so you’re saying lemmy doesn’t have this problem? 🤦♀️
No bitch, that's a whole new sentence
When I read your username, I somehow get reminded of someones bathroom floor.
Sponge and plunger together
Go back to reddit then 😡
literally any social media real life
Anyone to the left of the DNC leadership: constructively criticizes Joe Biden
Biden stans: You love Trump, don't you?
On the other side of this, what I find really common is anyone who acknowledges the reality of how the US voting structure works is seen as a Biden Stan
"Hey maybe we should just elect the most popular candidate instead of potentially not electing the most popular candidate"
"HAHA LOOK AT THE LIBTARD"
First of all: least unpopular. Neither of them are very popular and most people would prefer that neither of them were amongst the two options.
Second, valid criticism ≠ voting against, not voting or telling anyone to do either.
Nothing wrong about acknowledging the reality of the system being a broken dichotomy, of course.
I'm talking about the people who shut down all valid criticism with the "but Trump is worse" whataboutism or "stop giving Trump ammunition" as if anyone sane didn't already know Trump is awful and as if the Mango Mussolini wouldn't just make shit up regardless..
That's completely fair critism is a healthy part of democracy.
If you think voting the DNC will fix anything YOU don't understand how the US voting structure works
I don't think that.
What do YOU think will work?
Eating won't fix cancer, so don't bother.
My guy: sometimes you do things to prevent new problems. Making nothing better still beats making everything worse.
That's because it's a common argument of Biden stans. It's pretty telling that they can't think of anything good to say about their candidate, so instead it's this stuff.
There's a lot of good and bad.
Bad -
Supporting Israel financially, forcing the rail workers back to work from their strike, his environmental policies seem half hearted.
Good -
Forgiving large amounts of student loan debt, having his cabinet work with the DEA at reclassifing weed while promoting the idea publically, putting billions into Urban reconstruction to help cities become less dependent on roads and more accessible for the least fortunate.
It's more nuanced than he's great or awful. He's just better. As it often ends up coming to in American politics.
As an aside I long for multi choice voting.
Ok I’ve seen sources for the bad. Do you have sources for good that actually involve his intervention? I refer to the fact that the loan debt cancellations so far would have happened under any other administration. I ask what actual progress has the DEA undertaken if we are still having same discussion after four years. I refer to the “American Rescue Plan” being a literal extension of the “CARES Act” (So again not his plan). Please tell me what he has done that would not have been accomplished by a plank of wood?
No yeah that totally sounds like a healthy way to engage in debate.
Sign me up
Yeah, but people also have blinders as to how the actual voting structure works. If you're in CA/NY for dems or AL/MS for repubs, your vote basically doesn't matter since those places will go blue/red no matter what, so you're 100% free to vote for the person/platform you actually like! Any insinuation that you might vote for someone other than Biden is met with immediate scorn and ridicule.
Not to detail this but that is a new one for me. What is a Stan?
an incredibly obsessed fan, usually to an unhealthy degree, but often used ironically to just mean “big fan”. named after the character stan from the eminem song stan.
It's basically a synonym for simp.
"an overzealous or obsessive fan of a particular person or thing"
Sorry, but no. Lemmy is an echo chamber. If one server likes pancakes and another server likes waffles, they'll just defederate.
No this place is just full of bipolar virtue signaling fucks. A few weeks back a made a joke on a story about how a states new no permit open carry law. Said nothing about any group of people.
Some dude responded something to the effect of "why do you want women, gay people and black people to die?" This went on for quite a while. Him insisting that was my motivation, doubling down over and over.
And he was upvoted for this. Because...this is just how Lemmy operates.
uhm please do not use mental illness as an insult 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎sincerely not cool
Will happen in any social media. If you're neurodivergent, chances are it will happen to you offline as well. People are just really dumb.
Oh yes it can happen anywhere. But it is happening here much more than it happened to me on Reddit. Honestly at this point I'm really tempted to just give up all social media. I like having a website like this but... They all turn into toxic shit holes of one flavor or another in the end.
'So you think [some made-up bullshit]?' 'Fuck off.' And then a mod comes in and goes 'How dare you be rude to that smug liar.'
