I don't have claustrophobia, but thinking about this dude is about as close as I get. What an awful way to die, and I can't imagine how insane you have to be to enjoy this hobby.
You'd have to be really nutty.
Nutty putty?
Too soon
Dude had a very long time to contemplate and regret every choice he made that caused him to end up in that situation
Not that long. Once the blood started pooling in his head, things probably got weird.
This is the time where I'd be like you can break whatever is needed to get me out of this fucking hole. I'll scream but keep pulling.
IIRC if they broke his legs to get him out he very likely could have died from shock.
That sounds better
Couldn't they have sedated him or something? This is just an awful way to die.
Nah should've just rolled a grenade down there tbh
Any anesthesiologists volunteering to crawl down there?
In a situation like this, I don't think they'd be worried about harming him. Dude was going to die, so if I'm him, try everything possible.
Hey, sounds like a great time to take your first 12 doses of heroin
If it doesn't kill me and gets me out of that situation...fuck it
Even though his friend got help in time, they couldn't pull him out before he died.
This hole was made for me
You've clearly never heard of underwater spelunking
Cave diving is next level crazy.
Spelunking terrifies me, but I'm actively working towards my cave diving cert.
I can always cut my straps and squirm out of my gear if things get tight, and I don't have to worry about gravity.
You mean suicide with hops?
Watched internet historians youtubevideo about the dude.Damn horrible situation...
Now go watch hbomberguy's video about plagiarism to be aware of how much of this Internet Historians video is stolen.
Cool, looks like a lot of video to watch, I'll take your word for it. Not too surprising thinking about it.
Maybe not surprising, but still disappointing. I liked IH videos, but knowing that a lot of it is stolen, puts a stain on it. But at least it explains why his videos tend to disappear from his channel.
Edit: The IH part starts at around 1:25:00 and lasts 20 minutes.
Was he the guy who also kept making all sorts of Nazi references?
Yeah there's an alarming amount of them.
Today's MVP!!
And I agree, it puts a smear over all the content.
guy covers historical event
doesn't rewrite history, instead takes what someone else has written about event
doesn't use own fotos, uses someone elses foto instead
makes mistakes
I am not saying this is a big nothing burger, but his only real mistakes was not to list his sources.
Yeah, no. He almost entirely verbatim copied the text and wording on the original article and shuffled some words around to try and make it less obvious (and failed). It is blatant plagiarism, there is no other way to call it. This was no innocent mistake of forgetting to list a source. Watch the hbomberguy video segment about it, it paints a very clear picture.
It is blatant plagiarism
yes, and a solution could have been to cite sources.
This was no innocent mistake of forgetting to list a source
I don't think, that not-citing-sources is an innocent mistake.
Watch the hbomberguy video segment about it, it paints a very clear picture
I did. I does paint a very colorful picture. Full of opinion and sarcasm and rhethoric.
Here is a rule-of-thumb to decide if an argument was convincing because it had good content, or because it was well written: If the content was good, it will be easy for you explain to a 3rd party. If only the presentation was good, then you will have a hard time convincing others.
Full of opinion and sarcasm and rhethoric.
It became annoyingly fingerpointy for me personally.
If the content was good, it will be easy for you explain to a 3rd party. If only the presentation was good, then you will have a hard time convincing others.
Articles can be written perfectly, but that doesn't mean I'll read them. Give me someone narrating the whole thing with entertaining animations in the background and you've created something interesting and engaging to me.
The one thing about that which I find worth defending, is how much his video made the story entertaining. I wouldn't have read the article but his video kept me engaged . Even if the writing was copied, he still added a lot to it.
You can be entertaining without stealing other people's work and claiming it as your own.
That's the most baffling thing. His video was transformative. Had he just credited the writing he'd probably be fine but he just decided not to, for some reason.
Adding video isn't transformative. Otherwise Disney could just turn any book they want into a movie without ever paying anyone for the rights.
This is a different man in a cave.
Which one? Are either of them still up? I heard he got hbomed.
Was this Man in Cave? Because I definitely heard about it...
That wasn't this guy, it was different cave. Turns out lots of people have died horribly in caves.
Just seeing this image gives me anxiety at a whole different level
This happened. Look up nutty putty cave incident. Very sad story
The story about a man stuck in a cave that gave me nightmares forever, after watching the video, this new story can't hurt me anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnI_oZKxzl0
Watch it, the way the story is told is great, a classic! 10/10 nightmares, will watch again!
Yes, but the video has been deleted and reuploaded several times after been called out.
I edited my comment and added the original article. Again, thanks for pointing out the problem, really appreachiate it!
For any cave dweller who haven't seen it, here's Hbomberguy talking about the history of this video and it's plagiarism, as @Mago alluded to.
https://piped.video/watch?v=yDp3cB5fHXQ&t=5071 (if the timecode doesn't work, it's arond the 1:24~25 mark.
