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Gonna nerd out here for a second.

Magneto actually did pull Wolverine's adamantium skeleton out once. And it was a massive heel turn after Magneto had been a "good guy" and worked with the X-Men for years.

Holy Christ, can we get some spoilers on what happens after? He couldn't possibly have survived that... right?

He didn't even die there, if you can believe it. Though he is catatonic and carried home by Jean Grey. This is one of the few comic books I actually had.

Immediately after this, Xavier gets pissed and completely mind-wipes Erik, something he promised he'd never do. This causes a part of his psyche to splinter off, eventually kidnap Franklin Richards, and merge with him to become Onslaught.

Then an amnesiac, de-aged Magneto shows up to help the X-Men fight Onslaught.

Comics are wild, man.

The adimantium was actually poisoning him, and his healing factor was fighting it the whole time. So when he lost the metal he became ultra powerful and developed bone claws

Same exact thing happened to me except instead of adamantium it was my virginity and instead of becoming super-powerful I became a dad.

He survived having molten adamantium injected onto his bones. I'd guess that this wouldn't be as bad as that was.

I think I read a comic where he is basically burnt alive in some kind of explosion and he goes through the regeneration process mentioning, I think, nerves are the worst to regenerate because it's really painful

Yeah, any of the questions of "who would win" when Logan is involved are hard to answer because he's pretty much impossible to kill.

Though there are some that could throw him into the sun. Maybe it would kill him, maybe it would trap him, maybe it would just give him new powers.

Isn't Logan actually susceptible to dying by beheading? AFAIK, only with Deadpool's mutated cancer can his healing factor grow a whole new body.

It probably depends on the writer who is currently writing him, but chat gpt thinks he would eventually recover from decapitation or attacks that destroy his brain. I can't remember where I got this from, but my understanding is that as long as some of his cells survive, he will regenerate. Which could rule out the surviving the sun depending on whether he'd burn up faster than he can regenerate (and assuming no new powers affect this).

It changes based on the comic book, from what Ive read. Theres comics where hes survived being beheaded and his body kept elsewhere.

Isn't it really painful every time his claws emerge through his skin? I seem to remember that being established at some point.

Fortunately for him, his adamantium skeleton is unrelated to his healing factor.

Logan burned out his healing factor to survive that (he was fine in the end, though), Xavier retaliated by wiping Magneto's mind but in doing so he created Onslaught, a sentient psionic entity created from the darker parts of their consciousness (Xavier and Magneto's)

I've read comics where wolverine has been dismembered in half and still lives through it.

Split him in half and watch him reform two logans like mitosis

There's no way this idea hasn't been explored in some side comic, right?

It has with Deadpool. Basically a zombie version of him made from sewn together discarded parts.

No there is a thing called wolverine law (i think) which states in that scenario only one half of him grows

As others mentioned, he definitely survived. But to add onto that, Deadpool got his healing factor from wolverine, and Deadpool's whole shtick is that he's virtually unkillable.

In order to kill either one of them, you have to kill every single one of their cells. For Deadpool at a certain point, even that won't work, because that happened. He died, then fell in love with the personification of death. That pissed off someone real powerful who then cursed Deadpool with immortality so he can never see his beloved again.

Deadpool's healing factor was failing at one point and he got it jump-started with some of the Hulk's blood so it became even stronger than before.

In order to kill either one of them, you have to kill every single one of their cells

Is Tomie inspired by Wolverine?

Lobo is.

In a world where we got decent DC movies, I could see Jason Momoa as Lobo.

In a fair world we would have gotten a Lobo movie starring Lemmy Kilmister in the ‘90s or Rob Zombie in the ‘00s

I feel like Wolverine’s adamantium probably shouldn’t be ferrous, and if that’s the case he wouldn’t be magnetic, right?

Non-ferrous metals are still subjected to forces in the presence of changing magnetic fields through a combination of Lenz's Law and the Lorentz Force.

It's why when you drop a magnet through a copper pipe it falls slower than it would in open air.

His powers in the comics were explained that he controls magnetic fields or something.

I can’t remember the exact details, but for a while he and Rogue were able to have a physical relationship by projecting a thin magnetic field around himself, so he can pretty much do whatever. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I also can’t remember if that was 616 or an alternate universe.

Controlling magnetic fields he couldn't physically move non ferrous metals, but he could sure cause a lot of energy to be dumped in due to induction. Essentially cooking wolverine, and then melting his adamantium into a pile instead of being bone/blade shaped

Edit: yep spoke before I thought... and learned something new about frogs lol. Non ferrous are just not attracted to magnetic fields.

Yeah I dunno, I explained the extent of what I understand. I don’t really get it either, but that doesn’t really matter. He can manipulate any metal.

Although I do like your other ideas for uses of his power!

Yeah, I assumed that the master of magnetism would know a few tricks when it comes to laying pipe.

Magnetism technically has nothing to do with metals in general, only unpaired electrons. For example, Oxygen can be magnetic in the form O2 and this can be demonstrated while it is in liquid form.

Wait so air is stronger near a magnet ?

What do you mean, "stronger"? Air doesn't get steroids from magnets. It doesn't even lift, bro.

I thought it was obvious I meant has more oxygen. You know.. the thing in air that matters to us humans.

Magneto controls all metals from what I understand, even stuff like gold.

Magnetic fields, which is part of electromagnetism. He can directly influence one of the fundamental forces of the universe. Magneto is definitely one of the strongest mutants.

If he'd learn to do things besides bend and move metal, he'd be able to do almost anything depending on how acutely strong of a field he could make. With how field lines snap in the sun and make for huge discharges of charged particles, I think Magneto would be able to do a lot even without making hugely powerful fields if he'd learn some science.

In some stories he does pretty bonkers shit. I know for a fact he makes a meteor fall on Earth in one story, and if I'm not mistaken, learns to become invisible in another.

He can also hypnotise people with his magnetic personality.

This, but unironically - he can change electrical brain patterns.

If he got one of those demagnetizing things and rubbed it all over his body .... then he'd be able to fight Magneto.

minor correction! Wolverine's bones are grafted with metal.

Meh. In one comic he mutates in a way that makes the adamantium a part of his DNA so it becomes a part of him and will regenerate.

Imagine adamantium cancer.

Magneto just been administering chemo to wolverine this whole time.

That's basically the plot of the movie Logan and it's been used in a few comic series like The Death of Wolverine

...because comics.

I mean we're talking about a world where people can manipulate atoms through telekinesis or magnetism.

So, yeah.

over in DC comics, Supergirl dated a talking horse once.

one of the green lanterns is a sentient smallpox virus and another green lantern is a sentient planet.

Just gotta make sure to drink enough adamantium milk for those bones.

Yup. In an old What If they have Wolverine's skeleton turned into an indestructible killer robot.

He should replace that adamantium with a non-magnetic metal. Also... If you removed his skeleton, would he just grow a new one? Or would the removed skeleton grow a new everything else? 🤔

In the comics, Magneto rips out his skeleton at one point. After which Xavier telepathically lobotomizes Magneto. And yes, although Logan nearly dies, he grows a new skeleton including bone claws. His healing factor also goes into overdrive since it doesn't have to fight against the toxic adamantium all the time. It makes him grow more feral too, until writers decided it got too stupid with Logan talking and acting like a caveman so he got the adamantium back.

I think he grows around his skeleton.

I'm pretty sure that wolverine is technically not immortal (depending on canon) however the Adamantine casing which is pretty indestructible means there's always a piece of him to regenerate from.

They do use that against Magneto to defeat him in X3