Same. I used mIRC back in the 90's, but ever since I started dabbling with servers I preferred to have an irssi client running inside a screen session somewhere. Allowed me to catch up on things that happened while I was AFK, as well as provide some continuity while I was on the move and/or on a dodgy connection.
Unfortunately it's practically unusable for my use case, which is talking in CJK channels on non-UTF8 servers (when the channel name also has such characters), because recode support has been broken for 20 years.
You know, I wish I could enjoy IRC - or chatrooms in general. But I just struggle with them. Forums and their ilk, I get. I check in on them and see what's been posted since I last visited, and reply to anything that motivates me to do so. Perhaps I'll even throw a post up myself once in a while.
But with IRC, Matrix, Discord, etc, I just feel like I only ever enter in the middle of an existing conversation. It's fine on very small rooms where it's almost analagous to a forum because there's little enough conversation going on that it remains mostly asynchronous. But larger chatrooms are just a wall of flowing conversation that I struggle to keep up with, or find an entry point.
Anyway - to answer the actual question, I use something called "The Lounge" which I host on my VPS. I like it because it remains online even when I am not, so I can atleast view some of the history of any conversation I do stumble across when I go on IRC. I typically just use the web client that comes with it.
I feel the same way. I don't feel like hanging around for someone else's conversation to end so I can actually get what the fuck is happening.
ERC, why leave Emacs?
Because it's healthy.
Is mIRC still a thing? Do people still use it? Gosh I feel old.
That's the first one I thought of as well. And your third point, too... Haha
I remember back in day, my friends would learn how to script only to modify their mIRC and have some sick startup animations and music.
Then MSN Messenger showed up.
I was gonna say this is my favorite, with IRCn on top. It's been a while since I connected. Is EFNet still around?
I downloaded it not that long ago and worked great!
Weechat. Terminal based, flexible scripting system using a handful of languages, still actively developed, and I can make it work the way I want it to work.
Seconded. Weechat and Gomuks for matrix chat.
Some easy display rules, and a couple of plugins and it's perfect.
Sounds too much like WeChat
If you're going to not use software because you don't like a program with a similar name, I really don't know what to tell you... 🤷♂️
Would you run a distro called Windoze?
I don't care what it's called as long as it's a decent distro and does what I need it to do.
irssi. No explanation necessary
I use Hexchat. It’s a fine GUI a client, simple and reliable. I use a ZNC bouncer so no need to keep a CLI client running 24/7.
Just to let you know, Hexchat is no longer maintained, unless someone has forked it. Might be worth looking into alternatives.
Has IRC been getting many new features recently? It kind of feels like the sort of thing where software can become "finished".
I mean yeah, Hexchat does work pretty well and is kind of finished. But it's possible there are existing security vulnerabilities or new ones to be discovered in the future.
IRCv3 has extended IRC quite a bit over the past decade, fixing a lot of minor pain points if clients support the fixed versions of the protocol.
IRC keeps evolving constantly. In fact it's one of the few protocols without a fixed spec.
Aw drat. That sucks. Thanks for pointing that out
Same. Hexchat + znc = peak of software development
The Lounge. Very convenient to use.
Already coming up close to 10 years of The Lounge! Really gets the job done nicely as long as you don't hate webapps. By far the least broken option for mobile unless you go IRCCloud.
I use Quassel hosted on my server.
senpai
irssi. the plugin stuff is nice, terminal is better than GUI, and when themed it doesn't look terrible
The one I wrote myself. Not because its any better ha ha. Its pretty fun to work on it though.
Irssi. It's extensible and stable, been using it for years.
Is IRC still that popular? I mean it’s all Discord and Matrix etc these days (not saying that’s a good thing, I f’in hate Discord)
What kind of channels are you in if I may ask?
IRC's not as popular as in its heyday, and while once it was the main choice for multi-playing gaming chat (Quakenet et al), that's largely gone elsewhere, but it's still very good for certain technical channels.
IRC has also proved to be remarkably resistent to commercialisation, mostly due to the users. Even when one of the biggest networks, Freenode, got taken over by a drug addled mentalist Reference who started insisting all all kinds of strange things, the users just upped sticks and created a new network. A bit of fuss, but the important stuff stayed the same and it's continued much as before as a new network, Librenet.
I am still active in some private irc servers. The communities haven't changed much since the golden era of irc.
IRC still seems to be pretty active in piracy communities. At least most of the private trackers I'm on host an IRC instance.
Discord is closed source and has no way to easily archive/record conversations. This makes it unsuitable for a lot of open source projects who need a chat client. I've not used much Discord but potentially the "gamer" culture might put people off.
Matrix seems good but it's not quite there yet from what I can tell. It's got way more features than IRC but none of them seem to work that well. Like a swiss army knife full of blunt tools.
For IRC I'm on the libera.chat server. Usually hanging out in the gentoo channels since I use that distro. There are a lot of different channels for the various devs, user tech support, niche uses like gaming* and also offtopic chat channels.