Reading about the attempt to rescue him gave me claustrophobia.
Nutty putty cave incident for those that are curious.
Is this hussein?
search 'nutty putty cave'
No, I don't think I will
No that guy is a med student. For what it's worth he really really really wants to get out of there.
Actually, he seems to be at peace with it now.
Jesus christ, I'm horrible.
I'll see myself out...unlike others.
Holy mother of God...
my good fellow, you just won 2 internets! congratulations!
I wasn't even trying. Just trying to keep my head down.
Aaw fuck...
2 internets? Are they on floppies or CD-ROMs?
5-inch floppies!
That's what happens when all the blood flows to your head.
cringe *
Geothermal heating and cooling!
This incident gave me trauma
Ffs this is so dark yet I expelled air very fast from my nose
okay but what if I'm only going to stay there 24 hours and then die? Do I still have to pay for a whole month?
Yes. Plus security deposit. We're going to need to hire security for the crowd that will gather outside when we pull out your corpse.
Ummm...
They never pulled him out. He's still in there buried in concrete.
Believe it or not, he also never paid rent.
Upset your landlord with this one neat trick!!
Please arrange a professional clean prior to vacating or we will arrange our own and the cost will be forwarded to you. Thanks.
But I'm not vacating my cozy nook after I die. Do you still require tenants to pay rent when dead?
Nightmare fuel that whole incident.
We should really have a spelunking agency go around closing off these "no room to turn around" passageways because as fun as these caver types are personally, they're also the kind of morons who see a very obviously dangerous hole off the recommended path and think "LEZZDOIIIIIIIIT!" Basically most of the cast of "As Above So Below", "What's that, this supposed passageway to hell is shifting in ways to reveal passages that are unknown even to this expert catacomb guide despite his tag being on the walls? LET'S KEEP GOING!"
Abandoned mine explores too. Hey! Arsenic water and 100 year old dynamite! Geotechnical hazards! LETS GOOOOOO
YOOOO whats up dingleberries its ya boy Ser Sploresalot, and today we're dry-panning for gemstones in Wittenoom gorge!
I like to imagine the horror of going down an "unexplored" hole, being unable to turn around or back out, and crawling face first into the previous explorer's boots.
I don't have claustrophobia, but thinking about this dude is about as close as I get. What an awful way to die, and I can't imagine how insane you have to be to enjoy this hobby.
You'd have to be really nutty.
Nutty putty?
Too soon
Dude had a very long time to contemplate and regret every choice he made that caused him to end up in that situation
Not that long. Once the blood started pooling in his head, things probably got weird.
This is the time where I'd be like you can break whatever is needed to get me out of this fucking hole. I'll scream but keep pulling.
IIRC if they broke his legs to get him out he very likely could have died from shock.
That sounds better
Couldn't they have sedated him or something? This is just an awful way to die.
Nah should've just rolled a grenade down there tbh
Any anesthesiologists volunteering to crawl down there?
In a situation like this, I don't think they'd be worried about harming him. Dude was going to die, so if I'm him, try everything possible.
Hey, sounds like a great time to take your first 12 doses of heroin
If it doesn't kill me and gets me out of that situation...fuck it
Even though his friend got help in time, they couldn't pull him out before he died.
This hole was made for me
You've clearly never heard of underwater spelunking
Cave diving is next level crazy.
Spelunking terrifies me, but I'm actively working towards my cave diving cert.
I can always cut my straps and squirm out of my gear if things get tight, and I don't have to worry about gravity.
You mean suicide with hops?
Watched internet historians youtubevideo about the dude.Damn horrible situation...
Now go watch hbomberguy's video about plagiarism to be aware of how much of this Internet Historians video is stolen.
Cool, looks like a lot of video to watch, I'll take your word for it. Not too surprising thinking about it.
Maybe not surprising, but still disappointing. I liked IH videos, but knowing that a lot of it is stolen, puts a stain on it. But at least it explains why his videos tend to disappear from his channel.
Edit: The IH part starts at around 1:25:00 and lasts 20 minutes.
Was he the guy who also kept making all sorts of Nazi references?
Yeah there's an alarming amount of them.
Today's MVP!! And I agree, it puts a smear over all the content.
I am not saying this is a big nothing burger, but his only real mistakes was not to list his sources.
Yeah, no. He almost entirely verbatim copied the text and wording on the original article and shuffled some words around to try and make it less obvious (and failed). It is blatant plagiarism, there is no other way to call it. This was no innocent mistake of forgetting to list a source. Watch the hbomberguy video segment about it, it paints a very clear picture.
yes, and a solution could have been to cite sources.
