I don't understand owning a computer that you don't fully control but using prosthetics that can be remotely disabled? This is why we need true open source GPL brain implants.
This isn’t a prosthetic that was remotely disabled, this is failing hardware that doesn’t have support from the original company which is in the process of going bankrupt.
I get where you’re coming from, and agree. Prosthesis and health devices should absolutely not be remotely controllable by a company. But you can’t really help a company shutting down.
And I highly doubt there are any open source implants which help sure blindness that are ready for prime time.
But still, if the technology is open, then someone may design some compatible replacement hardware. Imagine some makers community rig a replacement for the blind without carrying about profitability.
That’s one aspect, absolutely.
The other side of that coin though, is if you really want random people tinkering with things directly attached to your body, without having a proper way to test beforehand?
These types of devices need to go through testing before they reach human trials for a reason. While I’m happy to trust security of data and even control of my while home to FOSS communities, I honestly don’t know that I’d trust anonymous individuals online with no skin in the game with my literal body.
Yeah, that's a legitimate concern, but letting this technology die along with a dying company is a waste. Imagine it getting brought by some patent trolls who wouldn't do anything with it.
I'm daily driving Linux. And, frankly, for my eye implant, I'll probably buy from apple.
I mean, no, I will buy something else, jailbreak foss it, will have to patch it while being blind from an update, and proudly tell everyone no friggin government will be able to backdoor my eye. But oh boy I'll wish I bought one from apple, cuz those guys never go blind from updates.
Or when you do go blind the ceo will just say you are holding your iEye in the wrong spot.
Yeah, like this is technology I've wanted since I was a kid, the stuff I wish people were talking about when they say VR, instead of screens you wear on your head and motion-detection controllers. Video games are a lot better when they are dynamic and current VR tech can't really do that yet.
But that said, I'll die never experiencing that before trusting anything Elon Musk is involved with.
What happens if your brain implant is like a phone, and stops getting updates after 2 or so years? That'd suck really bad.
Then I'm jailbreaking my brain implant and installing Linux on it
The bootloaders gonna be locked.
It can only stay locked for so long
You gonna open up your brain to flash the ROM?
Probably get a unit w/o having it implanted, modify it, then get it installed unofficially. (Don't ask who or where, because that won't be shared publicly, as it will almost certainly be illegal).
Careful not to brick your brain implant.
Can it run Doom?
That's all it runs.
What if it's FOSS
Then it wouldn't be absolutely proprietary
Holy smokes it wouldn't be??
I know shocking
Why in the actual hell are we allowing Elon Musk of all people to put chips in people's brains?
People are fucking morons
There is no we. This country is run by capitalist sociopaths.
C.R.E.A.M.
Dolla Dolla bill y'all
I'ma tell you, like Wu told me
Was there not some issues with the animal trials last year or am I misremembering?
Nah, your implant should have deleted any record of that happening.
Oh, and don’t worry about calling your lawyer about medical malpractice or anything; after all, we’ve disabled your speech center.
As in they all had to be euthanized in a very short amount of time, or something like that?
Didn't the animal tests lead to pretty bad deaths? And wasn't that less than a year ago? I can't imagine this going well.
Plus there was the blind-tech that was revealed not too long ago where now that they're bankrupt the group is slowly going blind and worse. I feel like none of this is going to end well.
Lots of them, yes.
That poor bastard.
Poor is probably what led to it
In Elon’s eyes he’s still testing on animals.
...Which he is.
(insert Cave Johnson quote here)
Can't wait to have a stroke because someone put a cryptomining virus on my brainchip.
playing Cyberpunk these days and there's a lot of that
God speed, guinea pig.
at least the billionaire sub moron believed in his product enough to go down with it.
does this coward have the guts to use his own crap?
If he hasn't gotten an implant when it moves beyond solving medical problems to being a consumer device that an everyday person would be able to buy, that'd be really telling.
