That is up to the judiciary branch to decide. But I would not be lying if I'm split between actual jail, or community service with a suspended jail scentence.
Community service would be hilarious
Really? Because of anybody could benefit from some years in prison, it would be Trump.
OTOH, Hitler spent time in prison, and look how he turned out.
Hitler was also young. If Trump goes to prison, there's a good chance he dies there.
I can't stop giggling at the thought: 34 counts, each with a maximum 4 year penalty.
I know, I know... no judge is going to issue the maximum penalty on each of those counts, especially in this case. But a man can dream.
No one is above the law, unless you're a cop or you did war crimes in one of the brown people countries. Or you have a lot of money.
Turns out a lot of people are above the law.
Specially those in charge of making and enforcing them. And their friends.
It's a big club, and you ainโt in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesnโt matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who donโt give a fuck about them. They donโt give a fuck about you. They donโt give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.โ
โ George Carlin
Gotta love that George Carlin bit. Though I prefer another one.
HAHAHAHAHA TRUMP IS A CONVICTED FELON.
All those Republicans are gonna have to square their "law and order" worldview with voting for a CONVICTED FELON.
What a bunch of dipshits
All those Republicans are gonna have to square their "law and order" worldview with voting for a CONVICTED FELON.
Why? Cognitive dissonance is their bread and butter. They wouldn't be Republicans if they couldn't believe two totally mutually exclusive things at the same time
They're not smart people are they? Forgot about that.
Indeed, the idea that a party that has as its central tenets: more tax cuts for billionaires, more "free speech", er cash, to buy off politicians, zero regulations and gigantic giveaways for corporations, is "for the little guy".
I suspect that so many of them are so crazy and/or so angry is that all that cognitive dissonance which is required to hold those two contradictory ideas in their head has to drive them to distraction.
A man with 34 felonies appointed one-third of our Supreme Court. Who are the dipshits again?
The people who are going to vote for a convicted felon are still dipshits
I personally want to congratulate Donald Trump for finally winning a popular vote, but remind everybody to vote. The dipshits will.
He finally got it. Congratulations to Sleepy, Crooked, Convicted Felon Donald!
Drowsy Detained Debtor Don
LMAO that's a good one
Well, he did have some help there
Republicans are gonna have to square their โlaw and orderโ worldview with voting for a CONVICTED FELON.
That's not how republicans work. The shit they do is always about the cruelty. The "law and order" shit was only ever to cheer on enforcement on people they don't like (dark skinned people, women, non-christians, etc).
You'll drive yourself nuts trying to do things like point out hypocrisy on their 'law and order' or any of their other paper-thin dogmas because they're all made to be bullshit in the first place.
The cruelty is the point. Once you start considering their actions through that lens, they become much more consistent and predictable.
they're wriggling little worms they just add it to the lomg list of
"yeah he's a ___, but he's a good one"
-rapist
-criminal
-moron
-traitor
-grifter
-politician
It'll either be "It was a set-up by his political enemies" or "I don't care, he hates the people I hate".
โThis is bad for Joe Bidenโ
They did square it.This is a witch hunt, fixed trial, he didn't even know what the ReAl charges were. They have it all squared away and are tripling down on voting for him. You know it's Bidens DoJ, I went to r/republican and the 3 top posts are full of this and more... sad
This is a witch hunt, fixed trial
He was convicted by 12 New York jurors, some of which were approved by his own defence.
You know itโs Bidens DoJ
The DoJ is a federal organisation, they don't prosecute state crimes.
I'm not American. How can it be that these Trump supporters are so ignorant of how their own country works?
They voted for Donald, they are ignorant about how everything works.
I have no idea, I am concerned for them and us just to the north
All those Republicans are gonna have to square their โlaw and orderโ worldview with voting for a CONVICTED FELON.
Tell me you don't understand how right-wingers work without telling me you don't understand how right-wingers work.
May not be above the law but i bet hes above the punishment you or i would receive for that crime
Trump is a criminal.
