How can I get YouTube to not offer rage-inducing stuff?

bremen15@feddit.org to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 138 points –

Currently in the US elections are featured in my YouTube feed, and not factual content but rage inducing.

How can I filter that?

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  1. Watch videos you want to see

  2. Click the dots > Not Interested in videos you don't

  3. Enjoy your tailored feed with only stuff you want to see!

My YouTube algorithm is fantastic. I never see politics because if I want to watch a political video, I open it in a private window

I also find that marking stuff with "not interested" works pretty well. Some far right bullshit pops up occasionally but it's quickly dealt with.

Yeah, with a small amount of effort you can really make your YouTube feed work for you. I have a main account full of engineering, computers, and misc entertainment (sketch comedy channels + Atrioc) and a separate one for my work laptop that's just music. Both feeds are pretty fantastic but the recommendations on latter is especially good - I've found a ton of new artists including some with only a few hundred followers (shout out to folk singer Alexander Guy!)

i forgot about disliking videos and channels! That might fix my problem right away. THank you

It might take some time but if you don't want to start fresh with a new account, mark everything you don't want as Not Interested as they pop up until your feed is clean! It's worth the effort imo

Also, you can tell YT to never recommend a channel. It's permanent (can't undo) but well worth the use.

I think if you sub then unsub it resets that block if you do it by mistake

In addition, if you see a video like this, I prefer to select "don't recommend channel"

Also i find that removing stuff you want to avoid from your watch history helps

Turn off all history tracking for youtube (disables all recommendations). Rely solely on your subscriptions

This is the only way. I've been doing it for years, in part because I absolutely hate catered content based on what I've viewed/read. Doing so only increases silos. At least with reddit (RIP)/Lemmy you pick from a potpourri of silos that are don't change depending on what I've read.

This is the only way.

No, that's just the only way to do it without putting in any effort.

I've have history enabled for years and I don't get much of the complaints people have about YouTube; my recommendations are fine and I usually find other channels I like that way, anything I don't like I dislike and mark as not interested and that type of content goes away after a handful of markings.

I understand the want of not being silo'd, but at the same time, I know what kind of brain rot YouTube can offer, so I'm happy to solo myself away from that dreck.

Happy with your catered silos isn't the same thing as no silos.

My "catered silos": motorsports, gaming, science, engineering, music, etc.

Oh no my biased opinions on whether or not the XR150L is worth buying or perhaps Minecraft Skyblock Challenge.
Please someone help me expand my views on Four Producers—One Sample, please!

I have the exact opposite advice lol

Edit: privacy aside, it does work. YT shows rage inducing content because it wants engagement more than anything. My algorithm is so trained now that it can show me stuff I'll actually enjoy and want to engage with and therefore it doesn't bother showing me that crap

I think that would give you the worst content on YouTube in your feed...

It literally turns off that feed you're talking about?

“How do I get rid of political recommendations filling my feed”

At the extreme end - turn the feed off entirely. Then you dont get a homepage filled with political recommendations.

What am I misunderstanding?

Sorry, I thought turning off the history tracking lead to YouTube giving you a homepage full of the top trading videos? Like if you don't log in with an account?

Hence why I included a screenshot of what my homepage shows. Is that not loading for you? There are problems with different lemmy clients not showing images.

imgur link to the same image https://imgur.com/a/NG4ITcx

Yeah I didn't realize that's what your homepage would just be permanently. I thought it was showing a message you get after turning off the tracking, based on the context. I now remember hearing about that changing recently, but it's definitely not the way it used to work.

If you turn off history you get nothing these days. Or at least that is what I get with firefox and the default ublock. Or maybe google slows loading down and I just don't wait long enough for them to pobulate the homepage.

It doesn't matter as I access youtube by subscriptions only. I don't have time to watch all the videos of interest there, much less scroll for something random.

YT wants to keep you watching YT, so:

  1. stop watching rage bait videos
  2. watch only videos you want on your feed
  3. thumbs up videos you want more of
  4. "not interested" videos you dont want
  5. hide users that post rage bait material
  6. 66 😈

Hide no longer works. The only thing it does is stop them from showing up in the comments of videos you post.

I kept seeing a commenter in a genre of video I watch, and wanted to get rid of them, but there is no way to block or hide a user except to remove them from the comments on your channel.

Do you have a yt account?

If so, curate your watch history.

I have done it for at least a decade, as soon as I watch something outside my sphere of Tech, History, Electronics, Transportation, Gaming, Amateur Radio, Lego, cool old objects, Acheology, Car, Programming, Long form documentaries, and similar videos I delete it from my YT history.

