After what happened to all those monkeys I still can't believe he got permission to move to human trials. You'd have to be stupid or insane to volunteer for this.
Musk has perfected the self selection of morons, I'm sure they'll have plenty of test subjects to toy with
I don't know... I feel brains are in short supply around Musk.
He has lots of people obsessed with him who do believe anything he says.
Anyone getting this shit will die just like every single fucking monkey test subject. If they don’t die, their suffering will be unbearable
Go on Elon, show us how it’s done and take the first one
This is some Josef Mengele shit. He better be held accountable after this inevitable shit show.
Wow, thank you for linking that article, I hadn’t read it yet. That’s absolutely horrible, and it doesn’t surprise me that Elon has orchestrated something so cruel in the name of progress.
UC Davis veterinary records cited by the Physicians Committee—which WIRED also obtained through a subsequent California public records request—chronicle a battery of complications that developed following procedures involving electrodes being surgically implanted into monkeys’ brains. The complications include bloody diarrhea, partial paralysis, and cerebral edema, a condition colloquially known as “brain swelling.”
Additional veterinary reports show the condition of a female monkey called “Animal 15” during the months leading up to her death in March 2019. Days after her implant surgery, she began to press her head against the floor for no apparent reason; a symptom of pain or infection, the records say. Staff observed that though she was uncomfortable, picking and pulling at her implant until it bled, she would often lie at the foot of her cage and spend time holding hands with her roommate.
Yeah. I think I'll pass.
That last line man. Wow.
Poor girl was in serious distress.
I think whomever it was at the FDA that approved this shit for human trials needs to be investigated. It reeks of corruption.
This really might be the one that gets him. It’s one thing when self driving doesn’t quite work right or when that tunnel project gets abandoned. If they install these things and people get seriously hurt (I know cars can hurt people) it’s going to be a shit storm.
defintily musk is not gonna be prepared for this one
Rather appropriately, allowing Elon Musk's crew to operate on your brain is proof that you do indeed need brain surgery.
I'm never getting one. If it ever gets to the point where I have to get a brain implant as a condition for a employment, and all the jobs are like that then I guess I'll just be homeless.
My brain runs arch btw
As if it wouldn't be super illegal to hack it and remove the tracking software. AKA Windows 11 BE (Brain Edition).
Imagine the subscription service to your brain, that if you don't pay, you get turret syndrome or something lol...
Actually, it's not funny, but sadly, that'll be a thing for sure...
Mark of the beast aside, alterations to the mind like this are insulting God in Christianity and Islam.
I'm not getting this or any other chips.
The real problem will be when employees simply can't be competitive without it and not having it will relegate them to jobs for severely disabled people.
Are glasses an affront to your god? What about braces? Cochlear implants? How about ventilators? Synthetic insulin? Should I keep going or did you get the point?
Fuck Elon Musk and the inevitable shit show that's going to happen during the human trials, but it's got nothing to do with any god.
No. Just no. The problem isn't anything having to do with religion. I absolutely do not subscribe to the notion that we shouldn't improve technology just because "it makes humans too godlike" or some shit.
Governments and corporations already abuse the fuck out of smartphone "privacy" as it is. No way in hell I'm giving these authoritarian bastards a direct link to my brain.
There are few companies products I want in my body less than from anything that Musk is involved in.
The fact he hasn't had one installed himself shows he has no confidence in his product. Please don't go on twitter and tell him he shouldn't sell products he refuses to use.
So Elon is the first one to get one, right? What do you mean, he doesn't want one?
Yeah bruh fuck everything about this.
What do you mean? You see no potential for anything good coming from this at all?
I certainly see some things to fuck about this (including the asshole payroll ING the project) but not "Everything"
I discount quite heavily any knowledge that may come of this because musk is a goddamn egomaniacal child. I take all of his shit with a heaping dose of skepticism. Put a serious thinker in charge and I’d have a different opinion.
Yeah he will fuck it up and use it for evil, but the science is sound and this should help the race for commercialization and improved safety for reanimation implants only available at super selective research levels currently. Don't be a luddite about any potential for good. Most things are shades of grey guy.
I see a select few medical devices benefiting from this, which they would have eventually gotten to anyways without musk and his extremely poor research methods.
I’m never getting anything like this. Doubly so if it’s developed by big tech. The possible benefits don’t even get close to outweighing the negatives
Curious, do you mind sharing how many extremities you have that are paralyzed? I would weigh your input accordingly
I guarantee musk isn’t going to be healing paraplegics with this. That research is being done by medical professionals who haven’t killed all their test subjects.
This is being done to make as much money as possible at the expense of as many lives need to be sacrificed to get there.
Uhhh after you Elon
He already had it implanted. That's why he is so fucked up.
I can't wait to get X advertising streamed directly into my dreams.
But I use Wayland.
