Twitter accused of helping Saudi Arabia commit human rights abuses
theguardian.com
"Lawsuit says network discloses user data at request of Saudi authorities at much higher rate than for US, UK and Canada"
"Lawsuit says network discloses user data at request of Saudi authorities at much higher rate than for US, UK and Canada"
Not surprising to anyone who remembers that the saudis gave Elon the money needed to buy Twitter. Naturally they have an anti democratic interest in it
The article isn't about Musk
Correct. This is largely for a time pre Musk.
Back in those innocent times when they were just murdering journalists and cremating them in barrels.
The major connection of SA to twitter before Musk was Prince Alwaleed but it doesn't add up because he was one of those being purged by MbS..
Lol I'm being downvoted. That's hilarious
Most folks read comments before articles. Unless you’re more specific about timeframe you’ll fall into the same trap as folks commenting before reading as well.
That being said when an apartheid, blood emerald silver spoon sucking moron takes over twitter and proceeds to ban speech as a “free speech absolutist” all while racist, vile, toxic bullshit floods the platform it’s not weird that people make a connection.
It’s not accurate per this article but I think all of this, people’s comments, the article, the context… it is outlining a pattern that this dipshit is absolutely a part of.
A desperate attention seeking piece of shit taking Saudi money to do the thing isn’t too far off from this article about saudis doing the thing. Though it’s not apt , it’s kinda related.
Fixed that for you.
“A desperate attention seeking piece of shit taking Saudi money to do the thing isn’t too far off from this article about saudis doing the thing. Though it’s not apt , it’s kinda related. “
You’d think that part is clear enough. Yet you are upvoted and I am downvoted. The internet speaks
Well, I'm certainly guilty of not reading the article. You got an upvote from me though.
I should stop browsing and posting last thing at night after having a couple of beers.
But that’s when the good shit comes out.
No, but it establishes how useful a tool a Twitter you control is to crushing dissent. Which explains why they helped Musk buy it - as bad as Twitter’s previous management may have been, they at least tried to appear honorable. Musk is really leaning into the authoritarian bootlicker thing, so I’m sure he’s eager to get Tesla programmers in there to find new ways to hunt down dissidents.
The statement is still true, though? They got value out of it previously so they would be happy to float money to Elon to keep it useful for them.
Would you all read the fucking article? Yes, Elon sucks and is tanking Twitter, but all this is from stuff that happened in 2015, long before he bought Twitter.
They're still putting people to death because of tweets.
Not clear its because of the Tweet
Maybe that’s why the title says Twitter and not Elon…
Yet all of the comments at the time I made my OP were going on about Elon like he did this.
it's almost like the Saudis fucking funded a huge portion of the funds phony stark used to buy twit. How about you stop cherry picking?
And this should stop us from talking about this?
No. Look at all the comments though. Everyone is blaming Musk for it when the lawsuit is actually about the company before he bought it.
cry more, the saudis funded the fuck out of elon's purchase.
How is pointing out that the article doesn't have anything to do with what people think it does "crying"?
You might want to try reading comprehension more.
Don't make us read!
Never, it's my greatest fear on the entire internet.
EM used Saudi money to buy the shithole and you think they won't want something in return?
They certainly don't expect to be paid in profits...
The lawsuit is against Jack Dorsey.
You're ruining the circlejerk >:(
So they're no longer involved?
Fuck Twitter for doing that, but how about we also keep Saudis responsible for the crimes they're committing? just saying
They're a sovereign nation. What are we gonna do, launch a military invasion? And it's not like sanctions are a realistic solution, either; the west is far more dependent on Saudi oil than the Saudis are on western money. The world is chock full of other customers that will be more than happy to step up.
Yes, pretty much everything the Saudis do is abhorrent, but unless you're suggesting that the answer to their crimes is to commit even worse crimes against them, you're just flailing around spouting off impotent virtue signals.
Just like in any other country, the only legitimate way to solve the problem of govenment corruption and oppression is for the people of that country to force a regime change.
I don't understand the downvotes. I do not concur with the end for a lot of reasons, but this is a legitimate answer to the comment before
white people love telling people in 3rd world countries living under oppressive governments to "just start a revolution"
Would you rather go back to white people invading third world countries? That's the alternative. I sure don't want that, you're a shitty person if you do.
OH so it's totally cool for America to resume playing world police? literally cannot fucking win lmao
how naive can you get?
