His star has really crashed and burned, hasn't it? He tried to put his kids in movies and they can't act and are also very weird, so no one went to see them. His wife cheated on him and laughed about it. On national TV. He slapped Chris Rock at the Oscars because he told a mean, but not horribly offensive joke. No wonder no one wants to give to their charity.
He slapped him because of HER reaction. Go look at the video. He's laughing just as much as the rest of the audience before the camera cuts away. She 100% got on his ass about it so then he went and did that shit.
Yup, he liked the joke until he turned to her and saw the death glare. Jada has always been horrible, and this is just another example of it. It doesn’t excuse his behavior, but it does point to why he did it.
The true moral of the story is to not believe Hollywood PR. Will Smith has been a media darling for decades. The guy could do no wrong.
Now it turns out he's just another deeply flawed rich person.
An important lesson for people who idolize celebrities and engage in parasocial relationships with them. Whether it's Kim Kardashian or Keanu Reeves, you have no idea of what they're really like, stop fooling yourself that you do.
You take what you said about Keanu back rn
Keanu's been nothing but a real G since the 80's.
Will Smith has been a cocky dick the entire time — he just had charisma so people let it slide.
You shouldn't idolize any celebrity, period. Get some real heroes for fucks sake. Your local nursing home staff are more heroic than any celebrity. One gets fame and fortune. The other gets poverty and depression. Which takes more heroism to persevere through?
What if my local nursing home staff yells at fast food workers because they accidentally put pickles on her hamburger after sitting in the hotass kitchen for 9 hours straight doing the same thing over and over as fast they can because the store is understaffed and their replacement is late?
Anyone can be a dick, just remember everyone is human and has weird emotions just like you.
Well, I'm assuming poverty and depression would play a large role in someone lashing out at the wrong person (the fast food worker) while the little rich bitches get a life catered to them. They may both be human, but one group does not even remotely live in the same reality the poor and depressed experience (the nurse AND fast food worker) so really they can fuck off and wipe their little crocodile tears with their hundo bills.
To be fair, it sounds like it might have been a consensual open marriage.
Speaking of his children, does anybody remember Jaden Smith on Twitter posting super cringe shit? That was probably like a decade ago now
Judging by Jada's book and Will's reactions on interviews, someone definitely forgot to tell him about the open marriage arrangement. Dude found out about it on live TV.
I think he knew it was open he just didn’t want it to be. He is that whipped for whatever reason so he stays with her.
Imagine how insecure a person must feel to tolerate that and act in the ways he does.
To be fair, it sounds like it might have been a consensual open marriage.
Retroactively maybe.
To be fair, it sounds like it might have been a consensual open marriage.
It was only consensual in the sense that if he didn't agree to it Jada would have run away with the children and hidden them in the Church of Scientology so he couldn't ever see them again.
To be fair, it sounds like it might have been a consensual open marriage.
Retroactively. The dude found out the details on live TV. And he likely only gave “permission” because he knows Jada would run away and steal his kids if he protested. She could bury the kids in the church of Scientology if she wanted, and he’d never see any of them again. So at best, it was consent-by-coercion, which isn’t consent at all.
Jayden was good in Pursuit of Happyness, idk about any other good role beyond that.
Gotham was not bad
Gotham was great, but Jaden wasn't in it.
I read it as Jada, oops
Was he in the show or are you talking about a movie?
His star has really crashed and burned, hasn't it?
He’s still acting. The trailer for Bad Boys 4 came out just a couple days ago.
Yeah but a lot of people on lemmy are bad mouthing him, so he's truly fallen on hard times.
Say what you want about the other kids, but I personally think Justice Smith has done some good work. He was great in The Get Down, All the Bright Places, and Dungeons and Dragons.
He seems like the only one in the entire family that doesn't have his head shoulders deep in his own ass.
I can't tell if this is a joke or not, I just googled it to confirm and Justice Smith is definitely not related to Will Smith.
Well, that's probably because Justice Smith isn't related to Will Smith.
Lol, wow. Yeah TIL. This whole time I thought he was the kid from Will Smith's first marriage.
Justice Smith really is the shining star of the Pinkett-Smith family, isn't he? Not really a fan of his acting, he kinda just seems like he's taken one too many Xanax (don't get me started about that fucking video game), but none of it compares to how odd his siblings are. I'm glad he turned out OK.
He got in one little fight and the donors got scared
And said, "Wifey's cuckin' with her lover and her ass in the air"
I can hear this gif...
AHHH!
Assaulting people does tend to make one less endearing.
Please donate to our... SMACK... charity. Oh, and keep my wife's motherfucking name, out yo motherfucking... Please donate... MOUTH.
