Crazy how much shit dropped on LTT simply from a gamer nexus video. It’s beautiful
I mean that shit was steamy. And Steve was so pissed, for a dude whose usually pretty chill, it really said a lot about the gravity of his accusations.
Every once in a while Steve gets visibly upset about corporate misbehavior, but I've been watching GN for a few years, and the news segment where he was replying to Linus's dismissive forum post is the angriest I've ever seen him.
You mean, he had expression in his voice?! 😂 lol.. I like Steve
And all this because LMG started the war by calling them shit. You get what's coming to you eventually, I guess.
Glass houses
It's like Harvey Weinstein, people in the industry knew he was a slimy piece of shit for years but he wielded too much power and speaking out was the death of your career. So few did.
Once it was out in the public press, the floodgates of people coming forward with similar stories opened up.
Absolutely not. I'm not even sure rn he is an inherently bad person and not just a guy with a lot of shit on his back at his breaking point.
Have you seen the statements from a former employee?
Yeah so why doesn't this piped bot pause until it's working again, if ever? Lol
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Imo none of this is even remotely news to me, one of LTTs most popular videos is that "I've never been this angry at someone and fired them before" where he had taken some new guy to go to his house and install a bunch of writing and stuff, totally outside any and all expectations of his job, and he'd done a not so stellar job, and it's like, what did you expect? He's not an electrician, he was like some sort of video editor or something? And you're the fucking CEO? How do you think the guy felt? Oh right, you don't give a single fuck. I don't know man, that's giving of some small business owner psychopath vibes.
Yeah, that one hit me weird also. Like there's videos of him doing installs and stuff at other employees houses, so maybe that's just a culture thing, but it's still weird. Like can you imagine one of the late-night folks making a joke about how the cue card guy screwed up installing his dishwasher, but not meaning it as a joke? Like you don't screw with peoples livelihood.
Like if you had a glass instsall company, and some of your employees did a sloppy job on your personal shower door, you might have a talk with them, implement an improvement plan, etc because it affects clients experiences. What you wouldn't do is put them on blast for views. And that's only because it's relevant to their actual work. Last I checked LTT doesn't offer install services.
Yeah, I saw this coming at least 5 years ago.
It’s the way Linus talks and acts, how their whole business revolves around a parasocial relationship with the viewers.
He actually became what he hated about NCIX so much.
Probably not Forbes headline Linus would have wanted.
To quote a couple of 20th century philosophers: Mick and Keith.
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you might find
You get what you need
Yeah. I don't know if this will produce change, but saying what they're saying is the best first step. I'm sure we'll all be watching for follow through.
Incidently, it's a good thing that Linus Sebastian recently handed over the role of chief executive to an experienced manager. I think it would have been very bad for Linus and the company for someone who has acknowledged being ill suited to running a company to try to handle this.
Going from personal experience working in companies with techbros in charge you cannot fix the culture without removing all management and starting again from scratch.
The fact this happened for so long with LTT I doubt it can be turned around.
It doesn't matter if LS is no longer CEO. The culture he allowed to develop and did nothing to change lands the blame squarely at his feet. As long as he remains there it does not matter what his title is. The company will stay the same.
It doesn't matter. Ownership hasn't changed.. CEOs are still beholden with the board and he has a controlling share. Nobody is dumb enough to pay actual money for a debt laden company that trades on the old owners name.
Having read the article, it's hard to imagine anyone doing a worse job handling the situation.
Needs more click bait.
Title: I did a bad
Description: just plugs for all his channels and sponsor and merch store. Fuck describing the video
Thumbnail: Linus soy face wide open with red arrow pointing to a 💩 emoji. There is a red circle around it.
Dude probably didn’t want a Forbes headline at all. I don’t think his personality holds up well to basic scrutiny for the public at large. If my dad for instance asks me about him he’s already lost.
I think it’s sad. All of it. Linus projected an image of a friendly geek when the channel was smaller. The first cracks I saw in that image appeared after covid in which I assume the channel (just as the rest of youtube) grew extremely.