They could point at our death penalty also
Just for you guys to know, a Saudi teacher got death sentence over tweets, reported form last week.
And Kashoggi got baited and chopped to bits by the Saudis over financing opposing voices on Twitter.
It looks like he posted under his own name and was arrested last year. Guess they are getting nervous about their rule there.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/middleeast/saudi-arabia-retired-teacher-death-sentence-intl/index.html
X plans to collect biometric information, job, education history for safety, security, and identification purposes.
Elon did not get any lesson from the Saudi man's death at all. Its so important for people to remain anonymous in the digital world.
Try this: http://wiremin.org/
I've been using Mastodon for over a year with no trouble and digging it. The best part is no ads or algorithm bs
Elon buying Twitter in the first place (with plans to openly destroy it) was helping them commit rights abuses in the first place - Twitter was a critical communications/organization tool during the Arab Spring, musk's job was in part to make sure that it wasn't sustainable for that purpose in the future, and it now isn't.
This has been the main thing all along.
This is pre-xitter
So, would that be pronounced "Shitter"?
Seems apt.
I think the same but for many political happenings.
But now they have the fediverse which is arguably a lot better than some corporate proprietary crap that censors anything revolutionary
but it has a very limited audience, and that probably won't change any time soon
True. I imagine in a few years there will at least be a few million spread across the whole fediverse.
At this point, it wouldn't be anywhere near surprising if any of the major social media giants from any country were aiding human rights abuses in any country.
I guess their investment in Elon paid off.
Retroactively, in 2015?
See my link elsewhere in the thread. This hasn't stopped.
From your article, its not clear the Tweets causted
The cost of non-private social media
Muskrat has to pay back them loans somehow.
This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
I stand by what I said.
This is why personal privacy & nyms are important. We need to leave those platforms that collect our identity info, there is no privacy at all!
Twitter is not the right place for free speech, It's so hilarious that Elon says, 'Twitter is for free speech!
This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
I stopped using Twitter when Musk took over. I kept my account for a while but recently I logged in, saw a bunch of alt-right transphobia and racism, and then deleted my account.
I deleted mine the day he took over.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The new legal filing comes days after Human Rights Watch condemned a Saudi court for sentencing a man to death based solely on his Twitter and YouTube activity, which it called an “escalation” of the government’s crackdown on freedom of expression.
After Abouammo resigned in May 2015, he continued to contact Twitter to field requests he was receiving from Bader al-Asaker, a senior aide of Mohammed bin Salman, for the identity of confidential users.
The lawsuit also alleges that Twitter had “ample notice” of security risks to internal personal data, and that there was a threat of insiders illegally accessing it, based on public reporting at the time.
Between July and December 2015, Twitter granted the kingdom information requests “significantly more often” than most other countries at that time, including Canada, the UK, Australia, and Spain, the lawsuit alleges.
Twitter would later notify users who had been exposed, telling them their data “may” have been targeted, but did not provide more specific information about the scale or certainty that the breach had, in fact, occurred.
Dorsey met with bin Salman about six months after the company was made aware of the issue by the FBI, and the two discussed how to “train and qualify Saudi cadres”.
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Very disgusting of the website.
I remember during the Arab Spring when everyone was saying how great twitter was and how it was fueling the revolts
Which is exactly why Musk and the Saudis bought it. To make sure that wouldn't happen again.
Typical Musk Monday
This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
No difference
Not exactly something you can blame him for though.
Nah but fuck him still.
That took much less time than I expected.
Yeah, only 9 years to get caught and brought public.
This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
Yes, from when the "spies" were found working there. The accusation that Twitter had knowledge of what they were doing wasn't originally part of the case. The suit was only filed just over a year ago, and now Twitter has officially been added.
Why am I not suprised
FUCK MUSK AND FUCK SPEZ
This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
AND ZUCK
twitter is still a platform for cunts. End of story.
Free speech absolutist, but only when it's straight up harmful.
Its about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon
One more point to the fediverse.
Since when did Twitter become a platform for sending death sentences? Isn't there a better alternative?
how is this news?? everyone knows twitter is now partially owned by the saudis specifically for the purpose of its dismantlement. elon gets to have his fun shitting on liberals, trying all the fever dream-business-nonsense he either knows wont work or people have never let him do before.. because he doesnt care! the goal is its demise, and the saudis financed it.
This is from Twitter 2014 and 2015
You mean X?
No, Twitter in 2014 and 2015