What do you think of Gordon Ramsay, his shows, his recipes and the way he is ?

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It amazes me how many people still don't realize his asshole schtick is just him playing a character

Watch him on master chef junior and you can see how well he treats the kids and how encouraging he is. Even on master chef he’s a lot less of an asshole vs hotel hell or hells kitchen

Exactly. In the UK version he was not an angry, shouty cunt. That was added for the US show.

It's as if people think The Rock was actually the heel he played in WWE or Anthony Hopkins is actually a cannibal who kills and eats people.

Wait. Hold on. Are you telling me THAT one isn't true?

I understand that but that character is so offputting to me that I simply can't watch.

Puts on a show for the American audiences. Otherwise seems okay.

This is it. His shows are overproduced for Americans, using cheap effects and dramatization for terrible reality TV. So I never watch him.

I think it'd be a lot different if I saw a version that was just what happened. Like kitchen nightmares but without all of the dramatics. That I would watch all the time. So of course they don't make it.

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Spot on. Him on TV playing into his character seems like a POS. But from some of his other stuff he seems like a decent dude who acknowledges he doesn't know everything.

Is it really for American audiences? He seems the same to me in the UK Kitchen Nightmares

In the U.K. he's way less hard on folks then in the states. Of course, it could also be they're way less combative. No Amy's Baking Companies in the U.K. I don't think.

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I think he amassed a fortune legitimizing workplace abuse.

I can't stand him but I don't find any entertainment from people being assholes.

A British chef? Oxymoron much?

Brits are going to teach the world about FOOD? Do they even know what spices are? Does ANYONE else think BEANS on TOAST is GOOD?

Next we'll get some Jamaican bobsledders, one-handed clapping, military intelligence and accurate estimates.

Hey! I saw a documentary about those guys one time.

They managed to stay cool running around everywhere.

Ah the british: know how to use spices, built a globe spanning empire to acquire them and stereotypically dont use most of them.

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After seeing him attempt and fail at making a "fancy grilled cheese" I don't even know if he's really a chef or just an actor. What kinda chef uses cheese that doesn't melt to make a grilled cheese sandwich?!

He owned up to that L in this YouTube video: https://youtu.be/ENhfIeZF_AY?si=

Which is more than Jamie Oliver ever did for that fried rice.

He really messed up on that one. Many Ramsay haters and fans could agree.

I really enjoyed watching Alton Brown on "hot ones", he was cool and composed the entire way through, actually had critique of the flavors and why they didn't work well, he never complained about the spiciness of the food,, but had a nuanced and appreciative evaluation of what was occurring in his mouth.

The algo recommended this chuckleheads appearance on hot ones next, he went full schtick with it, I don't think I got hallway through before getting tired of it.

I enjoy seeing him humble (how to cook eggs), or humbled (James May head to head), but I don't like his manic energy and crass style of criticism delivery.

Alton Brown on “hot ones”

Thank you for this recommendation!

I don't watch a lot of hot ones, but his is shoulder above heads better than any other episode of 'hot ones' I've seen. There have been other good episodes, but for a sauce/flavor breakdown Alton Brown does it phenomenally

I watched it last night and the way he was just like, "oh, nice use of ginger", "too much cilantro", and "I can fix this!!" was great! He wasn't focusing on the heat, he was focusing on the taste and it was great!

It's amazing to me that he can separate the discomfort from the quality, I went into the other "chefs"that have done the show looking for similar evaluation, and I've been disappointed every time. Alton Brown is truly another level of professional, I need to re rewatch good eats.

He's a good guy. I probably wouldn't get along with him, but that's just different natures.

Bdw, James May vs Gordon Ramsey cookoff

Thanks for sharing! I had not seen that!

::: spoiler I love how it ended. "It's 3-2."

"It got two?"

"Um, so, uh, the winner is... James."

"Are you any good at driving?"