Always has been. Now heโs a convicted criminal.
Watch how far above the law he is when itโs time to be sentenced. While itโs good that he was found guilty- heโs going to show how broken the system is when it comes to holding people like him accountable.
Trump's crimes will never be investigated
Trump's crimes will never be referred to a grand jury
Trump will never be indicted by a grand jury
Trump will never go to trial
The judge will throw the case out
The jury will not return a verdict / hung jury
Trump will not be convicted on all counts
Trump will not be sentenced <--- You are here
Trump will not be punished (jail / house arrest)
Trump will appeal and overturn the verdict
Trump is too old and frail to serve his sentence
You left out "the prosecution will intentionally spoil their case" or something like it but I think you got all the big ones. I'm sure we could brainstorm up a few dozen more ways they could ruin the case intentionally along the way so as to prevent justice, but I'm tired and I don't want to give the other side any hints
I think this is the most likely outcome. Its all theater and there is some legal poison pill that the defense gets use last minute
Bet me.
But IF he loses the election, he's gonna be sent to the nether realm. No one will protect him, he'll spend the rest of his life in courts or behind bars.
No one is above the law
I wish that was true, but I mean, come on...
Does anyone honestly believe that?
I mean, it's great trump is guilty is here, but this is an incredibly tone deaf comment considering the SC is literally saying they're above the law right now...
Bannon still isn't in jail, Rudy isn't in jail, trumps major case is being heard by a judge he appointed that literally doesn't understand the basics of her job...
None of the people who funded this will ever even see charges...
Like, sentencing guidelines for this is probation. It's a win, but it's mostly performative, we're nowhere close to being done.
That's the thing about progress, we can't stop fighting for more, especially when the other said is full on fascists. There's no breaks to celebrate, the fascists never stop.
Look man, I'm as cynical as it gets but this is good news and a step in the right direction.
Personally the hush money stuff to me is the least consequential but it opens the doors hopefully to nail the fucker on his other crimes.
Al Capone didn't go to prison for operating a racket or any of the numerous murders he committed or was involved with. He went to prison for tax evasion. This might be the closest we get to him ever being held accountable and I'll take it. Hopefully the court understands this and gives him the maximum sentence knowing the context of his actions.
It's a bit disappointing, but that's just how things work.
Also, given that Trump has been comparing himself to Al Capone recently in his speeches, this is quite hilarious outcome.
"Now that the Jury has rendered a verdict and Mr. Trump is a convicted felon, it is time for him to end his campaign for president. It goes without saying that it is below the dignity of the office and of our politics for a major party to be represented in this campaign by a convicted felon. I am confident MR. Trump will do right by his party and our country by suspending his campaign so that someone more deserving can receive the Republican party nomination. I look forward to a spirited campaign with the eventual nominee this fall."
Biden, in an alternate universe where democrats have spines.
Instead we get this one line " look at us, we're above the fray, we're not getting in the mud" statement, so the news just fills the vaccume with whatever bullshit trump is spouting at the moment. I guess the Biden campaign thinks convicted felon is not an issue worth campaigning on? Good call guys. Let's see how that is working (checks polls, Biden down by 5 or more points in 11 swing states), OK cool so we're fucked thanks Biden.
Yeah, nothing greater than watching Democrats fumble a slam dunk. "No one is above the law?" seriously? you want to go with a lie?
but god forbid you want a strong leader willing to take bold action. what are you, a Republican?
I think that kind of bland statement is perfect in this situation, I really do. When the hard right do their spittake over something so perfectly neutral, it shows the normies just how far gone they really are.
'No one is above the law'
see: true billionaires
He's not above the law! He's just above the results lol
Well you know what they say, 287th time's the charm.
I guffawed thank you.
Right, can we next abide by the rulings of the ICC?
Nobody is above the law, not even the ICC.
I don't know what that sentence even means but I'm pretty sure it sums up our stance on it.
LoL tell that to the Supreme Court!
