JesusFuckingChrist. Why doesn't this guy just go and start proposing legislation like "The Logan's Run Bill", where anybody who isn't doing exactly what he thinks they need to be doing past age 30 gets a laser to the head.
What an intense battle there must be raging in his head between the Malignant Narcissist, and the Idiot Amateur Sociologist personalities.
I don't think Vance is a malignant narcissist. Just look at his reaction to learning Trump threw him under the bus on the weird-thing ("No, not me. They're saying that about JD"). Way too timid. He does strike me as power hungry and insecure, but more in the manner of an amoral weasel with no spine and no dignity.
He's an opportunistic weasel. That's why he doesn't stand up for himself. Power hungry, yes. Insecure, long walk. He sure doesn't seem shy about his ridiculous opinions he knows are unpopular, unreasonable, and idiotic.
Run runner!
The laser to the head was just for runners. If you participate in Carousel, you are reincarnated.
maybe more like 'recycled' --
What's the purpose of a couch?
You stick your dick in em, obviously.
The grandmother hypothesis is actually a thing in human evolutionary biology, with some studies suggesting that having a grandmother helped ensure survival of her grandchildren. After all, humans are the only primates who go through menopause, and we also have much more complicated birthing and longer child rearing periods.
But it has some significant criticisms, and like most uses of evolutionary biology it ignores the fact that we no longer spend our days walking naked in nature and eating wild edibles.
Thank you! I've read a few articles saying the same, and it makes sense. My wife is well past menopause and has been a great asset to her children and grandchildren. I imagine such relationships were far more important to our ancestors, even recent generations.
But FFS, saying shit like this out loud, given his past statements... My god the man can't read the room. Does he really imagine this is winning hearts and minds?!
Exactly: saying that postmenopausal females contributing to childcare is a purpose, in an evolutionary biology context, is one thing. Saying it's their "whole" purpose is entirely another. And doing the latter in a political context? Holy shit, that's like a Chinese military parade's worth of red flags.
My god the man can't read the room. Does he really imagine this is winning hearts and minds?!
Well, he's a Senator,.so lots of folks presumably happy with this weird shit.
it just reminds me when I was five I was told molars are for chewing plants so I started chewing on plants in my yard until somebody stopped me. Except JD Vance is like a 50 yr old man who hears something like a speculative theory about fitness is like "this sounds like the truth better make it into a law or something".
Using evolutionary biology to tell people what to do is something these chuds do all the time
it ignores the fact that we no longer spend our days naked through walking in nature and eating wild edibles.
Yes, we have advanced brains, and with it comes the ability to spit in evolution's eye and do whatever TF we want. Appealing to nature is never a good argument. If it were, I'd expect the person saying it to go hunt sewer rats for their next meal.
I've read a few hypothesis regarding our gay population. You have to ask yourself why a fair chunk of the population that doesn't reproduce is/was anything but a detriment. This is, I think, why so many view homosexuality as unnatural. (Y'all. Spare me the evidence of mammalian homosexuality, I am well aware.)
A moment's thought may clear things up. We have a small percentage of people who are not burdened with child care, yet are able to contribute to the tribe. Just like a grandmother? Gays are a force multiplier.
So no, I'm fine with appeals to nature, given context and education. Helps us to understand who we are and how we ended up as we are.
(For those that may not get the force multiplier statement, I'm drunk and want to write more!)
Imagine you're trying to survive in a group that consists or 20 hetero couples. Maybe a woman or two is pregnant, maybe there are already kids tagging along. As a cis male, bring on the gays! They're happy screwing each other, no jealousy issues from the majority of us, no fights that reduce our fitness. A gay man can haul just as much firewood as I. A gay woman can feed a child (even lactating without children of her own!) as well as any other. Why the hell would you not wants gays in your group?
Tying being gay to evolution would require it to genetic, which isn't the case. Additionally, if it was, it would likely select itself out of existence because helping other people raise children may be great for the community and humanity as a whole, but negatively impacts passing down your own genetics, which is counter to the mechanism of evolution.
same sex coupling happens a lot in nature, especially in social animals. I think its often that communities benefit from having a number of extra adults nearby to socialize stray children when their parents are eaten and it reduces often violent contests for heirarchies. so maybe its more likely to happen in heirarchical societies like monarchies or oligarchies, or ones with extensive private property rules.
Or just to rephrase it, communities benefit from having certain ratios of adults to children and gay coupling is one of many evolutionary tools to help adjust that.
What a fucking weird thing to say! Like who thinks like this?
I can understand that the elderly aren't as physically capable as the newer generation, so in a tribal scenario the place they would provide the most value is as teachers and mentors.
