$1000 is the maximum contempt of court fine per offense allowed in the state of New York. While this is definitely chump change for trump know that the judge can't charge him more. At least he's threatening incarceration.
Couldn't they just cut to the incarceration?
They could, but doing that on the 2nd round of contempt charges later this week might reduce the odds of his becoming a martyr over it
Stop saying this idiotic martyr shit.
Why? It's an extremely valid consideration. Politics is all about appearances... if Trump confirms the violation by paying the fine without question then incarceration will be harder to dismiss.
We're living in crazy times right now, normal rules don't really apply and people are just trying to avoid triggering a civil war.
We are talking about a literal fascist dictator.
The person you replied to was certainly rude about it, however the frustration stems from this constant liberal attitude of playing nice, keeping the kid gloves on, letting the SyStEm handle it.
This strategy has never once worked on conservatives throughout all of recorded history.
You refuse to realize these people are playing for their right to kill you, like all this is just some difference of personal opinions.
The 30% that happily watches 30% kill the last 30% never thinks they’ll be in the 30% that stood and waited politely for their turn to die.
If you don't want to let the system handle it, what actions are you personally taking to bring about the change you want to see?
Because the options are to try to handle this relatively peacefully through the system, or to bypass the system with violent action. The other side has been champing at the bit for decades for an excuse to turn to mass violence, so you might have some catching up to do in terms of organizing support and stockpiling supplies for the coming conflict you seem to want. If that's the case, probably best to get yourself off Lemmy, don't want to leave a paper trail, then go out and start hoarding guns and ammo, maybe dig a bunker somewhere.
Doing so would give grounds to file for a mistrial if / when Trump is convicted and nobody wants that.
How would holding somebody accountable for their actions result in a mistrial?
There's a normal pattern to how courts work and if a court deviates from that pattern it opens up another avenue for the defense to request a mistrial.
I get that everyone wants the max penalty straight off the jump when it comes to Trump but its far more important that it be done correctly in order to minimize future problems.
Is this the normal pattern? Ignore several times before issuing a fine?
The fine is $1000, so it's sole purpose is to be a weapon against the working class.
The system is designed to enable rich criminals to prosper.
That's like charging me $0.90 or $1.80 depending on if I inflate my assets at all
Yes but it sets legal dominoes in motion in ALL of his cases.
The bail conditions in ALL his cases include not breaking any laws. Federal, state and local laws.
He's now charged with "contempt of court" so he should be getting more orange soon. 🤞
I'll take "More Shit that Won't Happen" for $600, Alex.
Wake me up when green is the new orange
It's the maximum allowed per offense in New York. But now that he has been fined, the judge can escalate next time he violates the order.
Trumps a broke bitch, at the absolute minimum, it's going to piss him off to the point he's going to be laying awake raging. Golly, I hope it doesn't give him a McHeartattack. I want to see him suffer through the rest of the court cases.
$9,000? So now contempt of court has a price tag, and it's one even his fraudulent ass can easily afford. Way to make things worse again, guys.
It's the legal maximum fine. Judge can impose jail time, but didn't this time. There are already four more gag order violations which will be discussed later in the week.
I think they haven’t imposed jail time on this fucking traitor because they don’t want to turn him into a martyr. I truly believe Trump wants to go to jail so he can fundraise from there. As much as I’d like to see him behind bars, I don’t want it to be a three week stint. If we’re going to put him in jail it needs to be for the rest of his life. Make El Chapo his cell mate. That would be nice.
He's already a fucking martyr, it's just a matter of when/where the bastard keels over. His base is riled up enough that no matter how he dies, it will be a conspiracy theory nightmare and probably trigger another january 6th style incident.
The faster he is removed from the public eye, they faster people forget about him and latch onto some other bullshit
They'll also constantly insist he's coming back from the dead. He's effectively a religious figure now because humanity is hopelessly warped.
That and they'd have to set up room and board for secret service inside the jail along with a host of other security measures to make sure he doesn't get murdered by an inmate.
They may have to put him under house arrest without an Internet or ohone connection. Force all communication with the outside world to go through his lawyers and a probation officer.
Sentence him to only getting his fast food from KFC
The system is functioning exactly as designed, to the benefit of those that designed it and to the detriment of people they consider enemies. Making crime legal for a fee is exactly what it's supposed to do, as that allows the aristocrats to continue regulating the rest of us while giving them free rein.
If Trump gets jail time, it should be from right before the nomination to after the day of the election. Since he can only be jailed one month per offense, I would hold off on jail until he can't get out before the election. Ideally, the first time Trump sees prison should be after a jury conviction - as he has already set up a "woe is me, the judge is a liberal plant" defense if the jailing comes purely under the discretion of judge.
joke's on you imagining there's a circumstance in which he'd simply accept responsibility for the constant parade of crimes he commits. he's gonna whine and play victim no matter how obviously guilty he is or how much preferential treatment he's received.
It won't be timed like that due to his currently pending contempt charges — it'll look like 30 days or less, happening in May.
Let's see if he deletes the stuff by 2:15pm today or not....
It's gone. Trump never fights back. He just cries like a baby.
Wen jail?
Seriously, BFD. 9k is nothing and he won't go to jail even though he should already be there.
Prosecutors are walking Keith Davidson through his text messages with Dylan Howard, who was editor of The National Enquirer, in which Davidson tells Howard: “I have blockbuster Trump story.” In his reply, Howard asked, "did he cheat" on Melania.
Lol. The head of the National Enquirer was told there was a blockbuster story about Trump and he just assumed Trump had cheated on Melania. Or as Trump calls her: "Melanie".
We're doomed. If it's not fascism, it's bird flu. Really it's probably both.