*More gamers tend to use other linux distros for some reason
It is. It's obscure enough for the normies to stay away. Which is its main feature
I run irssi on a Raspberry Pi. It has everything I need.
Do I have to self host it to make it work or can I just install it on my machine
You can install it on any machine. It's just a terminal IRC client. I run it on a small home server with screen so that it's always on.
hexchat, also Konversation
Self hosted ‘The Lounge’ is great.
Yes TheLounge is fantastic but I switched to Convos these days because it's lighter weight and I somehow manage to overrun my disk much less often :)
srain, becuase of being modern gtk, because of being light on dependencies, because of being available on aur, and because I'd like it more (yes there are several things that are also a matter of taste) than the alternatives, :)
Quassel, self-hosted.
Convos - self hosted web based client written in Perl of all things, because it's small, simple, does exactly what I want and no more, and avoids my having to faff with client + bouncer which was getting old 10 years ago and feels positively withering now.
WeeChat! I've been using WeeChat for like 13 years now and I love it. I used to use irssi back in the days and mIRC before irssi existed.. Some bitchX experiments may have happened at some point during the shell boom too.
This remote interface is the biggest selling point to me even today, it's amazing: WeeChat-Android.
ircCloud because my self hosted push notifications were failing and it worked right away.
Irssi before I started depending on push notifications though.
I use the web client of libera.chat and I love it because convenience!
Polaris.
Yes i am old
Hexchat and pidgin.
What to do now when they are not supported on wayland?
Quassel nowadays, because I'm on my phone more often than my laptop. Back when I say at a keyboard more, it was irssi, no contest
I run Circe in Emacs because it's lightweight and integrates with the modeline for not overly distracting notifications.
Haven't tried halloy, but it sounds cool, I wish rust build with shared libs in mind, instead of everything link statically, but it sounds interesting, I'll see how it is compared to srain which is my current choice...
Twitch dot tv
It’s old, but removedx.
can't find any client by that name
imagine a pejorative term for women with the letter "x" appended to it
the client hasn't been updated in a long time, perhaps someone needs to fork it.
It's been dead for a decade, even if it were forked it would still be 10 year old code. There's plenty of good CLI clients like irssi and weechat still under active development.
Yeah, but I want the irc client with a cussword name that i used to use, not boring old irssi
For Windows I like 0irc. It's extremely lightweight and portable. For a browser alternative, KiwilIRC works in a pinch.
Slack
Element, not only is Matrix the future but it handles bridging to irc well
the future
Only if the future is a privacy and GDPR minefield...
Irssi all the way
Same. I used mIRC back in the 90's, but ever since I started dabbling with servers I preferred to have an irssi client running inside a screen session somewhere. Allowed me to catch up on things that happened while I was AFK, as well as provide some continuity while I was on the move and/or on a dodgy connection.
Unfortunately it's practically unusable for my use case, which is talking in CJK channels on non-UTF8 servers (when the channel name also has such characters), because recode support has been broken for 20 years.
You know, I wish I could enjoy IRC - or chatrooms in general. But I just struggle with them. Forums and their ilk, I get. I check in on them and see what's been posted since I last visited, and reply to anything that motivates me to do so. Perhaps I'll even throw a post up myself once in a while.
But with IRC, Matrix, Discord, etc, I just feel like I only ever enter in the middle of an existing conversation. It's fine on very small rooms where it's almost analagous to a forum because there's little enough conversation going on that it remains mostly asynchronous. But larger chatrooms are just a wall of flowing conversation that I struggle to keep up with, or find an entry point.
Anyway - to answer the actual question, I use something called "The Lounge" which I host on my VPS. I like it because it remains online even when I am not, so I can atleast view some of the history of any conversation I do stumble across when I go on IRC. I typically just use the web client that comes with it.
I feel the same way. I don't feel like hanging around for someone else's conversation to end so I can actually get what the fuck is happening.
ERC, why leave Emacs?
Because it's healthy.
Is mIRC still a thing? Do people still use it? Gosh I feel old.
That's the first one I thought of as well. And your third point, too... Haha
I remember back in day, my friends would learn how to script only to modify their mIRC and have some sick startup animations and music.
Then MSN Messenger showed up.
I was gonna say this is my favorite, with IRCn on top. It's been a while since I connected. Is EFNet still around?
I downloaded it not that long ago and worked great!
Weechat. Terminal based, flexible scripting system using a handful of languages, still actively developed, and I can make it work the way I want it to work.
Seconded. Weechat and Gomuks for matrix chat.
Some easy display rules, and a couple of plugins and it's perfect.
Sounds too much like WeChat
If you're going to not use software because you don't like a program with a similar name, I really don't know what to tell you... 🤷♂️
Would you run a distro called Windoze?
I don't care what it's called as long as it's a decent distro and does what I need it to do.
irssi. No explanation necessary
I use Hexchat. It’s a fine GUI a client, simple and reliable. I use a ZNC bouncer so no need to keep a CLI client running 24/7.
Just to let you know, Hexchat is no longer maintained, unless someone has forked it. Might be worth looking into alternatives.
https://hexchat.github.io/news/2.16.2.html
Has IRC been getting many new features recently? It kind of feels like the sort of thing where software can become "finished".
