I went to a panel presentation on the early colonies around the Revolution once. When they took questions, I asked if there was any special logistical problems Virginia ran into after due to how large the territory was and man, they treated me like a fuckin idiot. I still think about that. It's not, like, important or anything I just don't have a therapist for this sort of shit
should have asked them why, if they were so set on being independent, they didn't change the name of the state to something OTHER than the queen of england
At the time I was 22 and didn't have a firm grasp on the idea I could tell someone being rude to go fuck themselves. It was just a bunch of old folks pining for the glory days of national pride and dysentery, but like, fuck. Snuff out a curious light like that.
kind of strange, the older i get (40smthg now), the less respect i have for people 20+ years older than me, and the more i have for 20+ years younger
I'm older but in the same boat. Unless those younger people are part of proud technological illiterati, which really pisses me off for some reason. Probably those 30 years of being an IT drone...
It's got a few answers. For the first one, the logistics were handled by not administering the territory, those were only claims. For the next one, logistics were handled by breaking them up into other territories that would become states since administering it wasn't feasible. In the third, it was possible, but it caused problems. The civil war was not the only grievance west virginia had. They had been neglected for the better part of a century. Richmond usually didn't care much about those on the other side of the mountains. In some ways the civil war was just a good time to do what they'd probably wanted to for awhile. Really the logistics are the reason virginia is the size and shape it is today. Now they have a capitol where they can be not cared for by locals.
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Why did they treat you like that?
No idea. I still wonder sometimes where the disconnect was, but I also just try to not let things like that get to me anymore. I'm having mixed success
Soon it’ll just be the peninsula. A bunch of ponies and Eastern Shore seasonals
Edit: was supposed to be a comment on the main post, fat fingered it, my bad
So has anyone calculated by what year it won’t exist?
2025
Good
Maryland stands behind this opinion.
You say good, but that could mean North Carolina will get bigger!
As long as Ohio is not expanding
Have I got bad news for you about Trump's VP, then
Ohio has breached containment.
Make it smaller. Make it the size of Wales.
What is this? A Virginia for ants?
Wait until you see it in 2034
Virginia has some interesting laws that kick into effect then. Google "Virginia Rule '34" for more info
Its not the size that matters. It's motion of Virginias ocean!
I still don't understand why they named West Virginia so. Virginia has land further West. North Virginia?
Historical context makes it even weirder. The split was because WV allied with the North in the Civil War, North Virginia makes infinitely more sense in more ways than one.
That really does. But humans aren't particularly great at naming things sometimes.
the nucleus of Virginia Proper is further east
Where is the mitochondria of Virginia though?
Western Virginia doesn't matter.
I much prefer the 1609 version. Why have natural borders when you can have an arbitrary diagonal line that splits the majority of the continent?
I'm told that India and Pakistan loved this setup, and still celebrate the arbitrary line to this day.
Moved to this God forsaken state from Wisconsin 4 years ago and God do I regret it with every ounce of my being. Someone take me back to cheese land please
Well, just wait a while and Virginia will shrink again, and you will be in another state.
Hopefully it just recedes into the ocean never to be seen again
What brought you out there?
My girlfriends is from here originally and moved to WI in the 6th grade, we moved out here to reunite her with her entire family that lives here. We both regret it dearly
Why?
I won't go into detail but the state, people, and family are, let's just say, sub par compared to Wisconsin.
You say you're from Wisconsin, but thats the most British answer I've ever heard.
Lol I can see that. Let me persuade you. "Put 'er there bud, let's go out for a fuckin' rip on da lake and then cook up some brats on da grill afterwards, and by gosh don't forget to tell yer folks I says hi when you see dem at Sunday mass!"
You're missing at least one, but preferably multiple "Don'tChaKnow". I grew up watching Bobbys World. If that show taught me anything about Wisconsin, it's that the moms use "Don'tChaKnow" as often as Hulk Hogan uses "Brother"
Oh there's many I missed haha, Don'ChaKnow, Ope, plurals on everything even if it doesn't need a plural, You'se Guys, etc etc
Ope!
Well the last one they did to themselves
I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, I'm just saying eventually, all that will be left of Virginia will be the Delmarva peninsula and then Maryland will claim it.
Woah, I never realized Virginia had a detached peninsula like Michigan
It's imaginatively called "The Eastern Shore of Virginia."
Delaware is going to take over the whole peninsula with Joe Biden leading the way. It's all part of his evil scheme to have Delaware take over the entire Mid-Atlantic region.
"Listen, Jack. No foolin'. We take over the peninsula and the trains will be great."
No one wants West Virginia
It's easy to shit on West Virginia now, but at least they were formed by splitting from Virginia in favor of abolishing slavery. That's pretty cool in my book.
West by God Virginia. I spent a lot of time there reminding people we fought for the north.
You mean the birthplace of the labor movement where the US government used artillery on stinking miners?
The current government sucks, but the history has some truly glorious and revolutionary moments.
Still trying to shake off the Eastern Shore...
Looking at you, Onancock...
I wonder what the source is because in 1784, Connecticut made claims on the northeast part of Ohio (the Western Reserve). Virginia did have a claim on some part of central/southwest Ohio called the Virginia Military District, but that's all I'm aware of.
Just like magnetic pole flips, Virginia is due another shrink snap. It might snap out of existence when it happens.