This has a huge impact, it feels sort of as if you constantly need to fight for your balance on a knife's edge, falling either way will massacre your yt feed.

I'd be happy to post what channels I subscribe to if you want to get started

This is exactly what needs to be done. I too have been curating my YT feed for years. I don't let anyone watch videos on my account and anything that is in conflict with the environment I want to maintain in my feed I simply don't watch or sign into a burner account to watch.

Everyone else's feeds are pure cancer compared to mine.

Police your algorithms, folks.

Everyone else's feeds are pure cancer compared to mine.

The worst part of it is that we have people like my dad who refuse to get a Youtube account, because then you hand over information to Google.

But he won't stop using youtube....

They already have your info! You are just refusing to actually aknowledge it and give yourself control of how a part with huge impact on you get's used!

This may be immoral, but I support kids taking control of their parents YT history, removing alt right content from their watch history and even secretly watching other interesting content to change the feed.

There have been so many horror stories of kids seeing their parents slip away to the alt right by youtube and social media algorithms and push more and more extreme content.

This needs a counter force, I would never stop someone from watching a specific video, but if I needed to I would do what I could to make it not show up in the feed.

I've heard stories about people putting on parental locks or making it harder for their parents to access Fox News and other far right media. Once that cancer has been cut off from the source, the parents started becoming like their old selves.

To keep YT under control: Firefox is my web browser, with the uBlock Origin extension installed. So, all Shorts/Suggestions, 'News' and 'Related content' are now automatically removed from YT '(easy to achieve with uBlock Origin when using Firefox).

😍🥰 Firefox + uBlockOrigin

And whenever Google/YT suggests me some turd content, I dislike it and ask it to not suggest the channel/content anymore.

In the end, my feed is mostly made of stuff I enjoy watching, with so little noise that it can not be considered an issue.

Stop clicking on them. YT shows it to you because it has seen you open them and watch a chunk of the video. The algorithm is dumb and can't tell whether you watch because you like it or hate watch them. It just knows you make engagement and revenue whenever it shows you that, so it does it more.

This isn’t true. I’m constantly getting recommended all kinds of crazy right wing video nonsense and I have never clicked on a single one nor has the only other person in my house. They are picking up on something else or just pushing those videos in general.

Some seemingly-innocuous channels just happen to appeal to fascists and become arbitrary entrances to the right wing YT pipeline.

I’ve noticed Big Think, Sabine Hossenfelder, lots of economics videos, and lots of less-reputable science channels tend to spur a rash of neocon content.

This so much. Years ago I've had it push Moon landing denial videos in my recommendations, even though I've never watched videos on conspiracies or anything of the sort at the time. The closest I got were pop-sci channels such as Vsauce, Numberphile... It's just trying to hook you onto the garbage content and garbage ideas because they have good and loyal viewership.

Yeah... Somebody is clicking them

I watch gaming and science stuff and my feed is filled with gaming and science stuff.

Agreed, though I wish youtubes algorithm was able to take into account video release date. Sometimes most of the science youtubers happen to be on a break and I end up watching a higher proportion of gaming content which then further kills the science content in my feed until I manually search it out again.

I get stuff over a year old but I don't watch the latest necessarily so it may have learned I don't care about the date.

When a video pops up that you find upsetting or irrelevant, click on the "Not interested" option. You'll have the chance to provide feedback on why you don't like the video. This helps YouTube understand your preferences better and refine future suggestions.

Safest way is to block chanels. It's a bit of a constant work, but at least I avoid falling twice for the same idiot.

Go into your watch history and delete all of the rage inducing videos. YouTube generates recommendations directly from your watch history (as well as subscriptions etc).

Then subscribe to channels you really like that don’t enrage you! I highly recommend hobby-focused and science-based channels. There are tons of them out there and they have great content!

Apparently the gardening and eco/tiny-house world is very wholesome, because that's 75% of what I watch (not including music) and I never see recommendations for ragebait.

Use a different YouTube client. Free tube for the desktop, new pipe for Android.

That way you control your feed completely and your recommendations. You don't get to see the rage algorithmic baiting

I use Newpipe to anonymously access subscriptions and nothing but. Bonus is you can download it locally as video or 160kbps .opus

On a video in a video list page there should be a "..." menu next to the title. It has options for "hiding" the video and "don't recommend channel". I can't comment on how effective those are, but they might give the algorithm some hints about what you want to watch.

In addition, if you have stuff on your watch history that you don't want to see more of, you can go to https://www.youtube.com/feed/history and remove them. Allegedly that stops them being used to decide what videos are recommended.

Personally I prefer not to be fed by the algorithm. I bookmarked 'subscriptions', check for new ones and if there aren't any I go do something else.

