How it feels to install windows in 2023

Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works to Linux@lemmy.ml – 526 points –
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And then finding your way around the forced windows account. ANNOYING

Use no@thank.you as the account name, anything as the password. It will say "whoopsie, there was an error" and then you can create a local account.

Holy shit are you serious?

100%. I use it all the time on test machines at work.

Is this a hardcoded opt out or something? Couple of months ago I had to install windows for a friend. I tried to not make a windows account. All the exploits I found, were “patched”. I finally just gave up and made the account. My friend doesn’t care enough about privacy and I don’t care enough about windows for all that effort.

But, no@thank.you would be awesome.

I'm not totally sure but I would guess that it's not hardcoded. Probably just buggy behavior, as is usual for Microsoft.

you can type anything you want in both fields to skip it. a keysmash is my preferred method

Or something about not connecting to a wifi or ethernet connection during install. https://www.ghacks.net/2023/01/26/how-to-bypass-the-microsoft-account-requirement-during-windows-setup/

Windows will display a "Let's connect you to a network" or similar screen. The upcoming Windows 11 version 22H2 does not allow you to skip this anymore to create a local account.

they actually restricted this method, evil

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Or just anything invalid. I usually do "m" as the username and "m" as the password.

Have to try virtually! Even if Windows 10 are so much better than Windows 11.

Ooh, that reminds me, I need to delete the Windows VM i made for hte STALKER: Anomaly - Gamma installer.

Hehe. That edition of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. works in Linux through Lutris 😊 Not perfectly, but it works.

but the installer doesnt cause its written in windows powershell. Had to install a VM just to get the installer to download/unpack the game, then i set up lutris for it.

Supposedly the next version of the installer is going to use a more agnostic scripting, but i dont know if thats come out yet.

I don't know about these workarounds but I remember Win10 has something like "Create for another person" then "I don't have their info" and it will just let you create a local acocunt. I don't know about 11 tho

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don't forget the constant messages to use Edge as your default browser! blegh!

If you don’t add a WiFi network and don’t plug in ethernet then you can also make a local account.

I had to create new registry keys and relaunch the OOBE with special flags to get around it in windows 11. Such a pain in the ass.

Dude, how the fuck?

I did it once some how making a Rufus USB stick but next time I used Rufus I either didn't get a settings prompt or it just didn't work.

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Yep. Why I use Linux now. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I like your profile picture. Kind of unnerves me though!

Thanks! Ripley’s aquarium in Toronto.

Same. Was a windows user all my life. Tried dabbling with Linux a few times, but the shit microsofts doing now is what drove me to linux.

Got several family members on it too, They do nothing but webbrowse so its been going stellar for them.

Pro tip: You can hit space tab space tab... to quickly cycle through them all.

I will say though, it is mighty refreshing to go through a Linux installer now.

Illusion of privacy lol

Can't find it anymore, but I remember someone did a DNS analysis and they are even pinging McAfee servers, before you open any apps.

Windows sucks but that article was click bait bullshit and was due to the laptop manufacturer bloat ware.

Not just installing. When updating, sometimes it tries to reset the options and change my default browser to edge.

It resets everything, including a bunch of tracking shit you intentionally turned off.

Edge would ALWAYS get on the way with its stupid search bar widget. They tried to improve their shitty outdated piece of crap internet explorer that nobody was using and they ended up with a modern shitty piece of crap that is edge.

Didn't Bill Gates leave Microsoft in 2008? Other than that, yeah.

Seriously, lol; how did this post even get upvotes? (UpLemmies? Whatever they're called here)

Also this was one of the early windows 10 updates lol. Like 2017 or something.

How it feels to install windows in 2023 is to drop to a hidden shell and run some commands to create a local account instead of a Microsoft account to log into your computer. Fuckin disgusting.

Yes, he isn't even on the board anymore. He's only involved in his charity, and palling around with Warren Buffett these days.

Don’t forget to scroll down otherwise you miss a very important one that’s hidden

Oh yeah, the fuck me in the ass option.

It is 2023, you want that check on.

No one should feel pain of installing Windows, no one deserves that

I do it almost weekly for my job. I need to improve my Unix skills and become a Linux sysadmin

You can totally automate the Windows install process and configuration. Not even Windows sysadmins should have to be dealing with it manually.

We still use golden images, so whenever we refresh that I need to install windows on a VM. We still do our servers manually

all these will be reinstated in the next update and all the unsent locally collected information will be sent with the consent you gave by not preventing your system from updating

Bill hasn't been associated with Microsoft decisions in like 15 years. Yes he still owns a shit load of the company, but he's not the CEO, he doesn't even sit on the board. He sits in his 16,000 square foot lakefront Medina, WA mansion and gets richer.

Public consciousness skipped Ballmer's CEO era and apparently Satya's name is too difficult to remember.

I use Linux nowadays, but I still have dual boot cause of some games. I use LTSB debloated with stopped updates and telemetry.

I actually somewhat enjoy using Windows 10 after using a debloat tool and adding a package manager. Windows 11 is still unbearable though.

I feel like the only think I like about windows is that everything works in terms of graphics and plug and play. Plug and play has been good to me on Linux for a while though.

I still get graphics issues on fedora and Ubuntu on my integrated graphics chips.

As a side note, you can use O&O ShutUp10++ to do all these settings quickly so you don't have to hunt around all the menus. It has presets too IIRC.

Also it works on Windows 11 too despite the name.

I installed it in VirtualBox because I wanted to try if a neovim plugin worked with it.

The most awful experience ever. It's so bad it's tragic, and screams surveillance late stage capitalism. If people don't notice that, it's because they have slowly become used to it under the windows regime.

I think the day I have to reinstall Windows on my Desktop will be the day I'll replace it with Linux. Already use it on server and laptop but stuck with Windows for gaming. Anyone know if SteamVR works on Linux?

I got it to launch but I only got about 15 FPS.

So it is at least possible. My PC is pretty outdated so it might work for you if you have a good graphics card with good drivers

It works with the valve index and I think the vice pro. I have the cosmos which doesn’t work… point being google your headset there will probably be some detailed advice for it!

The reason why I still use Windows is Excel, because everyone still relies on Excel formulas and macros 🙄

Bro just say fuck it. If you use Linux you don't need to care about regular lifestyle traditions. Treat yo self.

Doesn't the browser version do the trick?

Ver often, it doesn't. I had to use Excel for some asignments, and because I'm on a pretty low end machine, I ended up dualbooting.

You can use it using your browser with Office 365, no ?

@Steamymoomilk recently had to do a clean win 11 install. Spent a day trying to get the Intel RST driver loaded just to begin install. After trying various sources including the recovery media from manufacturer had to take it to a few repair centers(many claimed bad SSD even though I explained what driver was needed) to just install the OS it came with.

Same laptop have installed a half dozen linux distros with no such issue.

That's the monolithic for you, has drivers for basically everything minus NVIDIA tho.

Thats why i use IPXE and a sysprepped image when i do need windows. Or i got to install windows for friends and familie

Honestly, if Solaar supported the dpi toggle and remapping my extra keys on my MX Ergo, I might be using Linux daily. But it doesn't. So I can't. :(

Are you using 1.1.9? I have remap ability

I think so. It clicks the button, it just won't hold it. And the precision mode dpi adjustment thing doesn't work at all.