Why the [removed] do swears show up as [removed]?

TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml to Jerboa@lemmy.ml – 148 points –

I'm not hating on this by the way, in fact I think it's kinda funny!

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It also says removed if you type your password

hunter2

I explained this bit of lore to my friend the other day, who is also chronically online, but a different kind than me, so they hadn't heard it before.

Lemmy has hard coded censorship. It can be disabled via the code, but irrc not via config. It was a large source of criticism, even 3 years ago: https://linuxreviews.org/Lemmy

It is a server config option. Lemmy.ml uses a banned word list, while other instances don't. The words are still there and visible from instances that don't censor.

This doesn't seem to quite be true, based on my testing in the comment here.

It seems that if your comment is made on a censored instance, the word is completely replaced, and isn't visible to non-censored instances.

If this isn't accurate and you know more about how the code actually works, I'd love to know what the details are.

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Are there any instances that you know of that disable the censorship? I already got my fill of cybernannies on Reddit.

Edit: My alt on sh.itjust.works can see the censored words, and it defederates with much fewer instances than lemmy.ml. Seems like migrating over there is the best choice.

Edit 2: I think I've finally figured it out based on what my sh.itjust.works account shows:

  1. If you're on a censored instance, all words will be blocked no matter what
  2. If you're on a non-censored instance looking at a comment from a censored instance, that comment will still show up as removed
  3. If you're on a non-censored instance looking at a comment from a non-censored instance, the comment won't be censored

When I'm on my sh.itjust.works profile, the comment by @Lazerbeams2@ttrpg.network isn't censored, but mine still is. So, the censorship gets you both coming and going - no censored words can make it into a censored instance, and no censored words can make it out either.

I've just edited all of my scripts to point to my sh.itjust.works profile instead of lemmy.ml. Wish there was a way to migrate comments and posts over, but no biggie.

Has anyone made a multi-Lemmy yet? Where all of your posts and comments from all of your profiles can show up in one place?

(also, what's the formatting for double-spacing after a list?)

Are there any instances that you know of that disable the censorship?

Considering that the list of words contains ones that a NSFW/porn instance would probably want allowed, my guess is one of those.

It's not Lemmy, but you could join us over on kbin!

I tried a few days ago, but every kbin instance I went to requires an email to sign up. Maybe I'll try again with a throwaway email.

anonaddy.com or simplelogin.io

EDIT: These are email aliasing services. You create an alias and emails get redirected to your inbox. Your original email is still protected.

Lemmy has hard coded censorship

I've noticed that a few of my comments wouldn't actually post. The word for when you commit Sudoku (suicide) seems to be on the no-no list. I also wanted to comment about a weapon known by a two letter designation (AK) and that wasn't allowed either.

Edit: seems like it might be some instances only.

I need to test this

Fuck, shit, ass, bitch. Let's see which words get removed if any

Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits, fart, turd, and twat

Edit: edited link to replace YouTube.

In case you want to know, your 5th word is "removed" when viewed from lemmy.ml

Cheers

That is very helpful, thank you.

What was the fifth word? The B-word?

[Word for male chicken that can also be used for male genitalia]-sucker

There should also be a link that points to a song where all these words are sung as lyrics to said song. Is that link also removed?

None removed, your instance doesn't block naughty word. (At least not these)

I'm pretty sure they removed the hardcoded filter as a result of the original discussion.

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Whore

Fuck

I can see everyone's swears. Nothing seems to be censored for me. Is it because lemmy.world doesn't censor or is it because Voyager (third party app) doesn't censor?

Lemmy seems to censor slurs, not swears

Oddly the B-word gets censored but not the c-word. I guess B-word is more gender specific than Cunt.

I thought that was just formatting, as a joke?

Testing: removed

Edit: LMAO

Removed? Did you type "bitch" and it was removed?

What was the first letter of the word you tried to type, and what does it rhyme with?

Starts with a W and rhymes with bore

Turns out it's probably slurs that get censored so b-word is a no-go but Cunt is fine the one that rhymes with bore is out but Fuck is fine.

That's odd, I see other users are able to write it. It's probably a limitation of your home instance specifically.

Wait, words are censored on Lemmy.ml!? What the titting fuck?? If I want to read "naughty words", that's my right as a grown-ass twat! These bitches have now pissed me right off...

This was your original comment on feddit.nl:

...and this is what it looks like on lemmy.ml / Jerboa:

Wait, we can't say removed? What the removed?

Meanwhile on Beehaw, where the only rule is to be nice, I can say “bitch bitch bitchity bitch” all I want, as long as I'm nice about it.

Which, I guess, limits its applications to discussions about dogs.

Certain words are being censored. I really don't love it but we can all fill in the blanks.

The great thing about the fediverse is that if some instance does something you don't like, you can just switch.

Fair point, but then I'm starting from scratch again which I'd prefer not to do. I think the censorship is dumb but I can live with it.

That's not how it's supposed to work. The theoretical concept (and a selling point, really) is that you can move your entire account elsewhere. In practice, it's not implemented yet for Lemmy, afaik.