Since then I noticed „slip ups“ where he went edgy and kind of lost part of his friendliness. I assumed it was because he was overwhelmed with his job as ceo since that job takes a heavy toll. I know from experience.
But the fact that he (and his wife and the new ceo) didn’t do anything against the obvious transgressions that were carried out under his watch (against this vendor as well as former employees, some of which have posted on youtube) is his (their) responsibility.
It’s just sad to see them making the same mistakes (being careless in the wrong department) as others before them.
Truth is, I didn't know of Linus than, was only fan of Louis, but the way Linus was acting throughout that video was just unpleasant for me. I wouldn't wanna be in Louis' shoes than.
Second was recently in that Linux challenge where, I was convinced, he was working hard to find that bug and show to everyone how bas he is. His complaint of Linux was that it allowed him to delete software Linux told him not to delete. Yeah... cool.
Yes, the first one is familiar. I was kind of ok with it at the time but linus‘ condescending demeanor was kind of already obvious. I wrote it off at the time since I‘m autistic and also often get told I come across condescending. There you see why people need labels… we wouldn’t take it as personal if he was openly autistic (which I believe he is).
I didnt see the linux challenge but I saw when he wanted to change his gaming pc. Was it that? I would love if was more positive towards open source and stuff. But he‘s on the other side of the fence I suppose.
Yes Linux Gaming or Linux Daily chalenge, not sure right now but it generated a lot of discussion on the net.
He might be autustic or not, at that time I was giving it a pass since both of them were awkward, but with current discussion I remembered it immediately which is my instict telling me there is a connection.
Yes, I agree. I had that exact feeling as well. At the time it seemed ok but it immediately popped into my head when I heard „condescending“.
With that video you're reading into things that aren't there. Linus is acting it up and Louis looks a bit shy but definitely enjoying the experience.
Yes, that is just mine subjective feeling as someone, at the time, not knowing of LTT but loving Louis.
I think that was Linus being an awkward nerd. I think Louis also mentiond Linus does things differently from him where he did a lot of retakes, which Louis doesn't really do. So Linus probably came off more awkward and weird probably having to cut that down and do more one shots being a guest and all. He's better speaker now than back then. And he's obviously out of his element compared to Louis here, so adding to the awkwardness.
Yes they were both aweful, but somehow Linus got out of that video looking better than Louis.
Louis was the guest, he needs to end up looking good. It is not only recording but montage too.
I remember Louis was defending Linus from people seeing it as bad representation, so this is just my own private opinion - Louis didn't want to go to war with much more popular Linus, that's when his channel exploded in popularly.
As someone who drives Linux on my gaming PC I hated his Linux videos. In all fairness I don't really like either distro he tried but at the end of the day you hand the average person Linux mint and they will be fine imo
My parents and girlfriend have no problem with Mint, if anything else it is easier than Winfows.
I was convinced they gave their best to find what to break, and I get it they generated a lot of 'engagement'.
Remember he went to China with that dude who put a usb on a iPhone?
Yeah again true colours
I'm quite amazed that the majority of people here simply take Madison's allegations seriously and don't pull the usual misogynistic bullshit.
This isn't Reddit
The reaction on Reddit and Lemmy is similar, so their point still stands.
Oh, that's unusual then... I suspect they're on the LTT forum
Yes, the Ltt Forum has a lot of really bad takes. There are a bunch of people who do seem to be reasonable, but I did see some really brain dead things when I checked it out.
The good ol' Linus parrots. Squawk "Steve Burke is a bad journalist because he pointed out errors publicly that affected consumers." Screech "Linus didn't sell the employees internally on the idea that he and his wife were a substitute for HR, he auctioned it."
hahah good one
There is still plenty of the misogynistic bullshit.
So really, it's not just me that found him to be producing smarmy and careless content? My first views were of his various challenges - where they consistently 'proved' that people can't do things in an OS that they don't have experience with, which means they'd be better off doing it in a much worse OS that they used since they were kids - and therefore it's better.
