This guy is going to start WW3 because he needs to stay in power, and Biden is too much of a chickenshit to rein him in.
On top of Biden not doing anything useful here, Trump and the Republicans would gift them a red carpet while padding their stock portfolios with weapons manufacturers to make money on it.
I hate this timeline. Bibi’s the one needing regime change.
Biden isn't chickenshit. He's a super zionist. He's completely 100% on board with the genocidal mission.
World War
Unlikely.
A middle eastern proxy war is likely, but the west putting boots on the ground is pretty much out of the question.
"The secretary also increased the readiness of additional U.S. forces to deploy, elevating our preparedness to respond to various contingencies," Pentagon spokesperson Sabrina Singh told reporters Monday.
Ehhhh…..
Israel is making this threat because the U.S. is sending more people to the region. Israel’s insanity and posturing is enabled by the U.S. putting itself in a position to be committed.
We already know Russia has assets in Syria and is fighting a proxy war with both the U.S. and Ukraine there.
I do really worry that America would put boots on the ground in the event of an open Iran-Israel war. Especially if Iran starts winning.
the west putting boots on the ground is pretty much out of the question.
I stopped making predictions about that part of the world a long time ago.
At this point Israel needs to go, it’s an enemy of world peace.
At this point Israel needs to go
Go where? If you have a plan, let's hear it.
Away. Same as Rhodesia.
Or apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany, West and East Germany, Yugoslavia, South Vietnam, Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, the USSR, etc. Countries change all the time. Normal people don't care they just keep on living their lives. They're just lines on a map. It's weird people don't understand this.
Once more, where?
Look up Rhodesia, some stayed, some emigrated.
There is zero reason to keep a genocidal terrorist ethnostate in control anywhere in the world.
So you don't have an answer, just say that then and stop wasting my time.
You were literally given an answer.
No, once again ... where do you want 10,000,000 Israelis to go?
Okay, unblock your ears and fucking listen this time.
They can stay in the new state, or emigrate to another country.
Like I’ve told you multiple times, they can do the same thing that happened last time an ethnostate was destroyed.
So your grand plan is that people can either stay or go. If they stay then what? If they go then, once again, WHERE?
You can't just rock up at a different country and start making yourself at home, you realize that, right?
I've re-read your comments, you don't have a plan, your bullshitting and now you're getting pissy because I pressed you for details you don't have because you don't know what you're talking about.
And yet that’s exactly what the once known as Rhodesians did.
You’re trying really hard to ignore the literal example of this having happened before already to, pretend that it cannot happen ever.
I don't like to block people here but fuck it, you're a waste of my time.
??? He literally just said, they want Israel as a country to no longer exist.
What about the 10,000,000 Israelis, where do they go? OP was just banging on about Rhodesia and not answering a simple question.
Same place the rhodesians went. Many stayed in the new country (Zimbabwe), many immigrated away to surrounding countries or Europe. In the case of Israel a simikar situation can happen, and mang Israelis are dual citizens.
OK, and how to do propose this frankly deranged and unworkable plan is put into effect? A full scale invasion of Israel? By whom? What about the Israelis who don't have dual citizenship?
I'm asking for details from you and OP. All I'm getting is vague hand waving.
Give it back to Britain, or since it’s basically a US state elect someone willing to put the boot down. Those without dual citizenship cna become citizens of the new country / territory.
Do you really think Britain is going to open its doors to potentially millions of immigrants?
That's a complete non-starter. Same with electing a US president who would entertain what you're proposing.
This idea of a majority Jewish state, kept so through military occupation of Arab-dense territories, needs to simply go away.
I’m a one-state solution guy. Let everyone there practice their religion in peace and access their holy sites freely, and let democracy reign.
Israel’s big sin is that they want democracy BUT only with a majority Jewish population and an official state religion etc etc etc. It’s more than a Jewish homeland - it’s an ethnostate.
That is what needs to end. It doesn’t go somewhere else. No one gets pushed into the sea. We just stop pretending like we can use arms to carve out the “democracy” we want, and Israelis and Palestinians all live in a state that guarantees their freedom and safety.
Some fear that extremists will rise and take over that pluralistic society: build a constitution that prevents this. Embrace pluralism. Marshall Plan the fuck out of Gaza until the Palestinians see they have more to lose than their misery.
