Do flat earthers think other planets are flat? All of them or some of them? Are stars (including and excluding the sun) flat too?

Skullgrid@lemmy.world to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 141 points –
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The sole purpose of being a flat earther is to be a very difficult person to deal with, so the content of their little belief system is irrelevant.

They're the sovereign citizens of earth science.

It’s like a form of adult onset oppositional-defiant disorder

Checks DSM. Yep that about sums it up..

Case closed

Sometimes someone says something just the right way. Well done.

For most of them nothing is real, neither the stars nor the planets, and any mention of those things before modern days was planted by the shadow government or something. Some even think the moon is fake too and the sun is some kind of big light bulb in the sky or whatever.

More than believers, they are deniers, of everything.

My interactions with them point to them not believing those things are real at all, or are not planets, etc.

The one flat earther i know believes the sun and the moon are just spotlights held up from the ceiling of a giant dome.

my brother thinks we live inside the earth and the sky is a projection. not even kidding

I’ve heard some say that they think the moon is a real, spherical body in the sky. While others disagree and think it’s either a simulation or something else entirely.

The problem with them is that they all have a different idea that goes with their view of this conspiracy theory so they all believe something different than the next. The grouping of them is so small that they never got a chance to really develop a singular idea beyond agreeing among themselves that the world is flat.

My favorites are The ones who think that the Earth is kind has kind of a rim around the edge and the moon rolls across that like a ball lol

But I've seen plenty of them that are perfectly fine believing that all of the other planets are spheres.

It doesn't really matter, I always just tell them to lower a GoPro over the edge and let us know what they find down there. I mean if there's an edge there's got to be something under it right? Well they better get going, that award-winning documentary isn't going to make itself.

But I’ve seen plenty of them that are perfectly fine believing that all of the other planets are spheres.

That's fascinating. Why do they think Earth is Not Like The Other Planets?

Having worked with several conspiracy theorists I can tell you with confidence that the reasons are always a disappointment.

The only thing they have to agree on is that they know better than the normies.

The flat earth conspiracy is just made to make money of dumb people. There is nothing more to it and what ever they believe doesn't matter.

Where's the money to be made? Or are they just easily identifiable targets for sale of essential oils, healing crystals and chiropractor gift cards?

Yeah they pay for these conventions, flat earth merch, flat earth messuring tools, maps and a bunch of other crap.

Damn we need a new conspiracy so I can get in on the ground floor and make some cash!

Uhhh, quick everyone, buy these little talismans, they'll protect you from... uhh... Jews? And liberals, yeah. Yeah $200 for the low strength, two for $400 special deal this month only, or you can get the super secret one that also wards off cops for $500. Cash in advance no refunds.

There's no consistency to it. It really depends on the individual.

I think you'll find that flat earthers from all around the globe are in total agreement.

Flat earthers are just nutjobs that don't even agree with each other. There us no point to investigate them.

I'm definitely not a Flat Earther, but I watched a documentary about them and a lot of them seem to think the Earth is flat and the sky is like a glass dome, and the other stars and planets are presumably just projected onto the dome somehow? Kind of like this: https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/flat-earth-1.jpg

As for what's beyond the dome or why nobody's ever encountered the edge of it, I honestly couldn't tell you lol.

I used to work with a flat earther and this is the description he gave. He was raised Christian and attended a Christian college, so I guess he was never taught much science.

I think a significant portion of them are taking the piss out of the true believers.

Like out of 100 of them, there are 10 that actually believe, and 90 that are just fucking with them.

Maybe none of them are true believers and they're all just fucking with us.

That's my stance. Best part is, they can never prove to me that they actually believe, I can just outright deny the same way they do about everything.

Your stance brings me joy. I'm adopting it.

I don't think flat-earthers are capable of indulging in concepts like other planets. They're entire personalities are completely dedicated to indulging in their silly "theories" and insisting that it's important.

For example, have you ever asked a flat earther what possible incentive could there be for "the government" to lie about the shape of the Earth? The only answer they've ever given me is "control", then they get very smug as if this someone proved something and won't really discuss it any further. I don't think they're capable of imagining anything beyond that.

I can't imagine how the shape of our planet can be used to control us. I mean, if the earth was neither round nor flat, but.... I don't know, toroidal. How would that affect our behavior?

Is non-Euclidean geometry more likely to make the population docile?

And why not use the flat earth as a form of control? Since that vision is much more limited than the traditional one, since there is no space, no gravity, no planets, no stars and no cosmos. Just what you can see and nothing more.

The closest thing to an explanation I've ever gotten was "it's about control of information maaaaaan!!!! Wake up and stop listening to the LIES!"

I chose to end the conversation at that point

Aren't all of those just fake images the government displays on the dome LCD covering the world inside ice walls? If they were real they would have dropped out of the sky already.

As I’ve heard it, they believe that other planets are around because they can be observed. Any observation of the earth being round is a lie.

These people are crazy

Uses telescope to observe Mars

Yup, that's round.

Is taken up into space to look down at the round Earth

No, it's still flat. The windows are curved to make it look round.

Is taken to Mars with the same telescope and it's pointed at Earth

The glass on the telescope is round, which makes the Earth look round.

If you're trying to apply reason to the theory, I think you're misunderstanding the theory.

When you dig to the roots of flat earth, it's a "don't trust the secret globalist government feeding you lies" kind of thing (Aka a dog whistle for antisemitism)

Pff Jews aren't even real. The government invented them to control the population.

"all antisemitic conspiracy theories are deliberately introduced cognitohazards from the illuminati to control the populace" is the best conspiracy theory regarding jewish folk i've ever seen.

I can never tell what they really believe. But I once saw a picture about flat earthers.

It basically said other planets are round because they have been observed to be round. But Earth is flat because it has not been observed to be round.

Though if they did see Earth from afar, I'm sure there would be some excuse as to why it's fake.

To them photographs are all made with fisheye lenses which is why only the earth looks round and distorted but fucking nothing else in the same frame.

The claim is "Earth isn't a planet", sometimes with the addition of "space isn't real".