Perfect way to say it.
Says the branch involved in creating and amending them.
My money is on absolutely nothing will happen to him
I like the attitude. It's not like he'll ever pay the half billion he owes to the court either, right?
Of course not. If it were you or I we would have been detained from the start and be liable for all fees
Except bibi
If Donnie fires back with "I AM THE LAW" then I think he would win the next election
Lock him the fuck up.
That is up to the judiciary branch to decide. But I would not be lying if I'm split between actual jail, or community service with a suspended jail scentence.
Community service would be hilarious
Really? Because of anybody could benefit from some years in prison, it would be Trump.
OTOH, Hitler spent time in prison, and look how he turned out.
Hitler was also young. If Trump goes to prison, there's a good chance he dies there.
I can't stop giggling at the thought: 34 counts, each with a maximum 4 year penalty.
I know, I know... no judge is going to issue the maximum penalty on each of those counts, especially in this case. But a man can dream.
136 years. happy sigh
Appeals court: โHold my beer.โ
No one is above the law, unless you're a cop or you did war crimes in one of the brown people countries. Or you have a lot of money.
Turns out a lot of people are above the law.
Specially those in charge of making and enforcing them. And their friends.
It's a big club, and you ainโt in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesnโt matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who donโt give a fuck about them. They donโt give a fuck about you. They donโt give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.โ โ George Carlin
Gotta love that George Carlin bit. Though I prefer another one.
HAHAHAHAHA TRUMP IS A CONVICTED FELON.
All those Republicans are gonna have to square their "law and order" worldview with voting for a CONVICTED FELON.
What a bunch of dipshits
Why? Cognitive dissonance is their bread and butter. They wouldn't be Republicans if they couldn't believe two totally mutually exclusive things at the same time
They're not smart people are they? Forgot about that.
Indeed, the idea that a party that has as its central tenets: more tax cuts for billionaires, more "free speech", er cash, to buy off politicians, zero regulations and gigantic giveaways for corporations, is "for the little guy".
I suspect that so many of them are so crazy and/or so angry is that all that cognitive dissonance which is required to hold those two contradictory ideas in their head has to drive them to distraction.
A man with 34 felonies appointed one-third of our Supreme Court. Who are the dipshits again?
The people who are going to vote for a convicted felon are still dipshits
I personally want to congratulate Donald Trump for finally winning a popular vote, but remind everybody to vote. The dipshits will.
He finally got it. Congratulations to Sleepy, Crooked, Convicted Felon Donald!
Drowsy Detained Debtor Don
LMAO that's a good one
Well, he did have some help there
That's not how republicans work. The shit they do is always about the cruelty. The "law and order" shit was only ever to cheer on enforcement on people they don't like (dark skinned people, women, non-christians, etc).
You'll drive yourself nuts trying to do things like point out hypocrisy on their 'law and order' or any of their other paper-thin dogmas because they're all made to be bullshit in the first place.
The cruelty is the point. Once you start considering their actions through that lens, they become much more consistent and predictable.
they're wriggling little worms they just add it to the lomg list of "yeah he's a ___, but he's a good one"
-rapist
-criminal
-moron
-traitor
-grifter
-politician
It'll either be "It was a set-up by his political enemies" or "I don't care, he hates the people I hate".
โThis is bad for Joe Bidenโ
They did square it.This is a witch hunt, fixed trial, he didn't even know what the ReAl charges were. They have it all squared away and are tripling down on voting for him. You know it's Bidens DoJ, I went to r/republican and the 3 top posts are full of this and more... sad
He was convicted by 12 New York jurors, some of which were approved by his own defence.
The DoJ is a federal organisation, they don't prosecute state crimes.
I'm not American. How can it be that these Trump supporters are so ignorant of how their own country works?
They voted for Donald, they are ignorant about how everything works.
I have no idea, I am concerned for them and us just to the north
Tell me you don't understand how right-wingers work without telling me you don't understand how right-wingers work.