Maybe they could donate their own money.
Which is weird because I thought that’s how rich people used foundations named after themselves? I thought it was mostly self-funded and a way to lower their tax burden
You lower your tax burden by as much as the taxes you would have otherwise paid on the money you gave to charity.
If you give 100$ that would have been taxed at 30%, you get a 30$ tax deduction, you're still down 70$.
Yeah, but if you control said foundation, you can then have it spent on things that you care about. It isn't the get out of tax free card that some people make it out to be, but it can probably be beneficial in some situations.
Is what I, someone who hasn't got the slightest clue about U.S. law, thinks.
Sure, but in theory the charity can be audited and it shouldn't be buying you stuff you would have spent that money on otherwise... Like, you can't give money to a charity and have it buy you a yacht.
I mean, sure. I was more thinking about "I care about deforestation/child poverty/outlawing abortion/etc, so I'm gonna make sure my money goes there, and I won't even have to pay taxes on (that part of) it", with maybe a bit of "I own (many shares of) a company that does X, so why not suggest that the foundation prefers them as a supplier".
Like, that doesn't allow you to buy yachts with it, but if you're working with that kind of money, you probably have a yacht, or don't want one/another, and exerting influence is the most interesting thing you can use it for. The particular objective doesn't have to be harmful, but I feel that it gives very few people another way to excert outsized control on our world, and take revenue away from the state, which might also waste it, but over which the people should, theoretically, be able to excert more influence than on a very wealthy individual.
But that's a tax advantage anyone can have access to by giving money to the charity of their choice.
The tax advantage, yes, the control, no. I like giving to doctors without borders, but I can't control their objectives, nor their leadership.
In the end, my problem is with giving power to individuals who can't be held accountable. The tax part was mostly an excuse to rant about that.
I can’t hire my friends to run my charity and pick their salary
But then your friend would pay taxes on that income so your money ends up being taxed.
Not really how percentages work my dude, still less going to the govt
It's still exactly the same as contributing to any other charity that has paid employees and everyone has access to the tax deduction that comes with doing this kind of contribution.
If I donate to a charity, I can’t hire my friend and pay them a 6 figure salary. No idea how it’s even similar.
You can pay yourself as admin of said charity. Give me $100, I pay $20 tax or stick it in charity to reduce my tax burden. I have $80. I get 100 other people to give my charity $100 each, it has $10k, I take 50% for admin costs, the rest is disbursed. I still make more money than lost to any tax. That’s how a rich person makes money by running a charity. Make even more family money by putting your kids on the BoD.
And then you pay taxes on that salary.
Of course. Still making $, though.
You're not making more than if you had just kept that money in the first place.
Apparently your math is different than mine. I suggest you re-read what I wrote. How is collecting money as a charity admin not making more?
You take your regular job's wage, send 100$ to your own charity so you collect 30$ back in tax deduction.
The charity gets 100$, you're out 70$.
The charity then pays you 100$ in salary.
You're up 30$ but you have to pay 30$ in taxes on that 100$, in the end you're back to square one.
Taxes are paid on your total income no matter the source.
You skipped the entire part where I run the charity.
Technically you can as long as the yacht is used exclusively for the charity. This was the case when the rightwing tried to say a BLM charity foundation misused funds to buy a mansion, but it turns out the mansion stayed in the hands of the charity even after those administrators left the foundation. AFAIK the mansion was only ever used for meetings, fundraisers, and celebrations.
Foundations aren't deductible though. You have to give it away to an honest-to-God charity approved by the IRS for it to do anything. And even then, you can never get more money by donating it than you would just keeping the money.
Foundations are typically 501c3s
My bad, that's true. I guess it's that private foundations are more limited in how much you can deduct. To qualify as a public charity, a foundation needs to get at least a third of its funding from the public and have other board members, so they can't just be self-funded and self-directed. A private foundation still has to be for a qualified charitable purpose but only lets you deduct half as much of contributions.
They put their money into other people's charities so it doesn't look so obvious. Scratching each other's backs.
doesn’t look so obvious
So what doesn't look so obvious? You know that donations can be claimed on your taxes too, right?
They don't get the same kind of social debts between each other when they donate to their own charities. You know, the back scratching thing that I mentioned.
There is a lot more to it than just the charitable donation deduction. They are all getting a tax deduction for exchanging money with other wealthy people through their charities and the charities spend money on each other's businesses.
If Will left Jada, and went full scorched earth on her and the scientologists (e.g. Leah Remini), We'd all love him again.
I wouldn't. He's always been a cocky prick. You could see it come out in interviews sometimes.