How do you propose your plan survives the inevitable waves of suicide bombers when you remove the walls and checkpoints?
Do you force the settlers to give the land back?
How do you deal with the hardliners on both sides who would do everything in their power to foil your plan? What if those people have popular support and your plan doesn't?
Does Palestine simply cease to exist as it's incorporated into Israel? What do you do about the Palestinians who would argue you're trying to erase their culture and identity?
Who pays to rebuild Gaza?
Do we call it a day and let those accused of war crimes off the hook or do we hold them to account?
Don't go there.
If people would've had these opinions on Germany after WW2 that would've went really bad.
Germany has been rehabilitated not perfectly but imo rather well.
I think it is possible for Israel/Palestine as well.
Or are you suggesting to genocide Israelis like their government is doing to Palestinians right now?
That'd be pretty fucked up, don't you think?
The state of Germany as it were no longer exists. It was literally deleted. This doesn't mean that all of Germany was genocided. You just cooked up a worst case of your own head and projected it onto op.
Oh fuck off.
Calling for the removal of a state is not a call for genocide.
I’m so sick of this false equivalency in defense of an actual ongoing genocide by perpetrated by Israel.
Read my comments. I am not defending the genocide. Just not a big fan of the removal of any states or people.
Your rage is directed in the wrong direction.
People did have these opinions after WW2. They removed nazis from poland, france, russia, etc. Similarly, if zionists refuse to accept freedom, equality, etc., then they're free to return to their actual "homelands" in europe, asia, africa, etc. for rehabilitation.
80% of Israeli Jews were born in Israel, they do not have an "actual home" to go back to
Thank God they didn't gain the upper hand.
I think "Israel" needs to be demilitarized and dezionified so that they cannot hurt anyone else. The people responsible for the genocide and crimes against the Palestinian people need to be tried in a court.
Let an international alliance govern the affairs of a new state of Palestinians and Jews willing to live together in piece. Everyone else who wants to continue the violence can fuck Off.
I don't understand why I am being downvoted for this except that maybe some of these people screaming for peace here actually just want to reverse the killing.
would've went
Maybe just "would've gone", if I'm speaking English.
Or are you suggesting to genocide Israelis
I think one can stop propping them up and emboldening them to attack every neighbouring country on the shittiest of sham pretexts, and prevent their repeated belligerent invasions of other sovereign nations without going as far as actually attacking them back, let-fucking-alone going all the way to genocide.
That's a bit of a leap, don't ya think? I've seen goalposts move, but that's a little ridiculous.
Thank you for correcting me in such a condescending way. Not everyone is a native speaker, doesn't mean I don't speak English.
Look at the comment I am replying to. The literally said Israel must go. What is that implicating? Certainly not Israel needs to be rehabilitated, like Nazi Germany, which is what I am advocating for here.
Reading your second paragraph, we seem to agree.
It's the Comment I am replying to that seems to want Israel gone. How do you make that happen, without eradicating or displacing them (both of which is considered genocide)?
Thank you for correcting me in such a condescending way.
That's an assumption. Am I psychic?
Not everyone is a native speaker, doesn't mean I don't speak English.
Non-native speakers usually write English really well. Should I know your background and education and your intent like I'm psychic, or should I hope everyone does something correctly and look toward that as a goal?
Sorry I didn't measure up to the next layer of goalposts!
Says the Russia supporter...
Wut?
Do you just pick random things to insult people with?
Fuck Russia, Fuck Israel, and all the other shit cunts out there.
Ukraine and Palestine will prevail.
Says the guy who likes pineapple on pizza, smh...
I gotta be honest, I don’t hate it.
Says the guy that doesn't like the LOTR trilogy...
He likes pineapple on pizza? Oh then his opinion matters more to me cause I too like food crimes involving fruit.
Pizza is already using fruit as its main component
I think the main component of pizza is bread but you bring up a valid point
Oh, is he thinking of start a third war to prolong his own genocidal regime?
Syria better be on alert. I really feel like Bibi is eying the Kingdom of David at its largest as far as potential war targets go at this point.
It seems pretty clear that he’s past the thinking stage.
Germany started wwii cause of “unfinished business” from wwi.
