A whole lot of what the right gets uppity about is none of falls strictly in the 'none of their fucking business' category
A common dog whistle for the right is individual rights and freedoms... Yet they get hung up on things like trans rights which are checks notes individual rights and freedoms
Yeah, but you forget about their individual right and freedom not to feel offended.
More like their right and freedom to feel superior to others by invalidating them.
I wish it was only invalidating. This is actively kicking them down.
*Their individual right and freedom to infringe upon other people's rights without consequences.
Love to see it. Not shocked, though.
For an opposite example, the creator of a niche programming language that is the only one I'm interested in (it's really great, and I haven't seen anything that comes close to fitting the same place) said something at-very-least stupid which was the final straw that caused a core developer (nearly co-creator? created the package manager+installer, wrote a book) to quit. And it already had a low bus-factor.
Can't say that without spilling the deets. What language?
Wouldn't have been difficult to sleuth using my profile here, but Nim-lang. Specifically because it's basically an all-in-one, being easy and fast+capable+flexible. Maybe not enough to go by (and I didn't finish/release it), but some code that I actually wrote (+what it's loading)
For further context on the statement by the creator, it was complaining about the "grammar" of singular they. Aside from that being an obvious culture-war BS dogwhistle, the person who quit knew them closely so I don't think it was an overreaction or misunderstanding.
I've seen Nim before. It looks interesting, and I like the promise of a no-nonsense, performant language. I'm comfortable over here in dotnet land though. 😄
dotnet, go, and rust seem like the most promising languages at the moment.
Singular they has been used for something like 7 centuries.
Yes, that's why I said it was at-least stupid. It isn't even an uncommon thing in modern usage. We can accept it without it being a political thing, and it matters even less in an online community.
Which language?
I remember having a conversation with my conservative boss. He said something stupid about not understanding pronouns and the look on his face when I told him it didn't matter because the pronouns aren't for him. If he can't take a few minutes to understand why someone uses a specific pronoun, it's better that he just excuses himself from it. He just couldn't understand why I would exclude him in that way. Like fuck you dude, you bring it up, get upset when you can't understand and then think it's all about you. Fuck off.
Would be better if you just started calling him she, they or it. You would probably be fired, but he would get the message. mostly wouldn't you never know with them people
They'd be fired, and he wouldn't have got the message. I'm 100% confident on this one
The boss doesn't need to get the message. How it works isn't complicated and I don't believe that anyone just can't understand it. That's not the issue and never has been.
They just hate trans people.
Bingo. The message isn't for the boss. It's for my coworkers who might be hiding their identity because of that boss to know they have someone in their corner.
Torvalds isn't always right, but he's wrong much less often than not.
*in Dread Pirate Roberts voice*
You have a dizzying intellect.
I knew there was a reason besides Linux that made me love Linus.
What a fuckin legend
Beautiful
This is pure gold
Nicely done, very based indeed.
Bea-fucking-utifully said.
I already had a huge respect for him for being really pragmatic, but after this post my respect for him climbed a level above I thought wasn't even possible.
And that's without considering the guy basically made software that runs >99% of modern internet.
In another life, I delivered a package to Linus and he answered the door in a bathrobe at 1:30 in the afternoon, just got out of the shower. Nice guy.
Isn't this the "woke communist" that runs his company in a shitty way? Overworks employees and stuff? I'm not familiar with the drama is just weird not seeing anything about that in the comments
Different Linus. This Linus made Linux, he's not the one who does tech tips.
I was OOT on this until you clarified it. On the phone as well so that didn't help either. I was probably going to get there but you definitely saved me about half a tank.
Oh cool, I think I've always just assumed Torvalds was LTT's last name bc I didn't know they were different people lol
ltt linus's last name is Sebastian
Even though wrong Linus (Torvalds is the Linus who made Linux) I'm glad someone brought that up. Last time I saw LTT he was cozying up with nazis. Last time I heard about him he was being a PR-washing ultralib. He's been beloved among reactionaries every step of the way.
This is pretty much my stance.
A whole lot of what the right gets uppity about is none of falls strictly in the 'none of their fucking business' category
A common dog whistle for the right is individual rights and freedoms... Yet they get hung up on things like trans rights which are checks notes individual rights and freedoms
Yeah, but you forget about their individual right and freedom not to feel offended.
More like their right and freedom to feel superior to others by invalidating them.
I wish it was only invalidating. This is actively kicking them down.
*Their individual right and freedom to infringe upon other people's rights without consequences.
Love to see it. Not shocked, though.
