what is with child names like Aiden, Braiden etc?

buzz86us@lemmy.world to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world – 77 points –

I'm seeing this so many times.. Like Aiden, Caiden, Braiden, Jaiden, Paiden..

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There's a well-studied phenomenon called "social diffusion". People of higher socioeconomic status seek out novel, unique, or fashionable baby names and start using them. These names gradually get picked up by families of lower socioeconomic status. Eventually the names become mainstream, and then finally decline in popularity.

Social diffusion is an explanation of how information spreads, not just names.

My understanding is that unique names and neologism have long been a feature of African-American culture where North American Caucasians followed a family naming tradition. I think what has happened is some celebrities have moved towards a unique name scheme. But it feels like a mainstreaming of AA culture more than anything.

The impetus has been there in Europe. Many nations have/had very restrictive rules about names. They'd only have rules against it if people were trying to do it. I had Swiss friends who were very excited that their daughter was born in Canada so they could name her "Sora" which wasn't in the approved name list in Switzerland.

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Wow, and the kids are in Thin Blue Line shirts. What a weird family.

In a few years, they'll all be posing with AK-47s or similar

The names, the Karen haircut, the shirts...

Chef's kiss, all that was left were some MAGA hats, maybe a confederate flag.

I would feel bad for Zayden, except that in an alternate timeline where his father was named Brad, Zayden would have been banned named Hunter. So it could be worse. I would rather be Zayden than Hunter.

I work with two guys named Hunter and they're very cool

Most Hunters I've met are pretty cool. Can't say the same about Drew's, Brock's, or Clayton's, but I feel like those are becoming more uncommon as I get older.

Jesus Christ on a motorbike, that picture just SCREAMS "upper middle class 2008 suburban white family".

I bet they have a large wooden deck out back, an above-ground pool, and a trampoline with one of those safety net cages.

Unique names and spellings became popular in the US during the 70s as part of the Black Power movement. The politically conscious black parents didn't want to name their children European names, for some reason. The problem is that these black parents had no cultural link to Africa because that had been stolen from them.

Fist came Arab names. I presume this has to do with the NOI and the black celebrities who converted to it. Some of these names are still popular like Omar and Jamal. Of course Black Americans have no more connection to Islam than they do to Christianity, So black parents just started making new names for their children.

American popular culture tends to incubate in the black community and slowly drift into white culture. So it has gone with the unique baby names.

very good answer. white people have tried to take everything from the black community, and now the names...

Aiden is tradition Gaelic and it means "fire". Caiden is also Gaelic meaning "battle" Braiden is Gaelic meaning "salmon" Jayden is Hebrew for "God will judge" Hayden is old English meaning "hedged valley"

I'd like to see your source for those. I don't know Gaelic so I can't fact check those ones, but I do know a bit of Hebrew, and names that mean 'God X' usually end in el, not en. Also, Hebrew doesn't have an English J sound, it has the IPA J sound though, or English Y sound. The Hebrew word for judge is 'shofet'.

Probably taken from this.

The name is probably a modern invention, formed by blending the "Jay" sound from the 1970s-popular name Jason with the "den" sound from names like Braden, Hayden, Jordan and Zayden.[1] The biblical name Jadon (or Yadon), Hebrew for "he will judge", appears in the Bible in Nehemiah 3:7,[2] but it is unlikely to be the source of the modern name.[1]

So I’m guessing it’s a combination of dun/den/tun etc being a common suffix in a lot of historical languages, and ‘ei’ being an extremely common diphthong worldwide just… leading to a lot of similar-sounding names that also converge in spelling in modern English?

Ashleigh, Raileigh, Kaileigh

When i read that i imagined that scene i. Fear and loathing in las vegas when they sniffed ether.

Paiden? That's a weird one. Payme on the other hand, now that's a good name.

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I knew someone with that name. Or at least I assume that was her name because she kept repeating it, like a Pokémon. Incidentally, she was a sex worker.

she was just trying to tell you, that she didn't want to get paid

It's the male version of adding -lin to the end of a name.

Never heard of this, what are some examples? Maybe caitlin? Just looked that up, it's an Irish name.

I don't think there's any history, it was just popular in the midwest in the 2000s

Caitlyn, Kaylin, Ashlin, Jaylin, Roselin, Jaquelin, Shaelin. Same with adding "leigh"

The English name suffix -in comes from the french name suffix -inne which is a feminine modifier. Eg. Jacques is a masculine name, Jacqueline is a feminine name.

But those are just names that already existed? I thought you meant like taking a name like Simon and making it Simonlin or Adam to Adamlin

You take a common name and add "lin" or any variation of that sound at the end.

The only example I have at the top of my head is Jessica-Lyn because I knew one person with that name in the past, but you get the gist.

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I feel all wrong now because you decided not to list the first three in alphabetic order.

It's been around for a while. Over a decade ago Target ran a cheeky back to school advert featuring a slow pan across school cubbies with lunch pails all labelled with variant spellings of "Braiden". I thought it was hilarious.

Like all the other sounds that come out of your face, what could be up with it?

Meanwhile, in Utah, a pair of new parents are becoming really charmed by the idea of ‘Brexit’ as a name for their next child.

This has all happened before and it will all happen again.

Everyone who played Mass Effect is sad about what happened to Kaiden Alenko and wants to bring him back.

I understand the pushback against names like this, and concern for kids receiving these names, but I think it is misdirected. Ya, sure, maybe sometimes the name is literally made up, or in other cases has multiple variations on a theme, but anyone with immigration in their ancestry can tell you that naming conventions do not always move well to other countries. In the USA, we have multiple spellings for names like Muhammed and Dermitt because of this. I don't see why this is a big deal and think it potentially enriches culture.

As usual..who cares what someone names their kid even if it sounds dumb to you don't worry about it go live your life not worrying about this shit.

It's okay to be curious about the world - wanting to understand is not the same thing as wanting to judge or prevent.

Honestly just curious about this current naming tend

It could always be worse.

Jesus Christ... Sometimes I think that maybe having restrictions on what you can name your child is actually a good idea.