May not be above the law but i bet hes above the punishment you or i would receive for that crime
Trump is a criminal.
Always has been. Now heโs a convicted criminal.
Watch how far above the law he is when itโs time to be sentenced. While itโs good that he was found guilty- heโs going to show how broken the system is when it comes to holding people like him accountable.
You left out "the prosecution will intentionally spoil their case" or something like it but I think you got all the big ones. I'm sure we could brainstorm up a few dozen more ways they could ruin the case intentionally along the way so as to prevent justice, but I'm tired and I don't want to give the other side any hints
I think this is the most likely outcome. Its all theater and there is some legal poison pill that the defense gets use last minute
Bet me.
But IF he loses the election, he's gonna be sent to the nether realm. No one will protect him, he'll spend the rest of his life in courts or behind bars.
I wish that was true, but I mean, come on...
Does anyone honestly believe that?
I mean, it's great trump is guilty is here, but this is an incredibly tone deaf comment considering the SC is literally saying they're above the law right now...
Bannon still isn't in jail, Rudy isn't in jail, trumps major case is being heard by a judge he appointed that literally doesn't understand the basics of her job...
None of the people who funded this will ever even see charges...
Like, sentencing guidelines for this is probation. It's a win, but it's mostly performative, we're nowhere close to being done.
That's the thing about progress, we can't stop fighting for more, especially when the other said is full on fascists. There's no breaks to celebrate, the fascists never stop.
Look man, I'm as cynical as it gets but this is good news and a step in the right direction.
Personally the hush money stuff to me is the least consequential but it opens the doors hopefully to nail the fucker on his other crimes.
Al Capone didn't go to prison for operating a racket or any of the numerous murders he committed or was involved with. He went to prison for tax evasion. This might be the closest we get to him ever being held accountable and I'll take it. Hopefully the court understands this and gives him the maximum sentence knowing the context of his actions.
It's a bit disappointing, but that's just how things work.
Also, given that Trump has been comparing himself to Al Capone recently in his speeches, this is quite hilarious outcome.
"Now that the Jury has rendered a verdict and Mr. Trump is a convicted felon, it is time for him to end his campaign for president. It goes without saying that it is below the dignity of the office and of our politics for a major party to be represented in this campaign by a convicted felon. I am confident MR. Trump will do right by his party and our country by suspending his campaign so that someone more deserving can receive the Republican party nomination. I look forward to a spirited campaign with the eventual nominee this fall."
Instead we get this one line " look at us, we're above the fray, we're not getting in the mud" statement, so the news just fills the vaccume with whatever bullshit trump is spouting at the moment. I guess the Biden campaign thinks convicted felon is not an issue worth campaigning on? Good call guys. Let's see how that is working (checks polls, Biden down by 5 or more points in 11 swing states), OK cool so we're fucked thanks Biden.
Yeah, nothing greater than watching Democrats fumble a slam dunk. "No one is above the law?" seriously? you want to go with a lie?
but god forbid you want a strong leader willing to take bold action. what are you, a Republican?
I think that kind of bland statement is perfect in this situation, I really do. When the hard right do their spittake over something so perfectly neutral, it shows the normies just how far gone they really are.
see: true billionaires
He's not above the law! He's just above the results lol
Well you know what they say, 287th time's the charm.
I guffawed thank you.
Right, can we next abide by the rulings of the ICC?
Nobody is above the law, not even the ICC.
I don't know what that sentence even means but I'm pretty sure it sums up our stance on it.
LoL tell that to the Supreme Court!
Perfect way to say it.
Says the branch involved in creating and amending them.
My money is on absolutely nothing will happen to him
I like the attitude. It's not like he'll ever pay the half billion he owes to the court either, right?
Of course not. If it were you or I we would have been detained from the start and be liable for all fees
Except bibi
If Donnie fires back with "I AM THE LAW" then I think he would win the next election
Except Netanyahu
Lotta Netanyahu fanboys on lemmy.
Sure thing, Genocide Joe.