For an opposite example, the creator of a niche programming language that is the only one I'm interested in (it's really great, and I haven't seen anything that comes close to fitting the same place) said something at-very-least stupid which was the final straw that caused a core developer (nearly co-creator? created the package manager+installer, wrote a book) to quit. And it already had a low bus-factor.
Can't say that without spilling the deets. What language?
Wouldn't have been difficult to sleuth using my profile here, but Nim-lang. Specifically because it's basically an all-in-one, being easy and fast+capable+flexible. Maybe not enough to go by (and I didn't finish/release it), but some code that I actually wrote (+what it's loading)
For further context on the statement by the creator, it was complaining about the "grammar" of singular they. Aside from that being an obvious culture-war BS dogwhistle, the person who quit knew them closely so I don't think it was an overreaction or misunderstanding.
@Serdan
Oh, damn. Why do assholes gotta ruin everything?
I've seen Nim before. It looks interesting, and I like the promise of a no-nonsense, performant language. I'm comfortable over here in dotnet land though. 😄
dotnet, go, and rust seem like the most promising languages at the moment.
Singular they has been used for something like 7 centuries.
Yes, that's why I said it was at-least stupid. It isn't even an uncommon thing in modern usage. We can accept it without it being a political thing, and it matters even less in an online community.
Which language?
I remember having a conversation with my conservative boss. He said something stupid about not understanding pronouns and the look on his face when I told him it didn't matter because the pronouns aren't for him. If he can't take a few minutes to understand why someone uses a specific pronoun, it's better that he just excuses himself from it. He just couldn't understand why I would exclude him in that way. Like fuck you dude, you bring it up, get upset when you can't understand and then think it's all about you. Fuck off.
Would be better if you just started calling him she, they or it. You would probably be fired, but he would get the message. mostly wouldn't you never know with them people
They'd be fired, and he wouldn't have got the message. I'm 100% confident on this one
The boss doesn't need to get the message. How it works isn't complicated and I don't believe that anyone just can't understand it. That's not the issue and never has been.
They just hate trans people.
Bingo. The message isn't for the boss. It's for my coworkers who might be hiding their identity because of that boss to know they have someone in their corner.
I want to see Linus and Stallman fight
Who does that help?
Edit: Yes, I see.
Edit 2: Ah jeez.
Stallman being punched help anyone
I'm out of the loop. I know he's seen as cantankerous but did he say or do something actually bad?
I only know about this: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/09/richard-stallman-leaves-mit-after-controversial-remarks-on-rape/
Also check the comment about defensive plants used against Stallman.
Ah hell. Yeah he should probably get decked.
He has cancer
Ah jeez.
Did he ever say or do something that wasn’t? He is the biggest of dicks, misogynistic asshole who verbally advocated pedophilia.
huh... i have no idea who that other person is but linus being this based is nice
Best Linus.
If you're wondering how to follow him: https://social.kernel.org/torvalds
@torvalds@social.kernel.org
this implies torvalds is a community on social.kernel.org.
person mentions have @ not ! (also you can't follow people on lemmy yet)
I was just testing if it will work, Would be cool if I can follow him like a community and interact with his posts
Torvalds isn't always right, but he's wrong much less often than not.
*in Dread Pirate Roberts voice*
You have a dizzying intellect.
I knew there was a reason besides Linux that made me love Linus.
What a fuckin legend
Beautiful
This is pure gold
Nicely done, very based indeed.
Bea-fucking-utifully said.
I already had a huge respect for him for being really pragmatic, but after this post my respect for him climbed a level above I thought wasn't even possible.
And that's without considering the guy basically made software that runs >99% of modern internet.
I need to be able to upvote more than once!
Hey I was one of those boosts!
DAMN
In another life, I delivered a package to Linus and he answered the door in a bathrobe at 1:30 in the afternoon, just got out of the shower. Nice guy.
Isn't this the "woke communist" that runs his company in a shitty way? Overworks employees and stuff? I'm not familiar with the drama is just weird not seeing anything about that in the comments
Different Linus. This Linus made Linux, he's not the one who does tech tips.
I was OOT on this until you clarified it. On the phone as well so that didn't help either. I was probably going to get there but you definitely saved me about half a tank.
Oh cool, I think I've always just assumed Torvalds was LTT's last name bc I didn't know they were different people lol
ltt linus's last name is Sebastian
Even though wrong Linus (Torvalds is the Linus who made Linux) I'm glad someone brought that up. Last time I saw LTT he was cozying up with nazis. Last time I heard about him he was being a PR-washing ultralib. He's been beloved among reactionaries every step of the way.