Trump Says He WANTS the Economy to Crash Because It Will Hurt Biden

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Trump Says He WANTS the Economy to Crash Because It Will Hurt Biden
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I can't wait to read Trump's obituary.

He'll surely have to be buried somewhere with a lot of security unless his family is ok with all the piss and shit that will be covering his grave.

I doubt anyone in his family gives a shit what happens to a dead body that can do nothing for them.

Actually, that gives me an idea. Maybe they'll keep someone posted to charge people to shit/piss on his grave. That way the dead body IS doing something for them.

Maybe all the maga idiots will take it upon themselves to stand guard with all their guns. That'd be great.

Honestly, just graverob that motherfucker and desecrate the corpse as thoroughly as possible. He richly deserves it.

How has he not died yet? He gets barely any exercise and lives on McDonald's and KFC.

He was president. He has better access to healthcare than 90% of us. I hate to say it but we're probably stuck with him for at least another decade.

The good news is though that maybe he'll actually get to rot in a cell for a while before he goes instead of skipping prison time by checking out.

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I'm not, the idiots will deify him like Augustus.

They already do. The important difference between then and now is he won't be around to keep making up nonsense.

Yes, then it will be a whole new horrible person to deal with or an already horrible person that is around that will become more powerful.

Or they'll split among horrible people with MAGA Group A fighting against MAGA groups B, C, and D. Their political relevance would wane, but they might get even more violent.

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I guarantee he is telling congressional Republicans to shut down the government so the economy takes a hit.

He doesn't have to tell them they already try to do it every chance they get when a Democrat is the president. They sabotage the government unless they are fully in charge.

Thank goodness Biden is the only person who would be hurt. No biggie.

“We have an economy that is incredible,” he went on to say, reflective of last year’s strong labor market gains. “We have an economy that is so fragile. And the only reason it’s running now is it’s running off the fumes of what we did—what the Trump administration did. It’s just running off the fumes.”

***“And when there’s a crash, I hope it’s going to be during these next twelve months, because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover,”*** he continued, referring to the president when the Great Depression hit in 1929. “The one president—I just don’t want to be Herbert Hoover.”

I think the reason he provides seems stranger than merely wishing for the economy to crash because it might improve his chances of being re-elected.

he wants to be written into history as a "good president" or whatever. i don't think that's possible.

I long for the day "Trump says" is no longer newsworthy.

I long for the day when someone mentions Trump and I respond: "Oh yeah. That guy. Last I heard he was sent to prison. That was years ago. Anyway, changes subject away from Trump..."

My only affect towards Trump right now is not caring and if he went to prison it probably wouldn't register emotionally in any way. It's like I'm already bored of him going to prison before it happens. The internet has memed every lame "Trump in prison" joke into the ground for years, and the idea of him going to prison has been kept on edge since 2016. There's nothing to say about Trump that hasn't been said and no joke about him that hasn't been overdone to the point it's cringe. Every "make fun of Trump" post is the exact same thing for years, and when I see a pic of Trump my brain basically treats it like it's an advertisement or spam.

It's a good thing then that justice doesn't depend on the entertainment value of someone breaking the law.

It's more like how Trump being in jail or not won't affect the overall political situation in the US. It's like the years of fixating on a potential mugshot of Trump as some magic spell that will finally break his support, they'd finally see him as the criminal he is and poof no more Trump. Then it finally happened and here we are.

I like the phrase "Lou Dobbs on Lindell TV" I wish people this far out of the mainstream on the left had as much influence as these gas pump tv level right-wing guys do.

“We have an economy that is incredible,” he went on to say, reflective of last year’s strong labor market gains. “We have an economy that is so fragile. And the only reason it’s running now is it’s running off the fumes of what we did—what the Trump administration did. It’s just running off the fumes.”

“And when there’s a crash, I hope it’s going to be during these next twelve months, because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover,” he continued, referring to the president when the Great Depression hit in 1929. “The one president—I just don’t want to be Herbert Hoover.”

i hate donald trump, but i think i hate clickbait headlines which distort what was being said even more. it's a problem that i don't see an end to.

It's still 80% accurate. He's still saying he hopes for a collapse for the sake of his legacy to somehow prove himself a hero and preserve a legacy.

he's saying that there will be a collapse and that it won't be his fault and that he hopes it happens before he becomes president because it would make him look bad. I think he's obviously full of shit, but the headlines should at least not misrepresent what he's saying. it's bad journalism and it's harmful. it's fuel for Trump supporters who want to think that the other side are idiots and that the news is corrupt.

80% is pretty generous considering nowhere in the quote does he wants a crash, he's just predicting one and hopes the timing is good for his legacy.

And considering the title is claiming he is saying he "wants" it to crash, it's categorically false.

Trump is trash, but we shouldn't be defending trash headlines like this.

Thank you. I came here to say the same thing. He isn't saying "I want the economy to crash" he's saying "the economy is going to crash and I hope it happens before I become President again because it would be nice if Biden looked bad instead of me".

He's an asshole and a grifter. If truly believes that an economic crash is inevitable, though, I can fully understand why he would hope that it will crash during the current term rather than the next term.