I really liked Nexus's video - though it didn't help me as I wouldn't waste time on LTT. I don't like or trust these coroporate video mills, any more than I trust Google/Youtube - they don't give a toss as long as the money flows and they didn't get sued.
So the careless content didnt really matter much - so long that they were still a tech entertainment youtube channel. But with the advent of LTT Labs, theyre trying to push themselves into a more reputable tech reviewer space and thats where the problems arise.
Recently asked my coworkers. Turns out we all dislike Linus Sebastian and his content.
Turns out we all dislike Linus Sebastian
I read that as "Turns out we all dislike Little Sebastian" and thought "Oh shit, don't let Ron Swanson hear you say that!"
Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
Everyone you like will disappoint you someday. Fuck you Linus.
I just hope Louis Rossman doesn't snap.
Please don't Louis 🥺
Guy basically just puts out anger content now. He's a real hero who's fighting an important fight but he's just inundated with bullshit and seems is stuck seeing everything through shit colored glasses lately.
I also hope he will pull out of this phase.
I even jokingly said to my friend "That's why New York can act badly." thinking with all that shit he was feeling better in NYC.
He accomplished a lot in his life, that is also not easy to accept.
I mean everything goes to shit. 2023 could not get me more pessimistic. 2020 was a bad year, but I still got hope that it is temporary. Now, I see that companies have no limit in screwing their consumers and I can't do anything about it.
It's clear that the working class has lost a considerable amount of power over the last 20 years.
We should be celebrating AI replacing jobs, not terrified of it, you know? Like, clearly far too few are benefiting, and benefiting way too much, on the work of the many.
Not everyone be any means, but if you admire narcissistic extroverts then sure, you’re always going to be disappointed.
I think that's usually the type of person who puts themselves out there in the public's eye to be consumed though
As depressive introvert I can say no one ever got dissapointed in me.
Generally, I've moved to just enjoying people's work and trying not to blindly admire any public figure. It's a constant effort since something in our wiring makes us want to follow people we like. But in today's society I think it's best to just assume everyone is flawed up front. That eases the feelings of betrayal later when they screw up
The YouTube channel Linus Tech Tips is a very large part of the tech space, reviewing, and making videos about technology. This is actually bigger than that as it speaks to Linus media group, of which Linus tech tips is one of many tech related channels.
Don’t really give a shit about the water block thing, sounds like drama for the sake of drama. The toxic environment and sexual harassment allegations are pretty serious though.
You think selling something that isn't yours, after you told the owner you would return it, is drama for the sake of drama?
The water block is just a product that wasn't handled as per the vendor agreement, a sign of weaknesses in internal processes, but not consequential for anyone not involved directly. Like they've had thousands of products through the org and maintained these positive relationships with large vendors. The idea that one time a miscommunication or agreement wasn't handled properly isn't that spectacular or even unusual.
Employees being treated shitty is a labor issue that has ramifications in how anti-discrimination laws are interpreted and applied. There's potential financial consequences for workers and exploitation.
It's also not out of the question the employee who screwed up the vendor agreement in the water block issue, is one of the people trying to bring these workplace discrimination issues to light. I don't think we know that level of detail but the fact that they would basically be forgiven for that, if it was known they were being treated poorly when that happened, shows how the discrimination issue is more significant.
The waterblock issue is less about the fact that it happened and way more about how linus/lmg responded (not at all until called out about it)
They tend to handle things in a pretty terrible way. It reminds me of how certain computer nerds and sysadmin guys talk like they're the smartest people in the world who know everything. Like they just give no credit to the other point of view, that maaaybe you didn't handle that properly.
People sure love drama. If folks paid as much attention to their own lives and own situation as they do to LTT's troubles the world would be a better place.
That's an optimistic viewpoint while also dismissing the issues at hand.
