Republican Jim Jordan's bid for speaker falling short in US House
reuters.com
With voting underway, at least nine Republicans had cast ballots against his bid, likely leaving him short of the 217 votes he would need to win the job. More rounds of voting are expected if he does not prevail on the first vote.
If he prevails, the Ohio lawmaker who has spent years fighting with leaders of his own party could end up in a position that puts him second in line for the presidency.
Republicans who control the chamber nominated Jordan as a replacement for Kevin McCarthy was ousted as speaker by a small group of his fellow Republicans on Oct. 3.
"He is a patriot, an America First warrior who wins the toughest of fights," Republican Representative Elise Stefanik said as she nominated Jordan for speaker on the House floor.
How does anyone say that with a straight face? What a terrible joke.
But they'll probably get him in the chair after enough rounds of voting. I'd never put my money on the strength of character of house Republicans.
You didn’t know? Only the most patriotic Americans would support the violent overthrow of a democratically elected government.
Clearly.
(That's only true when they succeed, of course.)
America First is a literal Nazi slogan.
It's Elise Stefanik saying that, she's a Trump humping opportunist, she couldn't give AF if Jordan had raped wrestlers at Ohio State himself, she would still use doublespeak to prop Jordan up as something he's absolutely not.
These fucking people don't know what a patriot is and don't care at all about anything that doesn't affect them.
You gotta keep going with the quote:
Fascist Representative Elise Stafanik was specifically praising Jim Jordan's NAZI bona-fides.
He was literally one of the central people in the coup attempt
Jim Jordan is a joke of a man.
The word is now a dog whistle. Patriot means fascist-loving, liberal-hating, bootlicking asshole.
He is a patrioTraitor
Cosplatriot.
Stefanik is a quack qtard
He's an insurrectionist. That's what he is.
He's a tireless advocate for coaches who molest their student athletes.
Seems like a common theme for these far-right nutjobs.
Not if we let the GOP write the history books. Vote as if the future of our nation depends on it, because it absolutely does.
i'm an insurrectionist. jordan doesn't even understand insurrectionism. please stop.
He got 200 votes the first round. Jeffries got 212 (all the democrats). 20 republicans voted for someone else.
Then he lost and the other guy is speaker why is there even going be more voting.
Majority is 217 votes and nobody got that many. Jefferies was closest at 212.
How much to buy 5 republican votes? Can we crowd fund it? It would be hilarious if Jeffries won.
If, and a big if that happened, the rule that one vote to remove a Speaker is still there, and the GOP would waste not even a minute invoking it. Mainly because it would probably be undone soon after a Democrat gets the position.
That doesn’t really represent what happened though.
No one got enough votes. They need 217.
What a piece of shit.
You mean child molester Gym Jordan?
To be fair, he did not do the molesting. He just did absolutely nothing about it when it was brought to his attention a dozen times.
You're beautiful. You're capable. You will do wonderful things in your life, but no one, and I mean absolutely no one, needs you to play devil's advocate for Jim Jordan. Respectfully.
That's not playing devil's advocate, that's just clarifying the truth. When the truth is abhorrent, there's no need to exaggerate it to make it sound worse.
It’s called getting the facts straight. Facts are important, Jimbo.
This is a bad take. Jordan is a vile, loathsome human being, but if we're going to demand fact-based decisions, we need to use facts ourselves. @SeaJ@lemmy.world is correct, and being correct isn't playing devil's advocate.
But that is not the definition of playing devil's advocate. You're technically correct when you play devil's advocate. The point is abscond the truth.
'someone who pretends, in an argument or discussion, to be against an idea or plan that a lot of people support, in order to make people discuss and consider it in more detail:'
When I hear someone say Jim Jordan is a pedo I say "why yes, he is." Coz he's complicit and even worse, never took accountability.
Did Hitler gas all 6 million jews? " Well, to be fair.."
Do you see how obnoxious you guys sound. We all know the truth. And the truth is Jim Jordan is complicit. If the world was objective, Jordan would've faced time for the crimes. EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T HE DO IT!But the world doesn't work that way.
You don't defend that. Ever.
You're not necessarily correct when you play devil's advocate. You're just saying "Let's look at the counter argument to see where that brings us." It's a discussion strategy.
Hitler wasn't just aware of Jews being slaughtered, he directly caused it to happen. Jordan didn't molest anyone or direct anyone to molestation. What he did is grotesque: he knew about the molestation and did nothing about it. He was in a position to stop it and he did not. It's disgusting that he's not only free but he's in Congress. That still doesn't make him a pedophile though, and saying that is in no way defending him.
Oh, you and your rational thinking and all.
Jordan looked at all the embarrassment that McCarthy went through in his vote, and decided "yeah, I want some of that!"
The current Republican Party is the weakest least qualified group of politicians I have seen in my lifetime. They would be better of setting up a clown show.
That's exactly what they've done
Wow what a shock that a man who covered up the rape of kids at his school didn’t get elected to the third most important position in American politics.
Sadly that wouldn't be the worst Republican speaker we've had.
Hastert was a child rapist, not just an enabler.
Was Hastert also a literal NAZI?
Not that I know of. Is Jordan? I thought that was Scalise.
You're kidding, right? He already participated in a fascist coup attempt. The Elise Stefanik quote at the top of this thread is praising how much of a NAZI he is (in case you didn't know, "America First" has been a slogan used by American fascists since WWII).
I can't keep up with all the awful shit every Republican is up to these days. I kind of stopped reading his rap sheet at pedophile enabler
That's fair, although I do think it's worth keeping up with the Republican NAZI count just to gauge how fast we're speedrunning the Weimar Republic.
I assure you, as depressing as it is, that fact is probably irrelevant to this decision.
It may have got him more votes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert#Sex_abuse_scandal_and_federal_prosecution
All the craziness aside, he has never sponsored a bill that passed. He is simply bad at his job.
Good, FTG! Piece of shit only elected because of that sweet gerrymandered district.
That's a generous statement
No mention of who Matt Gaetz voted for. Journalists should be keeping track of what he's doing to solve the problem he created.
One journalist said something about him looking like a dog who was busy sniffing his own farts.
Gaetz was one of Gym's defenders back in 2018 when he was eyballing the house speakership on Paul Ryan's way out.
So it wouldn't surprise me if Gaetz is lining to volunteer for some of the ol' Ohio State locker room routine.
18 against so far, I think 4 more haven't voted yet. Can only afford to lose 4 so I gotta think there are 4 hardened never-Jordans among the 18-22 opposed.
Until they get bribed, like McCarthy bribed those voting against him.
McCarthy only had to bribe MAGAnauts, though, and they only believe in personal profit. Jordan has to bribe members of the establishment, and some of them actually believe in the rule of law.
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