
They’re starting this off on the EQS which are usually bought by people less sensitive to money. For them, $1200 for more power will be an afterthought and they’ll pay it. That will get it entrenched before they push it down the stack.
Seriously this kind of behaviour is just bs. Anyways the piracy gang will always find modders. Why why do the bs in the first place.
Oh no! I can’t go from 0 to over the speed limit in less than 3 seconds. What am I going to do‽
Pay $1200, obviously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nANdDIDQ2rc
What the fuck was that and why did it crack me up so much? 😂😂😂😂
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Products aren't services, and bastards pretending otherwise are half of what's wrong with modern capitalism.
Lemmy users learning what an engine map is.