I mean yeah, Hexchat does work pretty well and is kind of finished. But it's possible there are existing security vulnerabilities or new ones to be discovered in the future.
IRCv3 has extended IRC quite a bit over the past decade, fixing a lot of minor pain points if clients support the fixed versions of the protocol.
IRC keeps evolving constantly. In fact it's one of the few protocols without a fixed spec.
Aw drat. That sucks. Thanks for pointing that out
Same. Hexchat + znc = peak of software development
The Lounge. Very convenient to use.
Already coming up close to 10 years of The Lounge! Really gets the job done nicely as long as you don't hate webapps. By far the least broken option for mobile unless you go IRCCloud.
I use Quassel hosted on my server.
senpai
irssi. the plugin stuff is nice, terminal is better than GUI, and when themed it doesn't look terrible
The one I wrote myself. Not because its any better ha ha. Its pretty fun to work on it though.
Irssi. It's extensible and stable, been using it for years.
Is IRC still that popular? I mean it’s all Discord and Matrix etc these days (not saying that’s a good thing, I f’in hate Discord)
What kind of channels are you in if I may ask?
IRC's not as popular as in its heyday, and while once it was the main choice for multi-playing gaming chat (Quakenet et al), that's largely gone elsewhere, but it's still very good for certain technical channels.
IRC has also proved to be remarkably resistent to commercialisation, mostly due to the users. Even when one of the biggest networks, Freenode, got taken over by a drug addled mentalist Reference who started insisting all all kinds of strange things, the users just upped sticks and created a new network. A bit of fuss, but the important stuff stayed the same and it's continued much as before as a new network, Librenet.
I am still active in some private irc servers. The communities haven't changed much since the golden era of irc.
IRC still seems to be pretty active in piracy communities. At least most of the private trackers I'm on host an IRC instance.
Discord is closed source and has no way to easily archive/record conversations. This makes it unsuitable for a lot of open source projects who need a chat client. I've not used much Discord but potentially the "gamer" culture might put people off.
Matrix seems good but it's not quite there yet from what I can tell. It's got way more features than IRC but none of them seem to work that well. Like a swiss army knife full of blunt tools.
For IRC I'm on the libera.chat server. Usually hanging out in the gentoo channels since I use that distro. There are a lot of different channels for the various devs, user tech support, niche uses like gaming* and also offtopic chat channels.
*More gamers tend to use other linux distros for some reason
It is. It's obscure enough for the normies to stay away. Which is its main feature
I run irssi on a Raspberry Pi. It has everything I need.
Do I have to self host it to make it work or can I just install it on my machine
You can install it on any machine. It's just a terminal IRC client. I run it on a small home server with
screenso that it's always on.hexchat, also Konversation
Self hosted ‘The Lounge’ is great.
Yes TheLounge is fantastic but I switched to Convos these days because it's lighter weight and I somehow manage to overrun my disk much less often :)
srain, becuase of being modern gtk, because of being light on dependencies, because of being available on aur, and because I'd like it more (yes there are several things that are also a matter of taste) than the alternatives, :)
Quassel, self-hosted.
Convos - self hosted web based client written in Perl of all things, because it's small, simple, does exactly what I want and no more, and avoids my having to faff with client + bouncer which was getting old 10 years ago and feels positively withering now.
https://convos.chat/
WeeChat! I've been using WeeChat for like 13 years now and I love it. I used to use irssi back in the days and mIRC before irssi existed.. Some bitchX experiments may have happened at some point during the shell boom too.
This remote interface is the biggest selling point to me even today, it's amazing: WeeChat-Android.
ircCloud because my self hosted push notifications were failing and it worked right away.
Irssi before I started depending on push notifications though.
I use the web client of libera.chat and I love it because convenience!
Polaris.
Yes i am old
Hexchat and pidgin. What to do now when they are not supported on wayland?
Quassel nowadays, because I'm on my phone more often than my laptop. Back when I say at a keyboard more, it was irssi, no contest
I run Circe in Emacs because it's lightweight and integrates with the modeline for not overly distracting notifications.
Halloy
Haven't tried halloy, but it sounds cool, I wish rust build with shared libs in mind, instead of everything link statically, but it sounds interesting, I'll see how it is compared to srain which is my current choice...
Twitch dot tv
It’s old, but removedx.
can't find any client by that name
imagine a pejorative term for women with the letter "x" appended to it
the client hasn't been updated in a long time, perhaps someone needs to fork it.
It's been dead for a decade, even if it were forked it would still be 10 year old code. There's plenty of good CLI clients like
irssiandweechatstill under active development.Yeah, but I want the irc client with a cussword name that i used to use, not boring old irssi
For Windows I like 0irc. It's extremely lightweight and portable. For a browser alternative, KiwilIRC works in a pinch.
Slack
Element, not only is Matrix the future but it handles bridging to irc well
Only if the future is a privacy and GDPR minefield...
What makes it more of a minefield than email?