The weird part is why this is limited to women, and "whole purpose" qualifier seems extreme? And wtf are the elderly men doing in this scenario?!
Also, I'm not sure if republicans have noticed, but we have advanced past the stone age
Elderly men are having viagra parties and play golf ofc
The caviat is that since the females are only raising children's, the Viagra parties are male only
You just described the Bohemian Grove.
Men actually have andropause. It's just less effective at nuking fertility 100%. It also starts later for men.
Ahh, could this be why I’ve started peeing blood and am so irritable all the time?
I recommend seeing a doctor if you're urinating blood. It's usually a sign that something is seriously wrong.
Yeah honestly it seems cruel huh? The orca's had the right idea. Male orcas live less than half a femal le orca's lifespan. Would have saved you the trouble.
Evolution-wise the "whole purpose of postmenopausal females" is anything that ensures survival of their descendants. That is not confined to raising children or indicative that grandpas don't help raise children as well. If they go collect food it still counts. If they are in charge of their tribe and make wise decisions it still counts.
We are not beholden to evolution. Higher thinking has made survival a very different game for humans.
Can these MAGA idiots just pretend to be normal humans for a minute instead of talking like real-life handmaid's tale?
Imagine what kind of fuckbrain you’d have to be to select this guy as your running mate.
As much as it pains me to say something that could be construed as defending Donald Trump, there's no way he knew about the vast majority of this stuff when he selected Vance as his running mate. Hell, I'd be surprised if he's paying much attention to it now. Narcissists of his caliber don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.
I know Vance is a Republican, but it seems it would be more fitting if we could write (D-OH!) after everything he says
Why do older men exist? At least in the view of "JD"?
My best guess based upon the old perverted felons he associates with:
...To rape teen girls and young women so that their "superior" genetics can be passed on to more offspring.
I feel dirty now...
The Musk model.
Dipshit Eulogy
More proof that these weirdos want everybody to live inside the movie “Deliverance”.
Guy is a piece of shit
this guy needs to be thrown into a dumpster until he can talk like a human
^So^ ^never^
Say what you want about him, but guy's damn consistent. A massive asshole but a consistent one. All the easier to dismiss him as a whole package!
Eh, he went from Never Trumper to Trump's VP, so that wasn't very consistent of him. Though I guess you could say he's consistent in pursuing his own self-interest.
Consistency is actually not one of Vance's strong points either. He went from being vocally anti-trump, somewhat ok with trans people, etc. to the complete opposite when the opportunity showed up
Omg, this guy is so done.
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JesusFuckingChrist. Why doesn't this guy just go and start proposing legislation like "The Logan's Run Bill", where anybody who isn't doing exactly what he thinks they need to be doing past age 30 gets a laser to the head.
What an intense battle there must be raging in his head between the Malignant Narcissist, and the Idiot Amateur Sociologist personalities.
I don't think Vance is a malignant narcissist. Just look at his reaction to learning Trump threw him under the bus on the weird-thing ("No, not me. They're saying that about JD"). Way too timid. He does strike me as power hungry and insecure, but more in the manner of an amoral weasel with no spine and no dignity.
He's an opportunistic weasel. That's why he doesn't stand up for himself. Power hungry, yes. Insecure, long walk. He sure doesn't seem shy about his ridiculous opinions he knows are unpopular, unreasonable, and idiotic.
Run runner!
The laser to the head was just for runners. If you participate in Carousel, you are reincarnated.
maybe more like 'recycled' --
What's the purpose of a couch?
You stick your dick in em, obviously.
The grandmother hypothesis is actually a thing in human evolutionary biology, with some studies suggesting that having a grandmother helped ensure survival of her grandchildren. After all, humans are the only primates who go through menopause, and we also have much more complicated birthing and longer child rearing periods.
But it has some significant criticisms, and like most uses of evolutionary biology it ignores the fact that we no longer spend our days walking naked in nature and eating wild edibles.
Thank you! I've read a few articles saying the same, and it makes sense. My wife is well past menopause and has been a great asset to her children and grandchildren. I imagine such relationships were far more important to our ancestors, even recent generations.
But FFS, saying shit like this out loud, given his past statements... My god the man can't read the room. Does he really imagine this is winning hearts and minds?!
Exactly: saying that postmenopausal females contributing to childcare is a purpose, in an evolutionary biology context, is one thing. Saying it's their "whole" purpose is entirely another. And doing the latter in a political context? Holy shit, that's like a Chinese military parade's worth of red flags.