I don't think, that not-citing-sources is an innocent mistake.
I did. I does paint a very colorful picture. Full of opinion and sarcasm and rhethoric.
Here is a rule-of-thumb to decide if an argument was convincing because it had good content, or because it was well written: If the content was good, it will be easy for you explain to a 3rd party. If only the presentation was good, then you will have a hard time convincing others.
It became annoyingly fingerpointy for me personally.
Articles can be written perfectly, but that doesn't mean I'll read them. Give me someone narrating the whole thing with entertaining animations in the background and you've created something interesting and engaging to me.
The one thing about that which I find worth defending, is how much his video made the story entertaining. I wouldn't have read the article but his video kept me engaged . Even if the writing was copied, he still added a lot to it.
You can be entertaining without stealing other people's work and claiming it as your own.
That's the most baffling thing. His video was transformative. Had he just credited the writing he'd probably be fine but he just decided not to, for some reason.
Adding video isn't transformative. Otherwise Disney could just turn any book they want into a movie without ever paying anyone for the rights.
This is a different man in a cave.
Which one? Are either of them still up? I heard he got hbomed.
Was this Man in Cave? Because I definitely heard about it...
That wasn't this guy, it was different cave. Turns out lots of people have died horribly in caves.
Just seeing this image gives me anxiety at a whole different level
This happened. Look up nutty putty cave incident. Very sad story
But that isn't my hole. It wasn't made for me.
DRRRRRR
DRRRRRRRRR
DRRRRRRRRRRR
The story about a man stuck in a cave that gave me nightmares forever, after watching the video, this new story can't hurt me anymore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnI_oZKxzl0
Watch it, the way the story is told is great, a classic! 10/10 nightmares, will watch again!
Edit: I was made aware that the video plagiarised heavily an article by someone else, so I leave the link to the original work here too: https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/544782/1925-cave-rescue-that-captivated-the-united-states-floyd-collins
Just FYI, that whole video is plagiarised from an article written by someone else.
The video credits an article in its description and its author: https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/544782/1925-cave-rescue-that-captivated-the-united-states-floyd-collins Is it this one?
Yes, but the video has been deleted and reuploaded several times after been called out.
I edited my comment and added the original article. Again, thanks for pointing out the problem, really appreachiate it!
For any cave dweller who haven't seen it, here's Hbomberguy talking about the history of this video and it's plagiarism, as @Mago alluded to. https://piped.video/watch?v=yDp3cB5fHXQ&t=5071 (if the timecode doesn't work, it's arond the 1:24~25 mark.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=nnI_oZKxzl0
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Reading about the attempt to rescue him gave me claustrophobia.
Nutty putty cave incident for those that are curious.
Is this hussein?
search 'nutty putty cave'
No, I don't think I will
No that guy is a med student. For what it's worth he really really really wants to get out of there.
Actually, he seems to be at peace with it now.
Jesus christ, I'm horrible.
I'll see myself out...unlike others.
Holy mother of God...
my good fellow, you just won 2 internets! congratulations!
I wasn't even trying. Just trying to keep my head down.
Aaw fuck...
2 internets? Are they on floppies or CD-ROMs?
5-inch floppies!
That's what happens when all the blood flows to your head.
Geothermal heating and cooling!
This incident gave me trauma
Ffs this is so dark yet I expelled air very fast from my nose
okay but what if I'm only going to stay there 24 hours and then die? Do I still have to pay for a whole month?
Yes. Plus security deposit. We're going to need to hire security for the crowd that will gather outside when we pull out your corpse.
Ummm...
They never pulled him out. He's still in there buried in concrete.
Believe it or not, he also never paid rent.
Upset your landlord with this one neat trick!!
Please arrange a professional clean prior to vacating or we will arrange our own and the cost will be forwarded to you. Thanks.
But I'm not vacating my cozy nook after I die. Do you still require tenants to pay rent when dead?
Nightmare fuel that whole incident.
We should really have a spelunking agency go around closing off these "no room to turn around" passageways because as fun as these caver types are personally, they're also the kind of morons who see a very obviously dangerous hole off the recommended path and think "LEZZDOIIIIIIIIT!" Basically most of the cast of "As Above So Below", "What's that, this supposed passageway to hell is shifting in ways to reveal passages that are unknown even to this expert catacomb guide despite his tag being on the walls? LET'S KEEP GOING!"
Abandoned mine explores too. Hey! Arsenic water and 100 year old dynamite! Geotechnical hazards! LETS GOOOOOO
YOOOO whats up dingleberries its ya boy Ser Sploresalot, and today we're dry-panning for gemstones in Wittenoom gorge!
I like to imagine the horror of going down an "unexplored" hole, being unable to turn around or back out, and crawling face first into the previous explorer's boots.