Stay within your sub box. If you want to watch recommended, stay within the video you are watching right now.

Subscribe to creators you like instead of just watching random shit?

I have a question

Why is election stuff rage inducing? Like what’s an example of a thumbnail you would see that would induce rage?

Example: Thumbnail with Trump and some other guy i dont know, big caption: "OH MY GOD!" Video title: "Trump Released the MOST EMBARRASSING Video EVER & You HAVE to Watch it! | Bulkwark Takes"

I assume it is designed to induce rage.

I highly recommend the DeArrow extension. I was on a waiting list after installing, for a few days, and then once I got access it has made the entire YouTube experience much better.

The extension removes clickbait thumbnails (replacing them with a part of the video itself), and clickbait titles are replaced with more accurate descriptions. It's all done by a big community, so the more popular videos are likely to have the edits, however overall it certainly is a better experience for me.

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That is clickbait nonsense. I think it’s designed to induce as revenue. I generally don’t watch and avoid all versions of it, electoral and not (“You won’t BELIEVE what this HERO CAT did for Pennsylvania mother of 3”)… I get what you’re saying and it’s dumb but why does it cause you rage?

For me, it does not induce rage but depression because it makes me sad. I don't even need to watch it.

If seeing dumb video thumbnails on YouTube impacts your mood I think you need to stay away from YouTube.

Clear or curate (remove anything political) your watch history, start liberally (hue hue) blocking shit. Install BlockTube. (uBO and SponsorBlock are also a given, just slightly less on topic)

I had to clear my history because all I was getting was jujutsu kaisen and none of my subscription stuff was coming through.

There is a subscription page! I had no idea for years that in addition to the home page (which is a mix of subscription and algorithm videos) there's a subscription page which only lists videos from channels you're subscribed to, in order of recency.

this is radical suggestion, but maybe dont use youtube? its working for me.

I like the idea. Can you elaborate, please? Did you stop, or did you never start? Do you use something else instead? How do you wind down or get a quick laugh?

so, i just stopped going directly to youtube and switched to doomscrolling a meme-excessive feed [for humor]. youtube still pops up in fediverse feeds, and i will watch some things from there, but i'm not going directly to the domain.

ive never really appreciated video on the web. i prefer to stream locally. the few youtube videos i want (usually obscure vhs copies of old shit), i have my kid download into out media center.

I get what you’re saying. I make it a habit to always have a laugh before bed regardless of how my day went. For a while it was Seinfeld reruns. Now I’ll watch After Midnight or some other sitcom rerun. But the main thing I do is not use my phone exclusively for entertainment during the last few hours believe bed.

How can I get Lemmy to stop all the political stuff

Subscribe only to communities you want, and then use your subscribed feed instead of the local or all feeds.

Keep ignoring the videos and choosing "don't recommend this channel", eventually they will diminish.

My shorts feed cleaned up eventually like this.

Stop clicking, interacting, hovering or looking at the thumbnail for too long. Clear your watch history. Search up lots of unrelated content that you enjoy, thumbs it up, subscribe to unrelated channels you like. It will stop doing that. Mine basically only shows video essays an, science, technology and gaming content

Some shit gets injected by region or time of day. I live in a red state and get obnoxious red state hobbys that I am either not interested in or only minorly interested in and the ads are even worse.

Turn off history. It makes the homepage blank, and you will only see your subscriptions. But, there are still recommendations in the side bar you will have to ignore.

Browsing YouTube on incognito does the same, I believe.

Don’t log in, clear your cache, use a vpn

Don't log in

Terrible advice, you deny yourself the best tool you have against this, curating your watch history.

clear your cache

Fair, if you absolutely refuse to create an account, then this is your only option.

use a vpn

I am an IT technician, and people need to cool it with yelling for other's to use a VPN constantly, a VPN service doesn't really add anything to your privacy, well, it adds another link in the chain that you need to trust, the only thing your should use a general VPN for is watching region locked content. If you want privacy, use TOR running in a VM.

Don't log in

Terrible advice, you deny yourself the best tool you have against this, curating your watch history.

—- Person 1: phone is constantly being harassed by spammers and scammers with spoofed numbers, calling person 1 by name, mentioning their make and model of car, etc.

Person 2: doesn’t own a phone —-

Person 2 is better off. I think it’s pretty good advice.

Sponsorblock, ublock origin(don’t use chrome), and Unhook are nice browser extensions to help remove much of the bullshit.

Delete Google, the apps are trash. If you want web based content go directly to the source. Highlights::Your Team Page, space videos::space website, political info::unbiased news sources, silly memes::giphy, etc. The Google algorithms are severely flawed as well as the algorithms of all generative content sites that collect your data.