He basically physically threatened Colbert while being interviewed on his show for his role in Ali. Will Smith is charming, so he's gotten away with a lot. The mask is off now though.
Edit: the Colbert interview was for Hancock, not Ali.
So when he made a comment about how Stephen must have been beaten up at some point? I mean. That's reaching. it was awkward, but imo really doesn't rise to "basically physically threatened." Especially since Colbert has had him on his shows repeatedly afterwards, you'd think that if Stephen didn't feel safe around him, probly wouldn't have him back on.
On another note, god I miss the Colbert Report. That was peak satire.
That's how veiled threats work. There was nothing wrong with Colbert's face. Smith brought up someone kicking his ass out of nowhere. Colbert understood and even said something like "I hope nobody kicks my ass this interview". Smith later states how he's handsome and strong. Etc.
Do you not understand how banter works? Have you never had a conversation with friends before? I mean the guy is a douche but you don't need to just make wild shit up, there's plenty of ACTUAL things he's done to not like him before you start lying
Perhaps you just didn't pick up on the threat, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It was obvious enough for me to notice it and remember it 16 years later.
You think I just kept that interview in my pocket that long waiting for the right opportunity to... lie about Will Smith? And that seems to make you angry?
This is Jaden isn't it? I just found Jaden Smith on Lemmy.
You're an idiot.
Feel better?
How can eyes be real if our eyes see no real eyes
I mean, he also broke into his Muhammad Ali act around the same time, so it could have come from there, but I guess I see your point? I'm just not prepared to judge the guy based upon that.
I watched the whole thing, no where in that does he threaten anyone. He's a pompous douche promoting his movie but he doesn't remotely threaten anyone
I looked it up and today is the 2 year anniversary of The Slap. Doesn't seem like it's been that long.
That's because every day is torture in this late stage capitalist hellscape
We all know the saying, time flies when you're being tortured.
I WANT TO GET OFF MR BONES WILD RIDE
The Slappening
Did he go to this year's oscars?
No, he voluntarily returned his membership to the academy and they banned him from attending for 10 years.
Shitty movie bitch and maniacal evil groomer villain, aka Scientology Abridged still exist?
His star has really crashed and burned, hasn't it? He tried to put his kids in movies and they can't act and are also very weird, so no one went to see them. His wife cheated on him and laughed about it. On national TV. He slapped Chris Rock at the Oscars because he told a mean, but not horribly offensive joke. No wonder no one wants to give to their charity.
He slapped him because of HER reaction. Go look at the video. He's laughing just as much as the rest of the audience before the camera cuts away. She 100% got on his ass about it so then he went and did that shit.
Yup, he liked the joke until he turned to her and saw the death glare. Jada has always been horrible, and this is just another example of it. It doesn’t excuse his behavior, but it does point to why he did it.
The true moral of the story is to not believe Hollywood PR. Will Smith has been a media darling for decades. The guy could do no wrong.
Now it turns out he's just another deeply flawed rich person.
An important lesson for people who idolize celebrities and engage in parasocial relationships with them. Whether it's Kim Kardashian or Keanu Reeves, you have no idea of what they're really like, stop fooling yourself that you do.
You take what you said about Keanu back rn
Keanu's been nothing but a real G since the 80's.
Will Smith has been a cocky dick the entire time — he just had charisma so people let it slide.
You shouldn't idolize any celebrity, period. Get some real heroes for fucks sake. Your local nursing home staff are more heroic than any celebrity. One gets fame and fortune. The other gets poverty and depression. Which takes more heroism to persevere through?
What if my local nursing home staff yells at fast food workers because they accidentally put pickles on her hamburger after sitting in the hotass kitchen for 9 hours straight doing the same thing over and over as fast they can because the store is understaffed and their replacement is late? Anyone can be a dick, just remember everyone is human and has weird emotions just like you.
Well, I'm assuming poverty and depression would play a large role in someone lashing out at the wrong person (the fast food worker) while the little rich bitches get a life catered to them. They may both be human, but one group does not even remotely live in the same reality the poor and depressed experience (the nurse AND fast food worker) so really they can fuck off and wipe their little crocodile tears with their hundo bills.
To be fair, it sounds like it might have been a consensual open marriage.
Speaking of his children, does anybody remember Jaden Smith on Twitter posting super cringe shit? That was probably like a decade ago now
Judging by Jada's book and Will's reactions on interviews, someone definitely forgot to tell him about the open marriage arrangement. Dude found out about it on live TV.
I think he knew it was open he just didn’t want it to be. He is that whipped for whatever reason so he stays with her.