Well, he's a Senator,.so lots of folks presumably happy with this weird shit.
it just reminds me when I was five I was told molars are for chewing plants so I started chewing on plants in my yard until somebody stopped me. Except JD Vance is like a 50 yr old man who hears something like a speculative theory about fitness is like "this sounds like the truth better make it into a law or something".
Using evolutionary biology to tell people what to do is something these chuds do all the time
Yes, we have advanced brains, and with it comes the ability to spit in evolution's eye and do whatever TF we want. Appealing to nature is never a good argument. If it were, I'd expect the person saying it to go hunt sewer rats for their next meal.
I've read a few hypothesis regarding our gay population. You have to ask yourself why a fair chunk of the population that doesn't reproduce is/was anything but a detriment. This is, I think, why so many view homosexuality as unnatural. (Y'all. Spare me the evidence of mammalian homosexuality, I am well aware.)
A moment's thought may clear things up. We have a small percentage of people who are not burdened with child care, yet are able to contribute to the tribe. Just like a grandmother? Gays are a force multiplier.
So no, I'm fine with appeals to nature, given context and education. Helps us to understand who we are and how we ended up as we are.
(For those that may not get the force multiplier statement, I'm drunk and want to write more!)
Imagine you're trying to survive in a group that consists or 20 hetero couples. Maybe a woman or two is pregnant, maybe there are already kids tagging along. As a cis male, bring on the gays! They're happy screwing each other, no jealousy issues from the majority of us, no fights that reduce our fitness. A gay man can haul just as much firewood as I. A gay woman can feed a child (even lactating without children of her own!) as well as any other. Why the hell would you not wants gays in your group?
Tying being gay to evolution would require it to genetic, which isn't the case. Additionally, if it was, it would likely select itself out of existence because helping other people raise children may be great for the community and humanity as a whole, but negatively impacts passing down your own genetics, which is counter to the mechanism of evolution.
same sex coupling happens a lot in nature, especially in social animals. I think its often that communities benefit from having a number of extra adults nearby to socialize stray children when their parents are eaten and it reduces often violent contests for heirarchies. so maybe its more likely to happen in heirarchical societies like monarchies or oligarchies, or ones with extensive private property rules.
Or just to rephrase it, communities benefit from having certain ratios of adults to children and gay coupling is one of many evolutionary tools to help adjust that.
What a fucking weird thing to say! Like who thinks like this?
I can understand that the elderly aren't as physically capable as the newer generation, so in a tribal scenario the place they would provide the most value is as teachers and mentors.
The weird part is why this is limited to women, and "whole purpose" qualifier seems extreme? And wtf are the elderly men doing in this scenario?!
Also, I'm not sure if republicans have noticed, but we have advanced past the stone age
Elderly men are having viagra parties and play golf ofc
The caviat is that since the females are only raising children's, the Viagra parties are male only
You just described the Bohemian Grove.
Men actually have andropause. It's just less effective at nuking fertility 100%. It also starts later for men.
Ahh, could this be why I’ve started peeing blood and am so irritable all the time?
I recommend seeing a doctor if you're urinating blood. It's usually a sign that something is seriously wrong.
Yeah honestly it seems cruel huh? The orca's had the right idea. Male orcas live less than half a femal le orca's lifespan. Would have saved you the trouble.
Imagine what kind of fuckbrain you’d have to be to select this guy as your running mate.
As much as it pains me to say something that could be construed as defending Donald Trump, there's no way he knew about the vast majority of this stuff when he selected Vance as his running mate. Hell, I'd be surprised if he's paying much attention to it now. Narcissists of his caliber don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.
I know Vance is a Republican, but it seems it would be more fitting if we could write (D-OH!) after everything he says
Why do older men exist? At least in the view of "JD"?
My best guess based upon the old perverted felons he associates with:
...To rape teen girls and young women so that their "superior" genetics can be passed on to more offspring.
I feel dirty now...
The Musk model.
Dipshit Eulogy
More proof that these weirdos want everybody to live inside the movie “Deliverance”.
Guy is a piece of shit
this guy needs to be thrown into a dumpster until he can talk like a human
^So^ ^never^
Say what you want about him, but guy's damn consistent. A massive asshole but a consistent one. All the easier to dismiss him as a whole package!
Eh, he went from Never Trumper to Trump's VP, so that wasn't very consistent of him. Though I guess you could say he's consistent in pursuing his own self-interest.
Consistency is actually not one of Vance's strong points either. He went from being vocally anti-trump, somewhat ok with trans people, etc. to the complete opposite when the opportunity showed up
Omg, this guy is so done.
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Everytime he speaks it like he's quoting eugenics material
Seems relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Vgdnx4zPg
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