NICE
but still: etc/gdm3/custom.conf WaylandEnable=false
Har har har! Whew. That one's a lil rough :P
I'm sure there's tons of Muskrat fans who'd love one but unfortunately they don't have brains.
Let’s test it on the Elongate Muskrat first
Musk should be the first.
Can't wait for them to start beaming ads directly into our brains
I already get Lighspeed briefs ads in my dreams.
Yeah that happens in the 2009 movie Hardwired. That's not a future I want to be part of tbh.
Just wait until TwittX is a mandatory app on the link, lol.
Let him be the first patient.
Is it, though?
My pop-corn is ready, any time now ^^
The US FDA is a captured organization. This operation won't even pass a research level ethics commitee.
I know there was a lot of ableist bigotry involved and it was problematic for even more reasons but...
Them mofos are paying for darwin awards.
Uhhhhhhhhhh
Already got one installed? Zombie plague? Janeway drank all' your coffee this morning? Hmmmm 🤔
There’s so much we don’t know about the brain, I can’t see implants being anywhere close to a success until the brain is significantly better understood
To be fair there are brain implants in use already but at a really simple stage (epileptic treatments, at least they did exist in like the eighties).
I can’t believe we’re doing Brain Chips and not Robot Arms or Gundam smh what a dumb nerd
Remember the billboards in space guy? How did that guy get shitcanned and this guy is here with this fucking thing?
I hope this is the beginning of The Fall of the House of Usher Musk.
This is some of the coolest tech thats currently within our grasp. It will not only completely cure a lot of ailments but lead to fdvr.
Id burn alive a million monkeys if it lets some 5 year suddenly walk. Id burn double that if I can get some isekai catgirl harem going on.
We literally torture animals just to make sure makeup is safe, get mad about that. This is some serious sci fi shit that will open an insane amount of door, regardless of who is behind it. Pick you battles.
People that mindlessly hate on something just because Musk is involved are as brain dead as the ones that constantly praise him without thought.
You’re welcome to volunteer to be the first patient, I mean experiment
And those practices of testing on animals are inhumane and are being phased out.
Edit: Oh, and we all hate it not (just) because it’s musk, but also because it’s had next to no success in animal trials and offers no benefits other than data tracking inside our heads
How else are we going to test brain to computer interfaces? All animal testing is inhuman but some of it is necessary to advance. Like I said, go complain about animal testing for vanity products instead of society altering tech. But you won't, because you don't give a fuck about the animals, you only care about the musk circle jerk.
We test them when they’re actually ready to be tested. These are clearly not even ready for animal based testing, let alone human testing.
These devices are so far from ready they shouldn’t even be near a living animal
Do you have insider knowledge on these technologies? How do you know it wasn't ready? Do you think they would be at human trials if it wasn't ready a year ago for animal testing.
My point anyways is that we shouldn't be doing any testing for things like mascara, but brain computer interfaces are a valid reason.
Regardless, we do worse for things that are a lot less warranted than this. Your phone has inhumane treatment of actual humans written all over it. Your whole 1st world luxury life screams of sin but you waste your time getting mad on things that could bring about great benefit just because of a name associated with it.
Keep screaming about it, chimp.
Nearly every test subject died. That’s pretty clearly not ready. Don’t need insider information to know that killing the majority of your test subjects means your product isn’t ready for the next stage of testing, rather it’s ready to go back to the drawing board and start over with something that won’t kill all its subjects.
Now you’re just being racist.
Lmao, how am I being racist?
Calling people “chimps” is a very common slur used against black people
Okay, you are actually an idiot. You don't think, that in this context, I might be just calling you a dumb monkey? I don't know what color skin you have and I'm definitely not trying to insult it. Jesus fuck, the main subject is literally monkeys.
Doesn’t really matter. It’s still racist language used in an insult.
It's first and foremost a noun to designate an animal. When I say you have as much intelligence as a monkey with brain trauma, I don't mean a black person with brain trauma. When they are saying they are testing on chimps, the article actually does not refer to black people.
Im pretty sure you are the racist one if you automatically associate the word in such a context with black people. It hadn't even crossed my mind. Most people don't think "black people" whenever they hear the word chimp.
Or I’m just american and have been called a variety of slurs through my life. Language has meaning, and even in other contexts it’s not necessary to use racist language. Describing someone as racist language is not the same as making a comparison.
Anyways, arguing with someone with the average intelligence of the test subjects is a waste of my time. If you love Elon so much I expect you’ll be first in line to test these out. Otherwise you’re just another dick riding idiot who’s fine with everyone else suffering so you can feel superior.
I hope you're an early adopter, given the level of resolve you have towards this.
Hell no, but I won't shame the ones that are either brave or desperate enough
We should not be relying on desperate people to volunteer for life ending medical experiments because capitalism has failed them. This is a shit tier take
After what happened to all those monkeys I still can't believe he got permission to move to human trials. You'd have to be stupid or insane to volunteer for this.
