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frankramblings@reddthat.com to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 703 points –
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I thought this was on a loop but when it finally hit I was totally caught off guard.

Trump is gunna die of a heart attack the day before he gets convicted and no one is gunna know how to feel about it.

i think i know how i feel about trumps death.

Yeah obviously.

But the day before he got convicted? 2 days after that, or hell, years ago, no complicated feelings at all.

I would feel like he somehow died to get out of being convicted lmao

Even if he gets convicted, I wouldn't put it past a centrist Democrat to pardon him for unity or some bullshit.

How would the left take something like that?

Like, say Georgia's pardon board is bribed and they pardon him. What happens then?

I don't think the left would be very surprised, we'd just keep focusing on direct action. Centrist Democrats already DGAF if we're mad.

Liberals would call it "unacceptable" for a few months, maybe do a couple protests, and then continue to vote for the people who got him pardoned.

Nothing would change.

Isn't anyone disturbed by that? Without extreme action from the left and no legal pushback from the Democrats, that would mean the right could do whatever the hell it wants without consequence, including genocide.

Why aren't we overthrowing them?

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They've been saying shit since he got elected. Like honestly, shit or get off the pot.

Well, you can't arrest a sitting president, and Senate was majority Republican and they tow the party line so yeah most Democrats could do was impeach and let the Republicans bail him out

But now he's not president, and has to face the courts as a citizen. The investigators aren't going to rush a case like this, but you also can't risk it going over to the election before getting a conviction. Honestly the timing on all this seems pretty on point

A sitting president has been arrested

Not a US President

Yes, Ulysses S. Grant was arrested for riding his horse recklessly through the streets of DC. He was arrested, fined, and released. This happened while he was president. However, since it was a minor incident in the grand scheme of things, it isn't really a precedent to hang your hat on.

And he applauded the cop that did it, because he was right.

Of course, Grant had one of the most corrupt administrations in US governmental history, but, ya know.

He wasn't that kind of asshole.

Just appointed a bunch of relatives to positions they didn't deserve at taxpayer expense, openly profiteered, and sold access to his position, policies, and pardons.

Hey, wait a minute...

U S Grant was arrested while in office. The arrest did not lead to a constitutional crisis.

True, but the consensus among legal scholars is that it's not a binding precedent. I don't remember the reasoning behind it.

Criminal investigations take time under the best of circumstances. These are not the best of circumstances.

It's not the investigators who are creating the hype, it's the media. And the media does it because the think it sells. 'Effin BBC had live coverage of this dude arriving to his last court hearing, including his plane landing, wtf?! Who watches this shit in a country which has nothing to do with that idiot?

Murder investigations can take years to get the person responsible on for trial even when in hindsight the evidence makes it seem obvious who did it.

This isn't a murder obviously but it is multiple messy messy cases with lots of moving delicate parts that as people who have never done a criminal investigation can't even imagine. I wouldn't want to rush into a case and end up bungling it because I didn't take my time.

real life isn't Suits where charges are brought and a week later you are in a court.

also Suits had less fascism than thebUS has currently

It will soon get to the point to where he'll spend life in prison, if it isn't already at that point.

As time goes on, the likelihood of that increases.

Y, bc hes old. Like all politicians. Get a grandchild already and kindly fuck off out of politics.

He has grandchildren. I assume he cares about them even less than he cared about his own children.

He only likes family members that he wants to fuck, but being married to them is a bit of a turnoff.

I am tired of Earth. These people. I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives.

Look, this isn't half-life 3 we're talking about here. It's going to happen, just keep your pants on.

And I’ve been told I’ll find a loving girlfriend but that sure as hell hasn’t happen.

Are you certain they weren't just being nice when they said that?

They are, whenever anyone says something “vague but nice”, they usually don’t mean it.

It is what it is.

he' planning to prove his innocence, which means he'll get his followers to cause chaos.

It's August 14, 2023. He's getting indicted. Interlinked.

Do you dream of one day conviction? Interlinked.

Within cells interlinked?

Why don't you say that three times: Within cells interlinked.

This is one recurring thing I can't get enough of. Please let Dr. Manhattan continue to list indictments.