$1000 is the maximum contempt of court fine per offense allowed in the state of New York. While this is definitely chump change for trump know that the judge can't charge him more. At least he's threatening incarceration.
Couldn't they just cut to the incarceration?
They could, but doing that on the 2nd round of contempt charges later this week might reduce the odds of his becoming a martyr over it
Stop saying this idiotic martyr shit.
Why? It's an extremely valid consideration. Politics is all about appearances... if Trump confirms the violation by paying the fine without question then incarceration will be harder to dismiss.
We're living in crazy times right now, normal rules don't really apply and people are just trying to avoid triggering a civil war.
We are talking about a literal fascist dictator.
The person you replied to was certainly rude about it, however the frustration stems from this constant liberal attitude of playing nice, keeping the kid gloves on, letting the SyStEm handle it.
This strategy has never once worked on conservatives throughout all of recorded history.
You refuse to realize these people are playing for their right to kill you, like all this is just some difference of personal opinions.
The 30% that happily watches 30% kill the last 30% never thinks they’ll be in the 30% that stood and waited politely for their turn to die.
If you don't want to let the system handle it, what actions are you personally taking to bring about the change you want to see?
Because the options are to try to handle this relatively peacefully through the system, or to bypass the system with violent action. The other side has been champing at the bit for decades for an excuse to turn to mass violence, so you might have some catching up to do in terms of organizing support and stockpiling supplies for the coming conflict you seem to want. If that's the case, probably best to get yourself off Lemmy, don't want to leave a paper trail, then go out and start hoarding guns and ammo, maybe dig a bunker somewhere.
Doing so would give grounds to file for a mistrial if / when Trump is convicted and nobody wants that.
How would holding somebody accountable for their actions result in a mistrial?
There's a normal pattern to how courts work and if a court deviates from that pattern it opens up another avenue for the defense to request a mistrial.
I get that everyone wants the max penalty straight off the jump when it comes to Trump but its far more important that it be done correctly in order to minimize future problems.
Is this the normal pattern? Ignore several times before issuing a fine?
The fine is $1000, so it's sole purpose is to be a weapon against the working class.
The system is designed to enable rich criminals to prosper.
That's like charging me $0.90 or $1.80 depending on if I inflate my assets at all
Yes but it sets legal dominoes in motion in ALL of his cases.
The bail conditions in ALL his cases include not breaking any laws. Federal, state and local laws.
He's now charged with "contempt of court" so he should be getting more orange soon. 🤞
I'll take "More Shit that Won't Happen" for $600, Alex.
Wake me up when green is the new orange
It's the maximum allowed per offense in New York. But now that he has been fined, the judge can escalate next time he violates the order.
Trumps a broke bitch, at the absolute minimum, it's going to piss him off to the point he's going to be laying awake raging. Golly, I hope it doesn't give him a McHeartattack. I want to see him suffer through the rest of the court cases.
$9,000? So now contempt of court has a price tag, and it's one even his fraudulent ass can easily afford. Way to make things worse again, guys.
It's the legal maximum fine. Judge can impose jail time, but didn't this time. There are already four more gag order violations which will be discussed later in the week.
I think they haven’t imposed jail time on this fucking traitor because they don’t want to turn him into a martyr. I truly believe Trump wants to go to jail so he can fundraise from there. As much as I’d like to see him behind bars, I don’t want it to be a three week stint. If we’re going to put him in jail it needs to be for the rest of his life. Make El Chapo his cell mate. That would be nice.
He's already a fucking martyr, it's just a matter of when/where the bastard keels over. His base is riled up enough that no matter how he dies, it will be a conspiracy theory nightmare and probably trigger another january 6th style incident.
The faster he is removed from the public eye, they faster people forget about him and latch onto some other bullshit
They'll also constantly insist he's coming back from the dead. He's effectively a religious figure now because humanity is hopelessly warped.
That and they'd have to set up room and board for secret service inside the jail along with a host of other security measures to make sure he doesn't get murdered by an inmate.
They may have to put him under house arrest without an Internet or ohone connection. Force all communication with the outside world to go through his lawyers and a probation officer.
Sentence him to only getting his fast food from KFC
Sentence him to eating his vegetables and no ice cream.
ADX Florence would be nice and secure for him. It even has netflix and cable apparently.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence
That’s like fining a normal person a nickle.
Why aren’t these things based on net worth? These systems are so broken.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does
The system is functioning exactly as designed, to the benefit of those that designed it and to the detriment of people they consider enemies. Making crime legal for a fee is exactly what it's supposed to do, as that allows the aristocrats to continue regulating the rest of us while giving them free rein.
If Trump gets jail time, it should be from right before the nomination to after the day of the election. Since he can only be jailed one month per offense, I would hold off on jail until he can't get out before the election. Ideally, the first time Trump sees prison should be after a jury conviction - as he has already set up a "woe is me, the judge is a liberal plant" defense if the jailing comes purely under the discretion of judge.
joke's on you imagining there's a circumstance in which he'd simply accept responsibility for the constant parade of crimes he commits. he's gonna whine and play victim no matter how obviously guilty he is or how much preferential treatment he's received.
It won't be timed like that due to his currently pending contempt charges — it'll look like 30 days or less, happening in May.
Let's see if he deletes the stuff by 2:15pm today or not....
It's gone. Trump never fights back. He just cries like a baby.
Wen jail?
Seriously, BFD. 9k is nothing and he won't go to jail even though he should already be there.
Lol. The head of the National Enquirer was told there was a blockbuster story about Trump and he just assumed Trump had cheated on Melania. Or as Trump calls her: "Melanie".
We're doomed. If it's not fascism, it's bird flu. Really it's probably both.
microplastics
Climate change
And let THAT be a LESSON to this BILLIONAIRE!