Musk has perfected the self selection of morons, I'm sure they'll have plenty of test subjects to toy with
I don't know... I feel brains are in short supply around Musk.
He has lots of people obsessed with him who do believe anything he says.
Anyone getting this shit will die just like every single fucking monkey test subject. If they don’t die, their suffering will be unbearable
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/
Go on Elon, show us how it’s done and take the first one
This is some Josef Mengele shit. He better be held accountable after this inevitable shit show.
Wow, thank you for linking that article, I hadn’t read it yet. That’s absolutely horrible, and it doesn’t surprise me that Elon has orchestrated something so cruel in the name of progress.
In the name of money*
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/
Yeah. I think I'll pass.
That last line man. Wow.
Poor girl was in serious distress.
I think whomever it was at the FDA that approved this shit for human trials needs to be investigated. It reeks of corruption.
This really might be the one that gets him. It’s one thing when self driving doesn’t quite work right or when that tunnel project gets abandoned. If they install these things and people get seriously hurt (I know cars can hurt people) it’s going to be a shit storm.
defintily musk is not gonna be prepared for this one
Virgin Bill Gates: "The covid vaccine doesn't contain any microchips....I-I promise!"
Chad Elon Musk: "I will literally microchip your brain"
He doesn't care. His followers will defend him and tell you that he is god send and he is the smartest guy of mankind.
I feel like this isn’t a fanboy situation. If he actually goes through will this and people get fucked up the hammer will fall hard and fast.
Rather appropriately, allowing Elon Musk's crew to operate on your brain is proof that you do indeed need brain surgery.
I'm never getting one. If it ever gets to the point where I have to get a brain implant as a condition for a employment, and all the jobs are like that then I guess I'll just be homeless.
My brain runs arch btw
As if it wouldn't be super illegal to hack it and remove the tracking software. AKA Windows 11 BE (Brain Edition).
Imagine the subscription service to your brain, that if you don't pay, you get turret syndrome or something lol... Actually, it's not funny, but sadly, that'll be a thing for sure...
Mark of the beast aside, alterations to the mind like this are insulting God in Christianity and Islam.
I'm not getting this or any other chips.
The real problem will be when employees simply can't be competitive without it and not having it will relegate them to jobs for severely disabled people.
Are glasses an affront to your god? What about braces? Cochlear implants? How about ventilators? Synthetic insulin? Should I keep going or did you get the point?
Fuck Elon Musk and the inevitable shit show that's going to happen during the human trials, but it's got nothing to do with any god.
No. Just no. The problem isn't anything having to do with religion. I absolutely do not subscribe to the notion that we shouldn't improve technology just because "it makes humans too godlike" or some shit.
Governments and corporations already abuse the fuck out of smartphone "privacy" as it is. No way in hell I'm giving these authoritarian bastards a direct link to my brain.
There are few companies products I want in my body less than from anything that Musk is involved in.
The fact he hasn't had one installed himself shows he has no confidence in his product. Please don't go on twitter and tell him he shouldn't sell products he refuses to use.
So Elon is the first one to get one, right? What do you mean, he doesn't want one?
Yeah bruh fuck everything about this.
What do you mean? You see no potential for anything good coming from this at all? I certainly see some things to fuck about this (including the asshole payroll ING the project) but not "Everything"
I discount quite heavily any knowledge that may come of this because musk is a goddamn egomaniacal child. I take all of his shit with a heaping dose of skepticism. Put a serious thinker in charge and I’d have a different opinion.
Yeah he will fuck it up and use it for evil, but the science is sound and this should help the race for commercialization and improved safety for reanimation implants only available at super selective research levels currently. Don't be a luddite about any potential for good. Most things are shades of grey guy.
I see a select few medical devices benefiting from this, which they would have eventually gotten to anyways without musk and his extremely poor research methods.
I’m never getting anything like this. Doubly so if it’s developed by big tech. The possible benefits don’t even get close to outweighing the negatives
Curious, do you mind sharing how many extremities you have that are paralyzed? I would weigh your input accordingly
I guarantee musk isn’t going to be healing paraplegics with this. That research is being done by medical professionals who haven’t killed all their test subjects.
This is being done to make as much money as possible at the expense of as many lives need to be sacrificed to get there.
Uhhh after you Elon
He already had it implanted. That's why he is so fucked up.
I can't wait to get X advertising streamed directly into my dreams.
But I use Wayland.
NICE
but still: etc/gdm3/custom.conf WaylandEnable=false
Har har har! Whew. That one's a lil rough :P
I'm sure there's tons of Muskrat fans who'd love one but unfortunately they don't have brains.
Let’s test it on the Elongate Muskrat first
Musk should be the first.
Can't wait for them to start beaming ads directly into our brains
I already get Lighspeed briefs ads in my dreams.