Israel conflict is kind of unfinished business from wwii.
We can’t just assume people will forget about these things.
This just in, Israel shipping phones to Iran
with all those products in circulation I think I'll keep my current phone for a long time
Wouldn’t it be funny if Israel got the regime change in Iran and then America realised it no longer need Israel at all
Nah they have that water passage. And America is all about our boats. Any access to water is going to remain secure and open if we can help it.
I am failing to recognise if this is satire or not.
Maybe my geography is too bad, but what waterway are you talking about? Israel is not strategically significant four the Suez canal, is it?
will be in and out ... should take a couple of weeks.
Somehow i feel i have just heard this story
Hey, Israel just needs a little living space.
He has concepts of a coup?
Let’s go. In and out. 20 minute adventure
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This fucking guy starting WW3 with weapons they cant even afford. Why do we keep sending weapons to this lunatic.
He cannot seriously believe the things he is saying.
And I cannot imagine someone having the absolute gall to make an international address and blatantly lie to the face of every person around the world.
I don't think he was trying to lie. I think he was making a threat
Oh no he wasn't lieing, he's threatening and promising. Whether it happens, history will tell, but I know he believes what he is saying.
These guys are creating a horrific futures for them. They are violent and reckless. Nothing to do with what humanity should be in the future. Almost all intelligence surveillance companies are from Israel.
One day they should read what happened to the ancient assyrians who followed similar policies of pissing off absolutely everyone around them
Learning about that now listening to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History. Didn't expect the episodes to be so long with how highly recommended it was lol.
Hch is great. I loved listening to them on my commute
That guy is reminding me more and more of Hitler every day
I can't say I ever expected to see the Grand Ayatollah as a Stalin metaphor
Here a comedian was fired (he had a radio chronicle) just because he compared Benyamin to "a kind of nazi, but without foreskin"...
Genocidal madman threatens to kill genocidal madman.
What genocide is iran committing?
“Death to Israel” and the like.
I think his regime with end first
A rabid dog.
Iran’s last change in ruler was barely noticeable: one ancient dude in a turban for another with almost the same name. I’m sure the next will be similarly unnewsworthy.
Aaaand he jinxed it...
how is that working out for ya bibi
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This guy is going to start WW3 because he needs to stay in power, and Biden is too much of a chickenshit to rein him in.
On top of Biden not doing anything useful here, Trump and the Republicans would gift them a red carpet while padding their stock portfolios with weapons manufacturers to make money on it.
I hate this timeline. Bibi’s the one needing regime change.
Biden isn't chickenshit. He's a super zionist. He's completely 100% on board with the genocidal mission.
Unlikely.
A middle eastern proxy war is likely, but the west putting boots on the ground is pretty much out of the question.
Military.com: Thousands More US Troops, Attack Aircraft Heading to Middle East as Israel Targets Hezbollah in Lebanon
Ehhhh….. Israel is making this threat because the U.S. is sending more people to the region. Israel’s insanity and posturing is enabled by the U.S. putting itself in a position to be committed.
We already know Russia has assets in Syria and is fighting a proxy war with both the U.S. and Ukraine there.
I do really worry that America would put boots on the ground in the event of an open Iran-Israel war. Especially if Iran starts winning.
I stopped making predictions about that part of the world a long time ago.
At this point Israel needs to go, it’s an enemy of world peace.
Go where? If you have a plan, let's hear it.
Away. Same as Rhodesia.
Or apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany, West and East Germany, Yugoslavia, South Vietnam, Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, the USSR, etc. Countries change all the time. Normal people don't care they just keep on living their lives. They're just lines on a map. It's weird people don't understand this.
Once more, where?
Look up Rhodesia, some stayed, some emigrated.
There is zero reason to keep a genocidal terrorist ethnostate in control anywhere in the world.
So you don't have an answer, just say that then and stop wasting my time.
You were literally given an answer.
No, once again ... where do you want 10,000,000 Israelis to go?
Okay, unblock your ears and fucking listen this time.
They can stay in the new state, or emigrate to another country.
Like I’ve told you multiple times, they can do the same thing that happened last time an ethnostate was destroyed.
So your grand plan is that people can either stay or go. If they stay then what? If they go then, once again, WHERE?