By creating that comment you are the epitome of drama
Crazy how much shit dropped on LTT simply from a gamer nexus video. It’s beautiful
I mean that shit was steamy. And Steve was so pissed, for a dude whose usually pretty chill, it really said a lot about the gravity of his accusations.
Every once in a while Steve gets visibly upset about corporate misbehavior, but I've been watching GN for a few years, and the news segment where he was replying to Linus's dismissive forum post is the angriest I've ever seen him.
You mean, he had expression in his voice?! 😂 lol.. I like Steve
And all this because LMG started the war by calling them shit. You get what's coming to you eventually, I guess.
Glass houses
It's like Harvey Weinstein, people in the industry knew he was a slimy piece of shit for years but he wielded too much power and speaking out was the death of your career. So few did.
Once it was out in the public press, the floodgates of people coming forward with similar stories opened up.
Absolutely not. I'm not even sure rn he is an inherently bad person and not just a guy with a lot of shit on his back at his breaking point.
Have you seen the statements from a former employee?
Here is a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJBctrl3GZI
This is not the actions of "just a guy with a lot of shit on his back at his breaking point."
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Imo none of this is even remotely news to me, one of LTTs most popular videos is that "I've never been this angry at someone and fired them before" where he had taken some new guy to go to his house and install a bunch of writing and stuff, totally outside any and all expectations of his job, and he'd done a not so stellar job, and it's like, what did you expect? He's not an electrician, he was like some sort of video editor or something? And you're the fucking CEO? How do you think the guy felt? Oh right, you don't give a single fuck. I don't know man, that's giving of some small business owner psychopath vibes.
Yeah, that one hit me weird also. Like there's videos of him doing installs and stuff at other employees houses, so maybe that's just a culture thing, but it's still weird. Like can you imagine one of the late-night folks making a joke about how the cue card guy screwed up installing his dishwasher, but not meaning it as a joke? Like you don't screw with peoples livelihood.
Like if you had a glass instsall company, and some of your employees did a sloppy job on your personal shower door, you might have a talk with them, implement an improvement plan, etc because it affects clients experiences. What you wouldn't do is put them on blast for views. And that's only because it's relevant to their actual work. Last I checked LTT doesn't offer install services.
Yeah, I saw this coming at least 5 years ago.
It’s the way Linus talks and acts, how their whole business revolves around a parasocial relationship with the viewers.
He actually became what he hated about NCIX so much.
Probably not Forbes headline Linus would have wanted.
To quote a couple of 20th century philosophers: Mick and Keith.
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you might find
You get what you need
Yeah. I don't know if this will produce change, but saying what they're saying is the best first step. I'm sure we'll all be watching for follow through.
Incidently, it's a good thing that Linus Sebastian recently handed over the role of chief executive to an experienced manager. I think it would have been very bad for Linus and the company for someone who has acknowledged being ill suited to running a company to try to handle this.
Going from personal experience working in companies with techbros in charge you cannot fix the culture without removing all management and starting again from scratch.
The fact this happened for so long with LTT I doubt it can be turned around.
It doesn't matter if LS is no longer CEO. The culture he allowed to develop and did nothing to change lands the blame squarely at his feet. As long as he remains there it does not matter what his title is. The company will stay the same.
It doesn't matter. Ownership hasn't changed.. CEOs are still beholden with the board and he has a controlling share. Nobody is dumb enough to pay actual money for a debt laden company that trades on the old owners name.
Having read the article, it's hard to imagine anyone doing a worse job handling the situation.
Needs more click bait.
Title: I did a bad
Description: just plugs for all his channels and sponsor and merch store. Fuck describing the video
Thumbnail: Linus soy face wide open with red arrow pointing to a 💩 emoji. There is a red circle around it.
Dude probably didn’t want a Forbes headline at all. I don’t think his personality holds up well to basic scrutiny for the public at large. If my dad for instance asks me about him he’s already lost.
I think it’s sad. All of it. Linus projected an image of a friendly geek when the channel was smaller. The first cracks I saw in that image appeared after covid in which I assume the channel (just as the rest of youtube) grew extremely.
