Now Sauron's lust and pride increased, until he knew no bounds, and he determined to make himself master of all things in Middle-earth, and to destroy the Elves, and to compass if he might, the downfall of Númenor. He brooked no freedom nor any rivalry, and he named himself Lord of the Earth. A mask he still could wear so that if he wished he might deceive the eyes of Men, seeming to them wise and fair. But he ruled rather by force and fear, if they might avail; and those who perceived his shadow spreading over the world called him the Dark Lord and named him the Enemy; and he gathered under his government all the evil things of the days of Morgoth that remained on earth or beneath it, and the Orcs were at his command and multiplied like flies.
i swear to god i have read this at some point but kept falling asleep trying
Right??? I’ve loved Tolkien since I was a kid. I’ve tried to read silmarillion several times and I swear my eyes just glaze over due to how pervasively stilted and baroque the language is.
If it ain't baroque, don't fix it.
Serkis reading it to you helps a lot, all of his readings are top tier
most of the time i fall asleep when being read to too.
also, i made it through (with the occasional nap with the book in my face), i just cant recall much of it but i cant really either from having read the first book of the old testament...
Cool can the big instances stop pretending the federation won't be faced with the same strategy as past technologies? This happens literally every time.
Does anyone know if lemmy.world changed their stance on it?
I dont think so. That would seem to be sticky worthy like they do with other announcements.
what past technologies?
email is federated... every corporation eventually joined in and runs an email server, email is still independent....
i would really like some examples because i've seen the claim before.
Email is kind of an oligopoly though, if you're not one of the big guys it can get pretty frustrating to run an email server. Even if you do everything right, sometimes you just get randomly blacklisted anyway, you're at the mercy of the big email providers.
makes sense...
personally, i see this as a flaw in federation in general. Even diaspora's end goal, originally, was everyone running their own instances.
the biggest hurdle though, is getting people to care. Which happens temporarily, every once in a while... like when reddit fucked everyone over with api changes.
i tried to get everyone i know on diaspora when that was happening... got one person to try it for a second. At least with lemmy i don't have to know anyone else on here, so it just feels like the better og reddit anyways...
XMPP, Browsers (early days and why Internet Explorer is so widely known), Microsoft broke Java compatibility with non windows systems by replacing the native interface with their J/Direct breaking programs for other opwrating systems, MAPI has been accused of doing this to IMAP and POP3 (tho not to the same degree). Its mostly Microsoft, keep in mind even my own mother was born before the personal computer so this has all evolved within the last 50 or so years and completely pertains to software as far as I am aware. Here is a quick wikipedia page if you want to update yourself. There are plenty of battles to fight today, too. Its understandable to not have the will or want to get into it.
Email is not independent and hasn't been for a while. Go ahead. Try to run a mail server of your own. If you aren't paying one of the big companies, your email won't get delivered.
it's not that bad, really
like 80% of US ISPs block port 25 outbound. you're not gonna be sending emails without going through some additional commercial entity forwarding that traffic.
sure, find a VPN provider that provisions PTR records correctly, and it's not too hard to get your mail delivered if you read the docs. it's also true that that's notably more restrictive than any other "open" communications protocol i'm accustomed to.
Zuck I'll gut you if you ever interact with me rule
So he likes being insulted? What a freak.
Was going to say not to kink shame but then I'd have been whooshed.
"warm welcome" ...with flamethrowers
Threads will be the test on whether the Fediverse can resist corporate greed or if the technology is just a nice gimmick.
Embrace, Extend, Exsanguinate.
Defed
Threads is obviously not trying to Embrace, Extend and Extinguish the fediverse
The first step is to Embrace, but they are already Extending. How can they Extinguish if they havent Embraced yet?
Warm deez nuts, Zuck. Fuck all the way off, please and thank you.
Go work on your metauniverse or whatever
While we are on the federal universe or something
Has this man used his own platform
Never, he knows what he does💀
embrace extend extinguish,
Fuck you in the neck, fuckerberg-zuckerfuck
Can't he write it in a less "I wear human flesh to hide my reptilian scales" kind of way.
Is this real?
Everything has to be labeled these days, even videos.
Given his account isn't even federating yet, and there's no evidence of this post on Threads: yeah, I'm gonna guess it's fake ragebait.
Welp, I am off Mastodon then :(
Don‘t worry, many mastodon servers are blocking threads out of principle, infosec.space for example
Is there a list of blockers and non-blockers?
Yeah there was a website floating around that had the names of all the instances protesting the federation of threads. Ill see if i can dig it up, or maybe someone else will be quicker than me to post a link
Now Sauron's lust and pride increased, until he knew no bounds, and he determined to make himself master of all things in Middle-earth, and to destroy the Elves, and to compass if he might, the downfall of Númenor. He brooked no freedom nor any rivalry, and he named himself Lord of the Earth. A mask he still could wear so that if he wished he might deceive the eyes of Men, seeming to them wise and fair. But he ruled rather by force and fear, if they might avail; and those who perceived his shadow spreading over the world called him the Dark Lord and named him the Enemy; and he gathered under his government all the evil things of the days of Morgoth that remained on earth or beneath it, and the Orcs were at his command and multiplied like flies.
i swear to god i have read this at some point but kept falling asleep trying
Right??? I’ve loved Tolkien since I was a kid. I’ve tried to read silmarillion several times and I swear my eyes just glaze over due to how pervasively stilted and baroque the language is.
