Lindsey Graham Says Joy ‘Doesn’t Exist in the Real World’

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19046110

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said he isn’t buying all that Democratic “joy” on display at this past week’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago during a Sunday appearance with Jake Tapper on CNN’s State of the Union.

During their conversation, Tapper brought up the “disciplined” and “well-produced” DNC this week that, as the journalist put it, “conveyed patriotism and unity.” Graham didn’t see it that way.

“Well, I didn’t see what you saw,” Graham told Tapper with a laugh. “If you’re a Republican, you saw a hate fest. You saw a hate fest full of insults.”

“Americans are not joyful when they go to the gas station and fill up their car,” he continued. “They’re not joyful when they make their mortgage payment. They’re not joyful when they go to the grocery store. People are hurting, and this whole joy love fest doesn’t exist in the real world.”

To bolster his claim, Graham pointed to the gas prices, the state of the border, and inflation during Donald Trump’s presidency when “the world was not on fire.”

He's either lying or what he said gives us a look into his shitty perspective of the world. Either way such a miserable and pathetic existence.

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true, if you're Lindsey Graham

The problem with this corrosive, inflexible conservative narrative, is that these joyless assholes try and impose themselves politically and on everybody.

Also true if he is talking about Joy the character from Pixar’s Inside Out

Uh-oh, the War on Christmas has claimed Lindsay Graham as its latest victim!

Seems like the problem with the republicans, or any religious conservative for that matter, is that because their rules (that they chose to follow) don't allow them to have fun, or that theyre dead inside as a result of those rules, no one else is allowed to live a live outside of those rules.

"Puritanism — The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." — H L Mencken

It's almost like many conservatives are psychopaths who are literally incapable of emotions (well, other than hatred anyhow.)

Oh wait, they are:

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We found eleven significant correlations between conservative [Moral Intuition Survey] judgments and the Dark Triad – [narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy,] all at significance level of p<.00001 – and no significant correlations between liberal [Moral Intuition Survey] judgments and the Dark Triad. We believe that these results raise provocative moral questions about the personality bases of moral judgments. In particular, we propose that because the Short-D3 measures three “dark and antisocial” personality traits, our results raise some prima facie worries about the moral justification of some conservative moral judgments

I ran a follow-up study testing the Dark Triad against conservative and liberal judgments on 15 additional moral issues. The new issues examined include illegal immigration, abortion, the teaching of “intelligent design” in public schools, the use of waterboarding and other “enhanced interrogation techniques” in the war on terrorism, laws defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman, and environmentalism. 1154 participants […] Twenty-two significant correlations were observed between “conservative” judgments and the Dark Triad (all of which were significant past a Bonferonni-corrected significance threshold of p = .0008), compared to seven significant correlations between Dark Triad and “liberal” judgments (only one of which was significant past p = .0008).

In the present research (N = 675), we focus on the relationship between the dark side of human personality and political orientation and extremism, respectively, in the course of a presidential election where the two candidates represent either left-wing or right-wing political policies. Narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and everyday sadism were associated with right-wing political orientation, whereas narcissism and psychopathy were associated with political extremism. Moreover, the relationships between personality and right-wing political orientation and extremism, respectively, were relatively independent from each other.

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That explains the republican mindset so well. If joy doesn't exist in the world, you're not taking it from others when you spread your misery.

Lindsey, just because being in a hotel room with another man feels like a fantasy world, does not mean joy does not exist in the real world.

The state of the border is due to Republican interference on that border bill specifically requested by Trump to keep it an issue this election, gas prices are well below inflation, and Inflation performance was better overall when compared to other Western Nations during Biden's term and worse than during Trumps.

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Lindsey is full of shit.

I hope he finds joy by admitting to himself and others who he really is.

Yeah. I dunno about LG, but I often reflect on the fabulous drag queen show that would kick off an age of prosperity if a bunch of closeted conservatives could relax and stop bullshitting themselves.

Lindsey Graham is a he? I'd heard the name, and always assumed it was some blonde haired bimbo who wears glasses to give the apperance of an intellectual without anything of value to actually say.

And how can you change that as a lawmaker?

Edit: Of course this is meant to be a joke, because that’s the exact opposite of GOP. Capitalize on hate and drive hope into the bowels of hell.

He's not a lawmaker, he's a radical Christian nationalist in lawmaker clothes.

He actually believes this

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His ladybugs 🐞 will be so upset to learn this 😭😭😭

What a sad statement from someone it is all too easy to believe actually thinks such a thing.

Lindsey Graham may be the most miserable person in congress.

He's a "lifelong bachelor" 🙄, not allowing himself to experience true happiness with another person of his choosing according to his orientation out of the knowledge that he would be ostracized by his colleagues, voted out of office, and would lose his livelihood. He chose capitalism and power at the expense of his own joy, so he can go ahead and be as miserable as he wants to be for all I care.

He just hasn’t found a woman who has what he wants, which is a penis.

Plenty of women with penises out there.

... maybe none that'd touch Lindsey, but he did that to himself.