When the correct moderator action is often 'Yeah, fuck off.'
I like trains
OH SO YOU HATE AIRPLANES????
actually yes i love trains and hate airplanes at almost every facet of the comparison, thank you for noticing
Public transport woo hoo!
OH SO YOU THINK PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE PRIVATE TRANSPORTATION? You want to keep people imprisoned in their 15 minute cities? ^heavy ^/s
Me: maybe consider your ability to love a child as part of your “can I afford a child” criteria.
Reddit: so it doesn’t matter if we can’t even afford to feed ourselves because “all you need is love”?
Me: b1tch that’s a whole other sentence
i bet you are a beatles stan 😐😐 problematic
On the nose.
so you’re saying my other posts weren’t on the nose? 😧 geez ok ill try to do better
So you are saying you do like all waffles? Even blue ones??
I said someone's meme wasn't funny and was accused of hating the middle east
wow can’t believe you hate people of color and have no sense of humor, what a combo 🫤
Is it the only place if this same thing is posted on every social media platform in existence with the name of that platform edited in?
nah they fixed it on twitter tumblr and reddit in the latest patches it’s just lemmy now
Two days ago, I wouldn't have felt particularly strongly about this sentiment, but my last few comments yesterday had some interesting interpretations...
They do it on purpose.
What's wrong with having some purpose in your life? Jeezez some people are so judgemental. smh ffs asdf
You hate waffles and kittens? Wtflolcopter
I like pancakes
I like turtles.
So you hate puppies?
Who on earth could hate puppies? :'(
So you hate haters?
Sometimes
####WHY DO YOU HATE MASTODON?!?!
What does OP have against breakfast foods?
what do you have against lunch and dinner????
But why do you hate waffles?
Yeah, it’s gotten so bad that I don’t feel like posting here anymore. Honestly may leave
Agree, depressing what gets upvoted - seems like any attempt to have a conversation other than 100% agreement is met with extreme hostility.
LemmyLiterally any social mediaso you’re saying lemmy doesn’t have this problem? 🤦♀️
No bitch, that's a whole new sentence
When I read your username, I somehow get reminded of someones bathroom floor.
Sponge and plunger together
Go back to reddit then 😡
literally
any social mediareal lifeAnyone to the left of the DNC leadership: constructively criticizes Joe Biden
Biden stans: You love Trump, don't you?
On the other side of this, what I find really common is anyone who acknowledges the reality of how the US voting structure works is seen as a Biden Stan
"Hey maybe we should just elect the most popular candidate instead of potentially not electing the most popular candidate"
"HAHA LOOK AT THE LIBTARD"
First of all: least unpopular. Neither of them are very popular and most people would prefer that neither of them were amongst the two options.
Second, valid criticism ≠ voting against, not voting or telling anyone to do either.
Nothing wrong about acknowledging the reality of the system being a broken dichotomy, of course.
I'm talking about the people who shut down all valid criticism with the "but Trump is worse" whataboutism or "stop giving Trump ammunition" as if anyone sane didn't already know Trump is awful and as if the Mango Mussolini wouldn't just make shit up regardless..
That's completely fair critism is a healthy part of democracy.
If you think voting the DNC will fix anything YOU don't understand how the US voting structure works
I don't think that.
What do YOU think will work?
Eating won't fix cancer, so don't bother.
My guy: sometimes you do things to prevent new problems. Making nothing better still beats making everything worse.
That's because it's a common argument of Biden stans. It's pretty telling that they can't think of anything good to say about their candidate, so instead it's this stuff.
There's a lot of good and bad.
Bad - Supporting Israel financially, forcing the rail workers back to work from their strike, his environmental policies seem half hearted.
Good - Forgiving large amounts of student loan debt, having his cabinet work with the DEA at reclassifing weed while promoting the idea publically, putting billions into Urban reconstruction to help cities become less dependent on roads and more accessible for the least fortunate.
It's more nuanced than he's great or awful. He's just better. As it often ends up coming to in American politics.
As an aside I long for multi choice voting.