That's the sign of a real leader who cares about his country before himself

Dude's subtle as a heart attack, but it isn't exactly news that market downturns pair well with incumbents losing their jobs.

I'm sure he's also hoping and praying for a big hurricane, a new wave of police-protests, another big supply shock to grocery stories, and maybe a pandemic or two to round things out. But when he's got substantially less control over that shit now than he did four years ago, its a moot point.

Biden will keep the bubble economy inflated until after November. The police have been comically overstuffed to discourage any kind of public protests. We're simply not going to cover the COVID spike, so you can all just fuck off and die in obscurity. And if he does half as well as Obama did after Hurricane Sandy, a big storm will do him more good than harm. Particularly if it fucks over Texas or Florida, forcing those governors to come to him hat-in-hand like Christie did back in '14.

What Trump really needs to bank on is that the GOP establishment in the swing red states back him like Jeb backed George in '00. And that's going to be a harder sell in '24, simply because so many of those same governors are going to be resentful of him in the wake of the primaries.

Headline is actually, "wants Americans to fail, starve and die so they are more desperate/vulnerable, to his benefit"

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I want the economy to crash because a good economy doesn't even help the average person. Only the rich corporate elites. And I want them to burn.

We are not the same.

Is The Daily Beast a good source? I haven’t read the article, of course.

It's literally a video of him saying in an interview that he hopes the economy crashes in the next 12 months.

Doesn't look like he'll get his wish, thankfully.

Just imagine how bad the economy would be right now if we had re-elected Trump.

I mean hopefully, but working in shipping and seeing the lack of volume in things outside of necessities, I'm concerned.

I'm in wholesale to retail and it's WAY worse this year than it's ever been in my 25 years. Most of my customers restock my merchandise once a month at minimum, many several times a month. Huge pricing resistance although my prices have been stable for years. This year it's been about every 2-3 months. And my freight is through the fucking roof with most markets quadruple what they've always been.

Are you not paying attention? Homeless just hit record highs, credit card usage for basic necessities is through the roof, food banks are seeing record turnout for distribution, wages still stagnant, people can't afford housing. These things will not get fixed in a few months.

I'd say inflation is to blame, but it's really just greedy corporations who figured out that they can get more out of us and claim hardship due to inflation when we complain about it. Record profits year over year for corporations, but zero dollars of that value is passed to the consumer. Unemployment is at record lows, but people are still struggling to get by because wage growth has been stagnant for two decades.

I'm worried that things are so out of control that nobody will be able to right the ship anymore, but I certainly don't want the guy who hopes things will get worse in the next 12 months to be the one America trusts to handle it.

Then the clear choice for everyone is refuse to vote for a democrat or a republican.

I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion from my post. Like, at all. The clear choice is to vote for the only party that is actively trying to do something, rather than the party that is banking on the problem getting worse.

That's my solution. Red or blue the quality of our lives do not get better. 50 years of this 'lesser evil' has not produced lesser evil

Except our lives have gotten better over the past 50 years. Measurably. Usually under democratic leadership. The "lesser of two evils" strategy only works when it successfully keeps the greater evil out of office, and America has the memory of a goldfish when it comes to voting and keep putting the worst possible candidates into office at the most critical times.

Not sure why you are on the politics community advocating for non-voting, anyway.

Except our lives have gotten better

Has it? Income inequality is higher than it's ever been. 65%, and rising, live paycheck to paycheck, homelessness just hit a record high, the largest and fastest growing segment of the homeless are the elderly, food banks are seeing record turnout with numbers exceeding COVID lockdowns. The mortality rate between the wealthy and poor is 14 years. Things are not better. The only difference is if a republican were in office right now democrats would be able to see how bad it is. But they have their blinders on until the next republican president, then you hand those blinders over to Republican voters who won't see how bad things are.

Where did I say not to vote, I said quit voting for the duopoly who only acts in the interests of the donor class.

Holy shit I work with helping underresourced people and shit is bad. It's hitting at least half the population. The homelessness is out of control and the cost of basic needs far exceeds wages. You need like five incomes per household or just be a rich asshole.

That's what's frustrating as fuck with the types that deny the facts and keep repeating the bullshit that things are good. I know several people that are struggling themselves and keep repeating that things are good because of what they keep getting told.

The daily beast is hard to read on the best of days but they do usually link to whatever they are opining on.

Metric ton of salt grains but I feel like they can help some stories the right may prefer to ignore that are important into their awareness at least.

Can't speak to the credibillity but if they link to stuff you should be able to decide for yourself

I’m not sure. Every time I click one they have those stupid tags in red at the top. They look like they’re a click bait / sensationalist tabloid.

They're a left-biased, instant news publication. They operate off of the 24h news cycle.

To be clear, I would much rather read a left-biased news publication than a right-biased one, because one side has invented reality wholecloth, while the other still (generally) believes facts in context speak for themselves.

But if you're trying to be a thoughtful and rational person, I wouldn't exclusively read their articles, and when I do, I'd look for the overarching points and try to avoid getting bogged down in the rhetoric.