But until then that's not how it works. They need approval to do trials on very specific things, such as working with quadriplegics.
We're probably decades away from non trials for only medical purposes.
Pump the stocks with buzzwords!
Mark of the least
Oh you
Oh, that's why he's been behaving this way.
Well if musk said it...
I don't believe it.
I hope he himself has it in him. Based on his progressing psychosis it is in his head for some time now.
Watch. It will end up being Alec Baldwin.
Elon Musk saw the shitter episode of South Park, and was inspired by it. He hatched a plan. He needed a company working on brain computer interface technology, and Twitter to get renamed shitter. Nuerolink was easy to find, but Shitter was troublesome. He bought twitter, then in what only could be called by Elon Musk some sort of brilliance, thought he could tank the sites reputation so hard and give it a stupid brand that people would roll their eyes and switch to calling it "shitter."
Once that had taken place, he would be able to develop the technology, and finally release a platform that gave anyone the ability to publicly broadcast all their thoughts without a filter. And he would be loved for it
Oh you're wearing one of those neuralinks. Dont try any of that mind control on me.
😁 I'm so looking forward to use this quote in real life.
Why does clicking on this link bring up Google Play lol wtf
Cyberpunk incoming
I want this but with the capability of uploading fake memories. Like in the Arnold Chachanege where he gets fake memories. But without all the violence. I just wanna feel like a million bucks every day. Maybe I'll remember how I made sweet sweet love the night before or something awesome like that.
How'd you like the woman in the red dress?
What woman in the red dress...all I see is blondes and brunettes...
Look again.
Wait, I'm gonna learn kung fu? Can I also watch endless porn? I rather do that actually.
How far is it from giving vision to blind people to making memories?
At the very least being able to send a video and have the brain understand it is at least a first step?
We'll get there one day. I'll recruit them some "volunteers" if they need!
....oh Mr Santos, it's a really cool implant, you should really try it.
Musk wants to turn the planet into the same mindless drone he is himself.
I don't care who makes it I'm not putting absolutely proprietary software in my brain
What's the worst that could happen?
Oh
I don't understand owning a computer that you don't fully control but using prosthetics that can be remotely disabled? This is why we need true open source GPL brain implants.
This isn’t a prosthetic that was remotely disabled, this is failing hardware that doesn’t have support from the original company which is in the process of going bankrupt.
I get where you’re coming from, and agree. Prosthesis and health devices should absolutely not be remotely controllable by a company. But you can’t really help a company shutting down.
And I highly doubt there are any open source implants which help sure blindness that are ready for prime time.
But still, if the technology is open, then someone may design some compatible replacement hardware. Imagine some makers community rig a replacement for the blind without carrying about profitability.
That’s one aspect, absolutely.
The other side of that coin though, is if you really want random people tinkering with things directly attached to your body, without having a proper way to test beforehand?
These types of devices need to go through testing before they reach human trials for a reason. While I’m happy to trust security of data and even control of my while home to FOSS communities, I honestly don’t know that I’d trust anonymous individuals online with no skin in the game with my literal body.
Yeah, that's a legitimate concern, but letting this technology die along with a dying company is a waste. Imagine it getting brought by some patent trolls who wouldn't do anything with it.
I'm daily driving Linux. And, frankly, for my eye implant, I'll probably buy from apple.
I mean, no, I will buy something else, jailbreak foss it, will have to patch it while being blind from an update, and proudly tell everyone no friggin government will be able to backdoor my eye. But oh boy I'll wish I bought one from apple, cuz those guys never go blind from updates.
Or when you do go blind the ceo will just say you are holding your iEye in the wrong spot.
iBall
Aye-aye
Aye aye captain
Yeah, like this is technology I've wanted since I was a kid, the stuff I wish people were talking about when they say VR, instead of screens you wear on your head and motion-detection controllers. Video games are a lot better when they are dynamic and current VR tech can't really do that yet.
But that said, I'll die never experiencing that before trusting anything Elon Musk is involved with.