"Beaten by a fucking shaggy tramp, that spent four hours peeling his fucking potatoes!" :::

  1. All trash beyond the early European version of kitchen nightmares
  2. Probably generally fine as he actually started as a decent chef in actual restaurants, but they are very likely not "his" recipes and instead written and maintained by an editorial staff.
  3. Unfortunately modeled after actual fine dining restaurant chefs from my first hand experience (though things are likely evolving from after the financial collapse forward and the general shift away from fine dining).

I think it's mostly a personality made up for TV. He seems fine. I don't think I would consider the majority of TV chefs to be the top tier in the culinary world. Not to mention, the definition of the "best" recipe isn't static. There's a whole lot of "well how much work do you want to put into it?" and not to mention "are you OK if it has an entire stick of butter in it?"

I think that he is an aspen tree, because of the way he is.

He yells at people for using thermometers on Hell's Kitchen. Hey carpenter, how dare you use a nail gun! One of the most useful tools for making sure food is safe and he thinks it makes you less of a chef.

They're going to be a head chef at one of his restaurants. I don't think it's a crazy requirement as so many contestants are able to do it just fine.

It's taking an important tool out of the tool box for no other reason than his personal bias against them.

You don't think it's a metric of competency? I don't know, I'm not in the restaurant industry but it seemed like a skill to me.

Just because it's a competency doesn't mean you shouldn't use the tools available to you. Should I not use woodworking jigs because I'm competent in cutting dovetails? It makes the job easier and less prone to errors.

Gordon always makes it a point that it's extremely easy to do, but I genuinely don't know cooking so I can't check the veracity.

However, I also can't check your analogy either because I'm not great at cooking nor woodwork. If it were programming and someone had to use GitHub CoPilot during an interview to do what I considered an easy task then I'd not want to have them at a high level.

Once again, my analogy I'd probably bollocks because I don't know cooking.

You bring up some good points. I just figure it was a high level competition, but I see where you're coming from.

I think a better analogy would be if you were interviewing and someone didn't do simple functionality testing because they were such an awesome coder, what would you think

I think I'm going to agree to disagree.

Have a good one mate.

Maybe if he used a thermometer he wouldn't have made the world's most undercooked grilled cheese sandwich.

There's no excuse for that abomination. That grilled cheese is indefensible.

I like the F Word. Most episodes are on YouTube and it's far better than his other personas that you've probably seen.

I would not want to work for him, but he knows his way around in a kitchen.

He's an asshole and a hypocrite.

I think his microwave critique was targeted at commerical kitchens not home cooks. There's a significant difference in expected quality between ordering out and home meals for many people. IMO he'd be a hypocrite if he used them in his restaurants.

Would you still feel that way is the best steak you had ever eaten in your life was cooked in a microwave?

I’m not even saying that’s possible, but dammit, you can turn Oreos into a really good cake in the microwave, and with how it all Hass to work for that actually happen, I don’t know that you could do it any other way, or than if you even did that it would be nearly as good.

Seriously you need to take some Oreos crush them up in a coffee mug that’s microwave safe obviously and then mix in just enough milk to make it look like a really thick batter, damn near into a dough.

Then microwave it for 30 seconds to a minute depending on your microwave.

If you have ice cream, or even just whipped cream, or anything like that, it would go really good on top of super hot, moist, chocolatey, gooey, but still firm cake, I would go ahead and use that.

I am not anti microwave. But it doesn't have a place when you need to make a dish with a crisp texture. It'd be great for warming mash potatoes but maybe not for a steak.

It is a tool like any other. The issue is when cooks only use the microwave and not their other options. IMO.

I mean, how many winning chefs has he called shit and lazy? That's just how he does publicity.

It's all just a character, as others are saying. Uncharted made me feel like he's bad ass, even if its pretty scripted

It may just be a character, but it's not a character I enjoy watching. I'd much rather watch Alton Brown or Kenji.

Funny guy, but maybe a tad aggressive.

IF you agree to be a toxic, abusive, bullying shit, for ratings,

THEN that is within you, and your nature can't claim otherwise.

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Yeah, stay away from Anthony Hawkins, you just know he's a cannibal deep within.

Seriously, it's 2024 and we still can't differentiate actors from their roles? WTF?