Since then I noticed „slip ups“ where he went edgy and kind of lost part of his friendliness. I assumed it was because he was overwhelmed with his job as ceo since that job takes a heavy toll. I know from experience.
But the fact that he (and his wife and the new ceo) didn’t do anything against the obvious transgressions that were carried out under his watch (against this vendor as well as former employees, some of which have posted on youtube) is his (their) responsibility.
It’s just sad to see them making the same mistakes (being careless in the wrong department) as others before them.
For me it was visit to Louis Rossman https://youtube.com/watch?v=Shn7LdIrViQ
Truth is, I didn't know of Linus than, was only fan of Louis, but the way Linus was acting throughout that video was just unpleasant for me. I wouldn't wanna be in Louis' shoes than.
Second was recently in that Linux challenge where, I was convinced, he was working hard to find that bug and show to everyone how bas he is. His complaint of Linux was that it allowed him to delete software Linux told him not to delete. Yeah... cool.
Yes, the first one is familiar. I was kind of ok with it at the time but linus‘ condescending demeanor was kind of already obvious. I wrote it off at the time since I‘m autistic and also often get told I come across condescending. There you see why people need labels… we wouldn’t take it as personal if he was openly autistic (which I believe he is).
I didnt see the linux challenge but I saw when he wanted to change his gaming pc. Was it that? I would love if was more positive towards open source and stuff. But he‘s on the other side of the fence I suppose.
Yes Linux Gaming or Linux Daily chalenge, not sure right now but it generated a lot of discussion on the net.
He might be autustic or not, at that time I was giving it a pass since both of them were awkward, but with current discussion I remembered it immediately which is my instict telling me there is a connection.
Yes, I agree. I had that exact feeling as well. At the time it seemed ok but it immediately popped into my head when I heard „condescending“.
With that video you're reading into things that aren't there. Linus is acting it up and Louis looks a bit shy but definitely enjoying the experience.
Yes, that is just mine subjective feeling as someone, at the time, not knowing of LTT but loving Louis.
I think that was Linus being an awkward nerd. I think Louis also mentiond Linus does things differently from him where he did a lot of retakes, which Louis doesn't really do. So Linus probably came off more awkward and weird probably having to cut that down and do more one shots being a guest and all. He's better speaker now than back then. And he's obviously out of his element compared to Louis here, so adding to the awkwardness.
Yes they were both aweful, but somehow Linus got out of that video looking better than Louis.
Louis was the guest, he needs to end up looking good. It is not only recording but montage too.
I remember Louis was defending Linus from people seeing it as bad representation, so this is just my own private opinion - Louis didn't want to go to war with much more popular Linus, that's when his channel exploded in popularly.
As someone who drives Linux on my gaming PC I hated his Linux videos. In all fairness I don't really like either distro he tried but at the end of the day you hand the average person Linux mint and they will be fine imo
My parents and girlfriend have no problem with Mint, if anything else it is easier than Winfows.
I was convinced they gave their best to find what to break, and I get it they generated a lot of 'engagement'.
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Remember he went to China with that dude who put a usb on a iPhone?
Yeah again true colours
I'm quite amazed that the majority of people here simply take Madison's allegations seriously and don't pull the usual misogynistic bullshit.
This isn't Reddit
The reaction on Reddit and Lemmy is similar, so their point still stands.
Oh, that's unusual then... I suspect they're on the LTT forum
Yes, the Ltt Forum has a lot of really bad takes. There are a bunch of people who do seem to be reasonable, but I did see some really brain dead things when I checked it out.
The good ol' Linus parrots. Squawk "Steve Burke is a bad journalist because he pointed out errors publicly that affected consumers." Screech "Linus didn't sell the employees internally on the idea that he and his wife were a substitute for HR, he auctioned it."
hahah good one
There is still plenty of the misogynistic bullshit.