If it ain't baroque, don't fix it.
Serkis reading it to you helps a lot, all of his readings are top tier
most of the time i fall asleep when being read to too.
also, i made it through (with the occasional nap with the book in my face), i just cant recall much of it but i cant really either from having read the first book of the old testament...
it's a good thing i started with lotr instead
Here's a little treat for you
The BBC radio dramatization of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy
I myself like that they kept most of the things the Peter Jackson movies left out, like the absurd amount of musical loredumps in the text.
my dude, the lord of the ring doesnt require watering it down with dramatization.
the silmarillion, on the other hand, could become much more accessible
I don't feel that it is watering anything down. They are very faithful to the books
Especially apt since Zuckerberg calls himself "the Eye of Sauron"
Accurate lol
Cool can the big instances stop pretending the federation won't be faced with the same strategy as past technologies? This happens literally every time.
Does anyone know if lemmy.world changed their stance on it?
I dont think so. That would seem to be sticky worthy like they do with other announcements.
what past technologies?
email is federated... every corporation eventually joined in and runs an email server, email is still independent....
i would really like some examples because i've seen the claim before.
Email is kind of an oligopoly though, if you're not one of the big guys it can get pretty frustrating to run an email server. Even if you do everything right, sometimes you just get randomly blacklisted anyway, you're at the mercy of the big email providers.
makes sense...
personally, i see this as a flaw in federation in general. Even diaspora's end goal, originally, was everyone running their own instances.
the biggest hurdle though, is getting people to care. Which happens temporarily, every once in a while... like when reddit fucked everyone over with api changes.
i tried to get everyone i know on diaspora when that was happening... got one person to try it for a second. At least with lemmy i don't have to know anyone else on here, so it just feels like the better og reddit anyways...
XMPP, Browsers (early days and why Internet Explorer is so widely known), Microsoft broke Java compatibility with non windows systems by replacing the native interface with their J/Direct breaking programs for other opwrating systems, MAPI has been accused of doing this to IMAP and POP3 (tho not to the same degree). Its mostly Microsoft, keep in mind even my own mother was born before the personal computer so this has all evolved within the last 50 or so years and completely pertains to software as far as I am aware. Here is a quick wikipedia page if you want to update yourself. There are plenty of battles to fight today, too. Its understandable to not have the will or want to get into it.
Email is not independent and hasn't been for a while. Go ahead. Try to run a mail server of your own. If you aren't paying one of the big companies, your email won't get delivered.
it's not that bad, really
like 80% of US ISPs block port 25 outbound. you're not gonna be sending emails without going through some additional commercial entity forwarding that traffic.
sure, find a VPN provider that provisions PTR records correctly, and it's not too hard to get your mail delivered if you read the docs. it's also true that that's notably more restrictive than any other "open" communications protocol i'm accustomed to.
Zuck I'll gut you if you ever interact with me rule
So he likes being insulted? What a freak.
Was going to say not to kink shame but then I'd have been whooshed.
"warm welcome" ...with flamethrowers
Threads will be the test on whether the Fediverse can resist corporate greed or if the technology is just a nice gimmick.
Embrace, Extend, Exsanguinate.
Defed
Threads is obviously not trying to Embrace, Extend and Extinguish the fediverse
The first step is to Embrace, but they are already Extending. How can they Extinguish if they havent Embraced yet?
Warm deez nuts, Zuck. Fuck all the way off, please and thank you.
Go work on your metauniverse or whatever
While we are on the federal universe or something
Has this man used his own platform
Never, he knows what he does💀
embrace extend extinguish,
Fuck you in the neck, fuckerberg-zuckerfuck
Can't he write it in a less "I wear human flesh to hide my reptilian scales" kind of way.
Is this real?
Everything has to be labeled these days, even videos.
Given his account isn't even federating yet, and there's no evidence of this post on Threads: yeah, I'm gonna guess it's fake ragebait.
Welp, I am off Mastodon then :(
Don‘t worry, many mastodon servers are blocking threads out of principle, infosec.space for example
Is there a list of blockers and non-blockers?
Yeah there was a website floating around that had the names of all the instances protesting the federation of threads. Ill see if i can dig it up, or maybe someone else will be quicker than me to post a link
Edited to add link: https://fedipact.online/
https://fedipact.veganism.social/
He referring to a warm pringles can?
i just like that i'll be able to see posts from people i would follow on threads if i had an account there
That's how it ought to be. That's probably not how things will evolve.
Is this real?
I understand the concern here, but this isn't his space, and I feel that how it works, he can't take it.