Putin and Trump have something really, really bad on him. Or least, in the eyes of his constituents. The way he turned on a dime in Trump support after one round of golf tells you everything you need to know.

"Is that you eating a chocolate bar, Lindsey?"

"nobody feels good"

"after childhood, it's a fact of life. I feel rotten. So what?"

What's this from?

Joe vs. The Volcano

Very interesting trailer. Of course Meg Ryan. Is it any good as a film?

I saw it in theaters as a kid. It was good, but I don't really remember the plot since I haven't seen it since then

Tom Hanks in an 80s comedy (came out in 90 close enough) is usually worth it, I only watched it once a number of years ago. It wasn't overly memorable but I recall enjoying it well enough. There was probably jokes I wasn't paying attention enough to notice. However when you add Meg Ryan with Hanks you can't really go wrong.

Who knew that a person from a party of lies and doublespeak, a party set on a warpath of subjugating those they don't like, a party creating hypocrite rules that they themselves don't follow unless convenient would not want to admit to the existence of happy emotions. They're so caught up in a web of bullshit that they have no concept of which way is up, right, or good, let alone happy.

Looks like Lindsey doesn’t shop at Trader Joe’s.

Oh, I think it does, in hotel rooms all around the RNC, Miss Graham.

Known by the male escorts around DC as "Lady G", so I've heard.

I would have no problem believing that. I also heard when he... reaches ecstasy, he sounds like Mickey Mouse.

As a guidance, we should just not allow politicians to complain without having a detailed solution in hand. Give the seats to the people who can and are willing to get shit done. If you want to complain in public office, make sure you have the plan, funding, resources etc in place.

Errrrrrr…………………

^somebody get this man out of the building^

I mean, he's not wrong. (And I say that as someone who despises him.)

Most people don't find skyrocketing rent, gas, electricity, and grocery costs to be particularly joyful. Democrats know this, which is why they're making the election more about memes than the record of Joe Biden as president.

Call me when Kamala finds the fortitude to put an actual platform on her website.

I'm looking for your link to Trump's plan for those issues. What's his solution? Banning immigrants? A costly wall? Tax breaks for the rich again? Let another million die from a pandemic? Argue about crowd sizes? Maybe blowing up a hurricane?

I'm not a Trump supporter, but unlike Harris, he actually has a platform on his website.

I suppose that's where you should start.

Ah, the new home of project2025!

Seriously, though, I assume this is what you're referring to where he's going to solve those problems:

President Donald J. Trump passed record-setting tax relief for the middle class, doubled the child tax credit, and slashed more job-killing regulations than any administration had ever done before. Real wages quickly increased as a result, and median household income reached the highest level in the history of our country, while poverty reached a record low. President Trump created nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones to revitalize neglected communities. President Trump produced a booming economic recovery, and record low unemployment for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, and women. Joe Biden is the destroyer of America’s jobs and continues to fuel runaway inflation with reckless big government spending. President Trump’s vision for America’s economic revival is lower taxes, bigger paychecks, and more jobs for American workers.

I see no plan, aside from some very vague promises and an attack on a guy who isn't even running.

I'm not sure why you're arguing with me about it. I don't like Trump either, but feel free to argue if it makes you feel better about supporting another conservative.

Quick reminder of this conversation: You suggested I check his website for his platform, so I did, and found that there's only "I did this" and some vague promises that do not specify any sort of actual plan. You seem to think that's arguing, but I'm trying to explain that there's actually no useful information there.

Basically, it's no better than Kamala's and arguably even worse because he's making promises we all know he's not going to keep (Kamala makes no promises that I saw). And he still thinks he's running against Biden.

shrugs

There's literally a page that says 'Platform' on it. I don't know how to help you find what's right there in the navigation.

I only know because I was quite surprised to see that someone running for president didn't even have the wherewithal to make their positions public, but the literal fascist did.

I'd love to have an honest candidate for once, but it apparently won't be happening in 2024. And I need more than good memes to make me want to vote for someone with Harris' record.

You seem to be intentionally misunderstanding which side actually has a plan or policy meant to help anyone other than the rich. Trump doesn't know or care what the policy plans behind 2025 are, but as long as he gets his but in the seat that can keep himself out of jail and make people keep paying attention he'll sign whatever the actual handlers come up with

You seem to be intentionally misunderstanding which side actually has a plan or policy

I'm not misunderstanding anything. I can look at the last 40 years of federal legislating and see who benefits, regardless of the promises made.

What I don't understand is how you can sit through yourself being impoverished by surging rent, 1.5x to 2.5x grocery costs, spikes in gas prices and electricity, and wages that have decreased with inflation, and then tell me I should be joyful about a Harris presidency. Biden has been such a monumental failure that he and Harris both are too scared to post policy proposals on their websites.

They just want us focused on their memes about 'joy' and Republicans being 'weird'.

That's how things work in the US. The candidates make speeches and the wealthy benefit. The rest of us have to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and work 2-3 jobs.

And I know the same happens if Trump is elected. It's just particularly sad that the literal fascist isn't too scared to post his proposals and the supposed liberals are. (But if elected they'll rule as conservatives.)

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