You can't just rock up at a different country and start making yourself at home, you realize that, right?
I've re-read your comments, you don't have a plan, your bullshitting and now you're getting pissy because I pressed you for details you don't have because you don't know what you're talking about.
And yet that’s exactly what the once known as Rhodesians did.
You’re trying really hard to ignore the literal example of this having happened before already to, pretend that it cannot happen ever.
I don't like to block people here but fuck it, you're a waste of my time.
??? He literally just said, they want Israel as a country to no longer exist.
What about the 10,000,000 Israelis, where do they go? OP was just banging on about Rhodesia and not answering a simple question.
Same place the rhodesians went. Many stayed in the new country (Zimbabwe), many immigrated away to surrounding countries or Europe. In the case of Israel a simikar situation can happen, and mang Israelis are dual citizens.
OK, and how to do propose this frankly deranged and unworkable plan is put into effect? A full scale invasion of Israel? By whom? What about the Israelis who don't have dual citizenship?
I'm asking for details from you and OP. All I'm getting is vague hand waving.
Give it back to Britain, or since it’s basically a US state elect someone willing to put the boot down. Those without dual citizenship cna become citizens of the new country / territory.
Do you really think Britain is going to open its doors to potentially millions of immigrants?
That's a complete non-starter. Same with electing a US president who would entertain what you're proposing.
Well, I have a plan and I’ll tell you what it is.
This idea of a majority Jewish state, kept so through military occupation of Arab-dense territories, needs to simply go away.
I’m a one-state solution guy. Let everyone there practice their religion in peace and access their holy sites freely, and let democracy reign.
Israel’s big sin is that they want democracy BUT only with a majority Jewish population and an official state religion etc etc etc. It’s more than a Jewish homeland - it’s an ethnostate.
That is what needs to end. It doesn’t go somewhere else. No one gets pushed into the sea. We just stop pretending like we can use arms to carve out the “democracy” we want, and Israelis and Palestinians all live in a state that guarantees their freedom and safety.
Some fear that extremists will rise and take over that pluralistic society: build a constitution that prevents this. Embrace pluralism. Marshall Plan the fuck out of Gaza until the Palestinians see they have more to lose than their misery.
How do you propose your plan survives the inevitable waves of suicide bombers when you remove the walls and checkpoints?
Do you force the settlers to give the land back?
How do you deal with the hardliners on both sides who would do everything in their power to foil your plan? What if those people have popular support and your plan doesn't?
Does Palestine simply cease to exist as it's incorporated into Israel? What do you do about the Palestinians who would argue you're trying to erase their culture and identity?
Who pays to rebuild Gaza?
Do we call it a day and let those accused of war crimes off the hook or do we hold them to account?
Don't go there. If people would've had these opinions on Germany after WW2 that would've went really bad. Germany has been rehabilitated not perfectly but imo rather well. I think it is possible for Israel/Palestine as well.
Or are you suggesting to genocide Israelis like their government is doing to Palestinians right now? That'd be pretty fucked up, don't you think?
The state of Germany as it were no longer exists. It was literally deleted. This doesn't mean that all of Germany was genocided. You just cooked up a worst case of your own head and projected it onto op.
Oh fuck off.
Calling for the removal of a state is not a call for genocide.
I’m so sick of this false equivalency in defense of an actual ongoing genocide by perpetrated by Israel.
Read my comments. I am not defending the genocide. Just not a big fan of the removal of any states or people. Your rage is directed in the wrong direction.
People did have these opinions after WW2. They removed nazis from poland, france, russia, etc. Similarly, if zionists refuse to accept freedom, equality, etc., then they're free to return to their actual "homelands" in europe, asia, africa, etc. for rehabilitation.
80% of Israeli Jews were born in Israel, they do not have an "actual home" to go back to
Thank God they didn't gain the upper hand.
I think "Israel" needs to be demilitarized and dezionified so that they cannot hurt anyone else. The people responsible for the genocide and crimes against the Palestinian people need to be tried in a court. Let an international alliance govern the affairs of a new state of Palestinians and Jews willing to live together in piece. Everyone else who wants to continue the violence can fuck Off.
I don't understand why I am being downvoted for this except that maybe some of these people screaming for peace here actually just want to reverse the killing.