Ok I’ve seen sources for the bad. Do you have sources for good that actually involve his intervention? I refer to the fact that the loan debt cancellations so far would have happened under any other administration. I ask what actual progress has the DEA undertaken if we are still having same discussion after four years. I refer to the “American Rescue Plan” being a literal extension of the “CARES Act” (So again not his plan). Please tell me what he has done that would not have been accomplished by a plank of wood?
No yeah that totally sounds like a healthy way to engage in debate.
Sign me up
Yeah, but people also have blinders as to how the actual voting structure works. If you're in CA/NY for dems or AL/MS for repubs, your vote basically doesn't matter since those places will go blue/red no matter what, so you're 100% free to vote for the person/platform you actually like! Any insinuation that you might vote for someone other than Biden is met with immediate scorn and ridicule.
Not to detail this but that is a new one for me. What is a Stan?
an incredibly obsessed fan, usually to an unhealthy degree, but often used ironically to just mean “big fan”. named after the character stan from the eminem song stan.
It's basically a synonym for simp.
"an overzealous or obsessive fan of a particular person or thing"
Have you ever heard the Eminem song stan?
Sorry, but no. Lemmy is an echo chamber. If one server likes pancakes and another server likes waffles, they'll just defederate.
No this place is just full of bipolar virtue signaling fucks. A few weeks back a made a joke on a story about how a states new no permit open carry law. Said nothing about any group of people.
Some dude responded something to the effect of "why do you want women, gay people and black people to die?" This went on for quite a while. Him insisting that was my motivation, doubling down over and over.
And he was upvoted for this. Because...this is just how Lemmy operates.
uhm please do not use mental illness as an insult 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎sincerely not cool
Will happen in any social media. If you're neurodivergent, chances are it will happen to you offline as well. People are just really dumb.
Oh yes it can happen anywhere. But it is happening here much more than it happened to me on Reddit. Honestly at this point I'm really tempted to just give up all social media. I like having a website like this but... They all turn into toxic shit holes of one flavor or another in the end.
Fair. Hope you have a nice day.
Modern debate literally anywhere:
'So you think [some made-up bullshit]?' 'Fuck off.' And then a mod comes in and goes 'How dare you be rude to that smug liar.'
When the correct moderator action is often 'Yeah, fuck off.'
I like trains
OH SO YOU HATE AIRPLANES????
actually yes i love trains and hate airplanes at almost every facet of the comparison, thank you for noticing
Public transport woo hoo!
OH SO YOU THINK PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE PRIVATE TRANSPORTATION? You want to keep people imprisoned in their 15 minute cities? ^heavy ^/s
Me: maybe consider your ability to love a child as part of your “can I afford a child” criteria.
Reddit: so it doesn’t matter if we can’t even afford to feed ourselves because “all you need is love”?
Me: b1tch that’s a whole other sentence
i bet you are a beatles stan 😐😐 problematic
On the nose.
so you’re saying my other posts weren’t on the nose? 😧 geez ok ill try to do better
So you are saying you do like all waffles? Even blue ones??
I said someone's meme wasn't funny and was accused of hating the middle east
wow can’t believe you hate people of color and have no sense of humor, what a combo 🫤
Is it the only place if this same thing is posted on every social media platform in existence with the name of that platform edited in?
nah they fixed it on twitter tumblr and reddit in the latest patches it’s just lemmy now
Two days ago, I wouldn't have felt particularly strongly about this sentiment, but my last few comments yesterday had some interesting interpretations...
They do it on purpose.
What's wrong with having some purpose in your life? Jeezez some people are so judgemental. smh ffs asdf
You hate waffles and kittens? Wtflolcopter
I like pancakes
I like turtles.
So you hate puppies?
Who on earth could hate puppies? :'(
So you hate haters?
Sometimes
####WHY DO YOU HATE MASTODON?!?!
What does OP have against breakfast foods?
what do you have against lunch and dinner????
But why do you hate waffles?
Yeah, it’s gotten so bad that I don’t feel like posting here anymore. Honestly may leave
Agree, depressing what gets upvoted - seems like any attempt to have a conversation other than 100% agreement is met with extreme hostility.
Reminds me of https://piped.video/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec
bbc? so you support british colonial rule is that it?