What happens if your brain implant is like a phone, and stops getting updates after 2 or so years? That'd suck really bad.
Then I'm jailbreaking my brain implant and installing Linux on it
The bootloaders gonna be locked.
It can only stay locked for so long
You gonna open up your brain to flash the ROM?
Probably get a unit w/o having it implanted, modify it, then get it installed unofficially. (Don't ask who or where, because that won't be shared publicly, as it will almost certainly be illegal).
Careful not to brick your brain implant.
Can it run Doom?
That's all it runs.
What if it's FOSS
Then it wouldn't be absolutely proprietary
Holy smokes it wouldn't be??
I know shocking
Why in the actual hell are we allowing Elon Musk of all people to put chips in people's brains?
People are fucking morons
There is no we. This country is run by capitalist sociopaths.
C.R.E.A.M.
Dolla Dolla bill y'all
I'ma tell you, like Wu told me
Was there not some issues with the animal trials last year or am I misremembering?
Nah, your implant should have deleted any record of that happening.
Oh, and don’t worry about calling your lawyer about medical malpractice or anything; after all, we’ve disabled your speech center.
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/
As in they all had to be euthanized in a very short amount of time, or something like that?
Didn't the animal tests lead to pretty bad deaths? And wasn't that less than a year ago? I can't imagine this going well.
Plus there was the blind-tech that was revealed not too long ago where now that they're bankrupt the group is slowly going blind and worse. I feel like none of this is going to end well.
Lots of them, yes.
That poor bastard.
Poor is probably what led to it
In Elon’s eyes he’s still testing on animals.
...Which he is.
(insert Cave Johnson quote here)
Can't wait to have a stroke because someone put a cryptomining virus on my brainchip.
playing Cyberpunk these days and there's a lot of that
God speed, guinea pig.
at least the billionaire sub moron believed in his product enough to go down with it.
does this coward have the guts to use his own crap?
If he hasn't gotten an implant when it moves beyond solving medical problems to being a consumer device that an everyday person would be able to buy, that'd be really telling.
But until then that's not how it works. They need approval to do trials on very specific things, such as working with quadriplegics.
We're probably decades away from non trials for only medical purposes.
Pump the stocks with buzzwords!
Mark of the least
Oh you
Oh, that's why he's been behaving this way.
Well if musk said it...
I don't believe it.
I hope he himself has it in him. Based on his progressing psychosis it is in his head for some time now.
Watch. It will end up being Alec Baldwin.
Elon Musk saw the shitter episode of South Park, and was inspired by it. He hatched a plan. He needed a company working on brain computer interface technology, and Twitter to get renamed shitter. Nuerolink was easy to find, but Shitter was troublesome. He bought twitter, then in what only could be called by Elon Musk some sort of brilliance, thought he could tank the sites reputation so hard and give it a stupid brand that people would roll their eyes and switch to calling it "shitter."
Once that had taken place, he would be able to develop the technology, and finally release a platform that gave anyone the ability to publicly broadcast all their thoughts without a filter. And he would be loved for it
😁 I'm so looking forward to use this quote in real life.
Why does clicking on this link bring up Google Play lol wtf
Cyberpunk incoming
I want this but with the capability of uploading fake memories. Like in the Arnold Chachanege where he gets fake memories. But without all the violence. I just wanna feel like a million bucks every day. Maybe I'll remember how I made sweet sweet love the night before or something awesome like that.
How'd you like the woman in the red dress?
What woman in the red dress...all I see is blondes and brunettes...
Look again.
Wait, I'm gonna learn kung fu? Can I also watch endless porn? I rather do that actually.
How far is it from giving vision to blind people to making memories?
At the very least being able to send a video and have the brain understand it is at least a first step?
We'll get there one day. I'll recruit them some "volunteers" if they need!
....oh Mr Santos, it's a really cool implant, you should really try it.
Musk wants to turn the planet into the same mindless drone he is himself.