Maybe just "would've gone", if I'm speaking English.
I think one can stop propping them up and emboldening them to attack every neighbouring country on the shittiest of sham pretexts, and prevent their repeated belligerent invasions of other sovereign nations without going as far as actually attacking them back, let-fucking-alone going all the way to genocide.
That's a bit of a leap, don't ya think? I've seen goalposts move, but that's a little ridiculous.
Thank you for correcting me in such a condescending way. Not everyone is a native speaker, doesn't mean I don't speak English.
Look at the comment I am replying to. The literally said Israel must go. What is that implicating? Certainly not Israel needs to be rehabilitated, like Nazi Germany, which is what I am advocating for here.
Reading your second paragraph, we seem to agree.
It's the Comment I am replying to that seems to want Israel gone. How do you make that happen, without eradicating or displacing them (both of which is considered genocide)?
That's an assumption. Am I psychic?
Non-native speakers usually write English really well. Should I know your background and education and your intent like I'm psychic, or should I hope everyone does something correctly and look toward that as a goal?
Sorry I didn't measure up to the next layer of goalposts!
Says the Russia supporter...
Wut?
Do you just pick random things to insult people with?
Fuck Russia, Fuck Israel, and all the other shit cunts out there.
Ukraine and Palestine will prevail.
Says the guy who likes pineapple on pizza, smh...
I gotta be honest, I don’t hate it.
Says the guy that doesn't like the LOTR trilogy...
He likes pineapple on pizza? Oh then his opinion matters more to me cause I too like food crimes involving fruit.
Pizza is already using fruit as its main component
I think the main component of pizza is bread but you bring up a valid point
Grain is also fruit, botanically speaking.
Dammit I've been technically corrected!
Oh, is he thinking of start a third war to prolong his own genocidal regime?
Syria better be on alert. I really feel like Bibi is eying the Kingdom of David at its largest as far as potential war targets go at this point.
It seems pretty clear that he’s past the thinking stage.
Germany started wwii cause of “unfinished business” from wwi.
Israel conflict is kind of unfinished business from wwii.
We can’t just assume people will forget about these things.
This just in, Israel shipping phones to Iran
with all those products in circulation I think I'll keep my current phone for a long time
Wouldn’t it be funny if Israel got the regime change in Iran and then America realised it no longer need Israel at all
Nah they have that water passage. And America is all about our boats. Any access to water is going to remain secure and open if we can help it.
I am failing to recognise if this is satire or not. Maybe my geography is too bad, but what waterway are you talking about? Israel is not strategically significant four the Suez canal, is it?
will be in and out ... should take a couple of weeks. Somehow i feel i have just heard this story
Hey, Israel just needs a little living space.
He has concepts of a coup?
Let’s go. In and out. 20 minute adventure
Warning NotSafeForSanity:
This fucking guy starting WW3 with weapons they cant even afford. Why do we keep sending weapons to this lunatic.
He cannot seriously believe the things he is saying.
And I cannot imagine someone having the absolute gall to make an international address and blatantly lie to the face of every person around the world.
I don't think he was trying to lie. I think he was making a threat
Oh no he wasn't lieing, he's threatening and promising. Whether it happens, history will tell, but I know he believes what he is saying.
These guys are creating a horrific futures for them. They are violent and reckless. Nothing to do with what humanity should be in the future. Almost all intelligence surveillance companies are from Israel.
One day they should read what happened to the ancient assyrians who followed similar policies of pissing off absolutely everyone around them
Learning about that now listening to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History. Didn't expect the episodes to be so long with how highly recommended it was lol.
Hch is great. I loved listening to them on my commute
That guy is reminding me more and more of Hitler every day
I can't say I ever expected to see the Grand Ayatollah as a Stalin metaphor
Here a comedian was fired (he had a radio chronicle) just because he compared Benyamin to "a kind of nazi, but without foreskin"...
Genocidal madman threatens to kill genocidal madman.
What genocide is iran committing?
“Death to Israel” and the like.
I think his regime with end first
A rabid dog.
Iran’s last change in ruler was barely noticeable: one ancient dude in a turban for another with almost the same name. I’m sure the next will be similarly unnewsworthy.
Aaaand he jinxed it...
how is that working out for ya bibi
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