Imagine how insecure a person must feel to tolerate that and act in the ways he does.
Retroactively maybe.
It was only consensual in the sense that if he didn't agree to it Jada would have run away with the children and hidden them in the Church of Scientology so he couldn't ever see them again.
Retroactively. The dude found out the details on live TV. And he likely only gave “permission” because he knows Jada would run away and steal his kids if he protested. She could bury the kids in the church of Scientology if she wanted, and he’d never see any of them again. So at best, it was consent-by-coercion, which isn’t consent at all.
Jayden was good in Pursuit of Happyness, idk about any other good role beyond that.
Gotham was not bad
Gotham was great, but Jaden wasn't in it.
I read it as Jada, oops
Was he in the show or are you talking about a movie?
He’s still acting. The trailer for Bad Boys 4 came out just a couple days ago.
Yeah but a lot of people on lemmy are bad mouthing him, so he's truly fallen on hard times.
Say what you want about the other kids, but I personally think Justice Smith has done some good work. He was great in The Get Down, All the Bright Places, and Dungeons and Dragons.
He seems like the only one in the entire family that doesn't have his head shoulders deep in his own ass.
I can't tell if this is a joke or not, I just googled it to confirm and Justice Smith is definitely not related to Will Smith.
Well, that's probably because Justice Smith isn't related to Will Smith.
Lol, wow. Yeah TIL. This whole time I thought he was the kid from Will Smith's first marriage.
Justice Smith really is the shining star of the Pinkett-Smith family, isn't he? Not really a fan of his acting, he kinda just seems like he's taken one too many Xanax (don't get me started about that fucking video game), but none of it compares to how odd his siblings are. I'm glad he turned out OK.
Edit: Poe's Laaaaaaaaaaaaw
He got in one little fight and the donors got scared
And said, "Wifey's cuckin' with her lover and her ass in the air"
I can hear this gif...
AHHH!
Assaulting people does tend to make one less endearing.
Please donate to our... SMACK... charity. Oh, and keep my wife's motherfucking name, out yo motherfucking... Please donate... MOUTH.
Maybe they could donate their own money.
Which is weird because I thought that’s how rich people used foundations named after themselves? I thought it was mostly self-funded and a way to lower their tax burden
You lower your tax burden by as much as the taxes you would have otherwise paid on the money you gave to charity.
If you give 100$ that would have been taxed at 30%, you get a 30$ tax deduction, you're still down 70$.
Yeah, but if you control said foundation, you can then have it spent on things that you care about. It isn't the get out of tax free card that some people make it out to be, but it can probably be beneficial in some situations.
Is what I, someone who hasn't got the slightest clue about U.S. law, thinks.
Sure, but in theory the charity can be audited and it shouldn't be buying you stuff you would have spent that money on otherwise... Like, you can't give money to a charity and have it buy you a yacht.
I mean, sure. I was more thinking about "I care about deforestation/child poverty/outlawing abortion/etc, so I'm gonna make sure my money goes there, and I won't even have to pay taxes on (that part of) it", with maybe a bit of "I own (many shares of) a company that does X, so why not suggest that the foundation prefers them as a supplier".
Like, that doesn't allow you to buy yachts with it, but if you're working with that kind of money, you probably have a yacht, or don't want one/another, and exerting influence is the most interesting thing you can use it for. The particular objective doesn't have to be harmful, but I feel that it gives very few people another way to excert outsized control on our world, and take revenue away from the state, which might also waste it, but over which the people should, theoretically, be able to excert more influence than on a very wealthy individual.
But that's a tax advantage anyone can have access to by giving money to the charity of their choice.
The tax advantage, yes, the control, no. I like giving to doctors without borders, but I can't control their objectives, nor their leadership.
In the end, my problem is with giving power to individuals who can't be held accountable. The tax part was mostly an excuse to rant about that.
I can’t hire my friends to run my charity and pick their salary
But then your friend would pay taxes on that income so your money ends up being taxed.
Not really how percentages work my dude, still less going to the govt
It's still exactly the same as contributing to any other charity that has paid employees and everyone has access to the tax deduction that comes with doing this kind of contribution.
If I donate to a charity, I can’t hire my friend and pay them a 6 figure salary. No idea how it’s even similar.
You can pay yourself as admin of said charity. Give me $100, I pay $20 tax or stick it in charity to reduce my tax burden. I have $80. I get 100 other people to give my charity $100 each, it has $10k, I take 50% for admin costs, the rest is disbursed. I still make more money than lost to any tax. That’s how a rich person makes money by running a charity. Make even more family money by putting your kids on the BoD.
And then you pay taxes on that salary.
Of course. Still making $, though.