So really, it's not just me that found him to be producing smarmy and careless content? My first views were of his various challenges - where they consistently 'proved' that people can't do things in an OS that they don't have experience with, which means they'd be better off doing it in a much worse OS that they used since they were kids - and therefore it's better.
I really liked Nexus's video - though it didn't help me as I wouldn't waste time on LTT. I don't like or trust these coroporate video mills, any more than I trust Google/Youtube - they don't give a toss as long as the money flows and they didn't get sued.
So the careless content didnt really matter much - so long that they were still a tech entertainment youtube channel. But with the advent of LTT Labs, theyre trying to push themselves into a more reputable tech reviewer space and thats where the problems arise.
Recently asked my coworkers. Turns out we all dislike Linus Sebastian and his content.
I read that as "Turns out we all dislike Little Sebastian" and thought "Oh shit, don't let Ron Swanson hear you say that!"
Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
Everyone you like will disappoint you someday. Fuck you Linus.
I just hope Louis Rossman doesn't snap.
Please don't Louis 🥺
Guy basically just puts out anger content now. He's a real hero who's fighting an important fight but he's just inundated with bullshit and seems is stuck seeing everything through shit colored glasses lately.
I also hope he will pull out of this phase.
I even jokingly said to my friend "That's why New York can act badly." thinking with all that shit he was feeling better in NYC.
He accomplished a lot in his life, that is also not easy to accept.
I mean everything goes to shit. 2023 could not get me more pessimistic. 2020 was a bad year, but I still got hope that it is temporary. Now, I see that companies have no limit in screwing their consumers and I can't do anything about it.
It's clear that the working class has lost a considerable amount of power over the last 20 years.
We should be celebrating AI replacing jobs, not terrified of it, you know? Like, clearly far too few are benefiting, and benefiting way too much, on the work of the many.
Not everyone be any means, but if you admire narcissistic extroverts then sure, you’re always going to be disappointed.
I think that's usually the type of person who puts themselves out there in the public's eye to be consumed though
As depressive introvert I can say no one ever got dissapointed in me.
Generally, I've moved to just enjoying people's work and trying not to blindly admire any public figure. It's a constant effort since something in our wiring makes us want to follow people we like. But in today's society I think it's best to just assume everyone is flawed up front. That eases the feelings of betrayal later when they screw up
What does this have to do with technology?
The YouTube channel Linus Tech Tips is a very large part of the tech space, reviewing, and making videos about technology. This is actually bigger than that as it speaks to Linus media group, of which Linus tech tips is one of many tech related channels.
Don’t really give a shit about the water block thing, sounds like drama for the sake of drama. The toxic environment and sexual harassment allegations are pretty serious though.
You think selling something that isn't yours, after you told the owner you would return it, is drama for the sake of drama?
The water block is just a product that wasn't handled as per the vendor agreement, a sign of weaknesses in internal processes, but not consequential for anyone not involved directly. Like they've had thousands of products through the org and maintained these positive relationships with large vendors. The idea that one time a miscommunication or agreement wasn't handled properly isn't that spectacular or even unusual.
Employees being treated shitty is a labor issue that has ramifications in how anti-discrimination laws are interpreted and applied. There's potential financial consequences for workers and exploitation.
It's also not out of the question the employee who screwed up the vendor agreement in the water block issue, is one of the people trying to bring these workplace discrimination issues to light. I don't think we know that level of detail but the fact that they would basically be forgiven for that, if it was known they were being treated poorly when that happened, shows how the discrimination issue is more significant.
The waterblock issue is less about the fact that it happened and way more about how linus/lmg responded (not at all until called out about it)
They tend to handle things in a pretty terrible way. It reminds me of how certain computer nerds and sysadmin guys talk like they're the smartest people in the world who know everything. Like they just give no credit to the other point of view, that maaaybe you didn't handle that properly.
People sure love drama. If folks paid as much attention to their own lives and own situation as they do to LTT's troubles the world would be a better place.
That's an optimistic viewpoint while also dismissing the issues at hand.
By creating that comment you are the epitome of drama