Yeah that happens in the 2009 movie Hardwired. That's not a future I want to be part of tbh.
No paywall: https://archive.is/yN8gL
That is a fascinating read, I had no idea how far multiple companies have already gotten on neural impulse translations and practical implementation.
Thanks, this Com is just awful about paywalls
use 12ft ladder to remove paywall
Sounds like a great idea, and I’m sure it will work just as well as Tesla FSD. Cost a lot of money and get people killed.
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/
Just wait until TwittX is a mandatory app on the link, lol.
Let him be the first patient.
Is it, though?
My pop-corn is ready, any time now ^^
The US FDA is a captured organization. This operation won't even pass a research level ethics commitee.
I know there was a lot of ableist bigotry involved and it was problematic for even more reasons but...
Them mofos are paying for darwin awards.
Uhhhhhhhhhh
Already got one installed? Zombie plague? Janeway drank all' your coffee this morning? Hmmmm 🤔
There’s so much we don’t know about the brain, I can’t see implants being anywhere close to a success until the brain is significantly better understood
To be fair there are brain implants in use already but at a really simple stage (epileptic treatments, at least they did exist in like the eighties).
I can’t believe we’re doing Brain Chips and not Robot Arms or Gundam smh what a dumb nerd
Remember the billboards in space guy? How did that guy get shitcanned and this guy is here with this fucking thing?
I hope this is the beginning of The Fall of the House of
UsherMusk.This is some of the coolest tech thats currently within our grasp. It will not only completely cure a lot of ailments but lead to fdvr.
Id burn alive a million monkeys if it lets some 5 year suddenly walk. Id burn double that if I can get some isekai catgirl harem going on.
We literally torture animals just to make sure makeup is safe, get mad about that. This is some serious sci fi shit that will open an insane amount of door, regardless of who is behind it. Pick you battles.
People that mindlessly hate on something just because Musk is involved are as brain dead as the ones that constantly praise him without thought.
You’re welcome to volunteer to be the first patient, I mean experiment
And those practices of testing on animals are inhumane and are being phased out.
Edit: Oh, and we all hate it not (just) because it’s musk, but also because it’s had next to no success in animal trials and offers no benefits other than data tracking inside our heads
How else are we going to test brain to computer interfaces? All animal testing is inhuman but some of it is necessary to advance. Like I said, go complain about animal testing for vanity products instead of society altering tech. But you won't, because you don't give a fuck about the animals, you only care about the musk circle jerk.
We test them when they’re actually ready to be tested. These are clearly not even ready for animal based testing, let alone human testing.
These devices are so far from ready they shouldn’t even be near a living animal
Do you have insider knowledge on these technologies? How do you know it wasn't ready? Do you think they would be at human trials if it wasn't ready a year ago for animal testing.
My point anyways is that we shouldn't be doing any testing for things like mascara, but brain computer interfaces are a valid reason.
Regardless, we do worse for things that are a lot less warranted than this. Your phone has inhumane treatment of actual humans written all over it. Your whole 1st world luxury life screams of sin but you waste your time getting mad on things that could bring about great benefit just because of a name associated with it.
Keep screaming about it, chimp.
Nearly every test subject died. That’s pretty clearly not ready. Don’t need insider information to know that killing the majority of your test subjects means your product isn’t ready for the next stage of testing, rather it’s ready to go back to the drawing board and start over with something that won’t kill all its subjects.
Now you’re just being racist.
Lmao, how am I being racist?
Calling people “chimps” is a very common slur used against black people
Okay, you are actually an idiot. You don't think, that in this context, I might be just calling you a dumb monkey? I don't know what color skin you have and I'm definitely not trying to insult it. Jesus fuck, the main subject is literally monkeys.
Doesn’t really matter. It’s still racist language used in an insult.
It's first and foremost a noun to designate an animal. When I say you have as much intelligence as a monkey with brain trauma, I don't mean a black person with brain trauma. When they are saying they are testing on chimps, the article actually does not refer to black people.
Im pretty sure you are the racist one if you automatically associate the word in such a context with black people. It hadn't even crossed my mind. Most people don't think "black people" whenever they hear the word chimp.
Or I’m just american and have been called a variety of slurs through my life. Language has meaning, and even in other contexts it’s not necessary to use racist language. Describing someone as racist language is not the same as making a comparison.
Anyways, arguing with someone with the average intelligence of the test subjects is a waste of my time. If you love Elon so much I expect you’ll be first in line to test these out. Otherwise you’re just another dick riding idiot who’s fine with everyone else suffering so you can feel superior.
I hope you're an early adopter, given the level of resolve you have towards this.
Hell no, but I won't shame the ones that are either brave or desperate enough
We should not be relying on desperate people to volunteer for life ending medical experiments because capitalism has failed them. This is a shit tier take