You're not making more than if you had just kept that money in the first place.
Apparently your math is different than mine. I suggest you re-read what I wrote. How is collecting money as a charity admin not making more?
You take your regular job's wage, send 100$ to your own charity so you collect 30$ back in tax deduction.
The charity gets 100$, you're out 70$.
The charity then pays you 100$ in salary.
You're up 30$ but you have to pay 30$ in taxes on that 100$, in the end you're back to square one.
Taxes are paid on your total income no matter the source.
You skipped the entire part where I run the charity.
Except you claim every dollar of your donation, not 30%?
Technically you can as long as the yacht is used exclusively for the charity. This was the case when the rightwing tried to say a BLM charity foundation misused funds to buy a mansion, but it turns out the mansion stayed in the hands of the charity even after those administrators left the foundation. AFAIK the mansion was only ever used for meetings, fundraisers, and celebrations.
Foundations aren't deductible though. You have to give it away to an honest-to-God charity approved by the IRS for it to do anything. And even then, you can never get more money by donating it than you would just keeping the money.
Foundations are typically 501c3s
My bad, that's true. I guess it's that private foundations are more limited in how much you can deduct. To qualify as a public charity, a foundation needs to get at least a third of its funding from the public and have other board members, so they can't just be self-funded and self-directed. A private foundation still has to be for a qualified charitable purpose but only lets you deduct half as much of contributions.
They put their money into other people's charities so it doesn't look so obvious. Scratching each other's backs.
So what doesn't look so obvious? You know that donations can be claimed on your taxes too, right?
They don't get the same kind of social debts between each other when they donate to their own charities. You know, the back scratching thing that I mentioned.
There is a lot more to it than just the charitable donation deduction. They are all getting a tax deduction for exchanging money with other wealthy people through their charities and the charities spend money on each other's businesses.
The post-slap life is a hard life
It's the post-slap life for us
It's the post-slap life for us
'Stead of treated
We get tricked
'Stead of kisses
We get kicked
It's the post-slap life
If Will left Jada, and went full scorched earth on her and the scientologists (e.g. Leah Remini), We'd all love him again.
I wouldn't. He's always been a cocky prick. You could see it come out in interviews sometimes.
He basically physically threatened Colbert while being interviewed on his show for his role in Ali. Will Smith is charming, so he's gotten away with a lot. The mask is off now though.
Edit: the Colbert interview was for Hancock, not Ali.
https://www.cc.com/video/ilejmp/the-colbert-report-will-smith
Ali came out in 2001, while The Colbert Report didn't Debut until 2005. link?
You're right it was an interview for Hancock.
https://www.cc.com/video/ilejmp/the-colbert-report-will-smith
So when he made a comment about how Stephen must have been beaten up at some point? I mean. That's reaching. it was awkward, but imo really doesn't rise to "basically physically threatened." Especially since Colbert has had him on his shows repeatedly afterwards, you'd think that if Stephen didn't feel safe around him, probly wouldn't have him back on.
On another note, god I miss the Colbert Report. That was peak satire.
That's how veiled threats work. There was nothing wrong with Colbert's face. Smith brought up someone kicking his ass out of nowhere. Colbert understood and even said something like "I hope nobody kicks my ass this interview". Smith later states how he's handsome and strong. Etc.
Do you not understand how banter works? Have you never had a conversation with friends before? I mean the guy is a douche but you don't need to just make wild shit up, there's plenty of ACTUAL things he's done to not like him before you start lying
Perhaps you just didn't pick up on the threat, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It was obvious enough for me to notice it and remember it 16 years later.
You think I just kept that interview in my pocket that long waiting for the right opportunity to... lie about Will Smith? And that seems to make you angry?
This is Jaden isn't it? I just found Jaden Smith on Lemmy.
You're an idiot.
Feel better?
How can eyes be real if our eyes see no real eyes
I mean, he also broke into his Muhammad Ali act around the same time, so it could have come from there, but I guess I see your point? I'm just not prepared to judge the guy based upon that.
I watched the whole thing, no where in that does he threaten anyone. He's a pompous douche promoting his movie but he doesn't remotely threaten anyone
I looked it up and today is the 2 year anniversary of The Slap. Doesn't seem like it's been that long.
That's because every day is torture in this late stage capitalist hellscape
We all know the saying, time flies when you're being tortured.
I WANT TO GET OFF MR BONES WILD RIDE
The Slappening
Did he go to this year's oscars?
No, he voluntarily returned his membership to the academy and they banned him from attending for 10 years.
Shitty movie bitch and maniacal evil groomer villain, aka Scientology Abridged still exist?