Soon it’ll just be the peninsula. A bunch of ponies and Eastern Shore seasonals
I went to a panel presentation on the early colonies around the Revolution once. When they took questions, I asked if there was any special logistical problems Virginia ran into after due to how large the territory was and man, they treated me like a fuckin idiot. I still think about that. It's not, like, important or anything I just don't have a therapist for this sort of shit
should have asked them why, if they were so set on being independent, they didn't change the name of the state to something OTHER than the queen of england
At the time I was 22 and didn't have a firm grasp on the idea I could tell someone being rude to go fuck themselves. It was just a bunch of old folks pining for the glory days of national pride and dysentery, but like, fuck. Snuff out a curious light like that.
kind of strange, the older i get (40smthg now), the less respect i have for people 20+ years older than me, and the more i have for 20+ years younger
I'm older but in the same boat. Unless those younger people are part of proud technological illiterati, which really pisses me off for some reason. Probably those 30 years of being an IT drone...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT2ScOwezL8
It's got a few answers. For the first one, the logistics were handled by not administering the territory, those were only claims. For the next one, logistics were handled by breaking them up into other territories that would become states since administering it wasn't feasible. In the third, it was possible, but it caused problems. The civil war was not the only grievance west virginia had. They had been neglected for the better part of a century. Richmond usually didn't care much about those on the other side of the mountains. In some ways the civil war was just a good time to do what they'd probably wanted to for awhile. Really the logistics are the reason virginia is the size and shape it is today. Now they have a capitol where they can be not cared for by locals.
👊
Why did they treat you like that?
No idea. I still wonder sometimes where the disconnect was, but I also just try to not let things like that get to me anymore. I'm having mixed success
Soon it’ll just be the peninsula. A bunch of ponies and Eastern Shore seasonalsEdit: was supposed to be a comment on the main post, fat fingered it, my bad
So has anyone calculated by what year it won’t exist?
2025
Good
Maryland stands behind this opinion.
You say good, but that could mean North Carolina will get bigger!
As long as Ohio is not expanding
Have I got bad news for you about Trump's VP, then
Ohio has breached containment.
Make it smaller. Make it the size of Wales.
What is this? A Virginia for ants?
Wait until you see it in 2034
Virginia has some interesting laws that kick into effect then. Google "Virginia Rule '34" for more info
Here's what I found
Wonder if that's what you are referring to.
Will there be any left to see?
Sure hope not.
Its not the size that matters. It's motion of Virginias ocean!
I still don't understand why they named West Virginia so. Virginia has land further West. North Virginia?
Historical context makes it even weirder. The split was because WV allied with the North in the Civil War, North Virginia makes infinitely more sense in more ways than one.
That really does. But humans aren't particularly great at naming things sometimes.
the nucleus of Virginia Proper is further east
Where is the mitochondria of Virginia though?
Western Virginia doesn't matter.
I much prefer the 1609 version. Why have natural borders when you can have an arbitrary diagonal line that splits the majority of the continent?
I'm told that India and Pakistan loved this setup, and still celebrate the arbitrary line to this day.
Moved to this God forsaken state from Wisconsin 4 years ago and God do I regret it with every ounce of my being. Someone take me back to cheese land please
Well, just wait a while and Virginia will shrink again, and you will be in another state.
Hopefully it just recedes into the ocean never to be seen again
What brought you out there?
My girlfriends is from here originally and moved to WI in the 6th grade, we moved out here to reunite her with her entire family that lives here. We both regret it dearly
Why?
I won't go into detail but the state, people, and family are, let's just say, sub par compared to Wisconsin.
You say you're from Wisconsin, but thats the most British answer I've ever heard.
Lol I can see that. Let me persuade you. "Put 'er there bud, let's go out for a fuckin' rip on da lake and then cook up some brats on da grill afterwards, and by gosh don't forget to tell yer folks I says hi when you see dem at Sunday mass!"
You're missing at least one, but preferably multiple "Don'tChaKnow". I grew up watching Bobbys World. If that show taught me anything about Wisconsin, it's that the moms use "Don'tChaKnow" as often as Hulk Hogan uses "Brother"
Oh there's many I missed haha, Don'ChaKnow, Ope, plurals on everything even if it doesn't need a plural, You'se Guys, etc etc
Ope!
Well the last one they did to themselves
I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, I'm just saying eventually, all that will be left of Virginia will be the Delmarva peninsula and then Maryland will claim it.
Woah, I never realized Virginia had a detached peninsula like Michigan
It's imaginatively called "The Eastern Shore of Virginia."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Shore_of_Virginia
Delaware is going to take over the whole peninsula with Joe Biden leading the way. It's all part of his evil scheme to have Delaware take over the entire Mid-Atlantic region.
"Listen, Jack. No foolin'. We take over the peninsula and the trains will be great."
No one wants West Virginia
It's easy to shit on West Virginia now, but at least they were formed by splitting from Virginia in favor of abolishing slavery. That's pretty cool in my book.
West by God Virginia. I spent a lot of time there reminding people we fought for the north.
You mean the birthplace of the labor movement where the US government used artillery on stinking miners?
The current government sucks, but the history has some truly glorious and revolutionary moments.
Still trying to shake off the Eastern Shore...
Looking at you, Onancock...
I wonder what the source is because in 1784, Connecticut made claims on the northeast part of Ohio (the Western Reserve). Virginia did have a claim on some part of central/southwest Ohio called the Virginia Military District, but that's all I'm aware of.
Just like magnetic pole flips, Virginia is due another shrink snap. It might snap out of existence when it happens.
Soon it’ll just be the peninsula. A bunch of ponies and Eastern Shore seasonals
They know what they did.
MAVA!
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