Don't worry, I appreciate the work our admins have put into the site
One of the beautiful things with the fediverse is that I've just created an alt account on another instance, so I can
1: Reduce the load on lemmy.world servers
2: use the alt account if lemmy.world is down
Idk, I feel too lazy to inform myself of what other instances are about and creating a whole new account for them
I'm commenting from lemmy.nz. If you have an account on another instance you can still access everything on lemmy.world
and with LASIM you can migrate all your subs over with a couple clicks.
and with LASIM you can migrate all your subs over with a couple clicks.
I've been so hesitant about making another account, but this one seem very useful. Thanks for this one!
That's is one of major Lemmy flaw IMHO
They should have separated identification and content.
Make a unified id system and then let people host their own communities on the federated level.
This would have been expecially important as you can't really move your account among instances, and would have make the registration process also much easier for normal users who just want to use the platform
The point of Lemmy is decentralisation. No one thing has ultimate power
You can make identification decentralized/distributed too
Just in a different way so that it is unequivocal
The only protocols I've seen which do this require users to use PGP/GPG keys. Its very definitively not user friendly. I'd rather the Lemmy and KBin devs emphasize their focus on other improvements rather than reinvent how the fediverse, including mastodon, does authentication
i read that is one of technical improvement that the bluesky atproto try to implement
Isn't .NZ exclusively about New Zealand? Like, I'm a native Spanish speaker, but I don't see any lemmy instances in spanish
Read the two sentence long descriptions on join-lemmy.org/instances and use the same username and password if you're that lazy.
sweet
see I always expected it to be like a "well, first you gotta have a MariaDB or Postgress" then "you'll need to configure nginx" followed by security gobblygook , and if you want a UI you'll have to figure that out on your own
Yeah I mean, if you want to RUN a server
Yeah, it's pretty simple.
Or join a specialized instance and create a username that the people in that instance will understand but not the normies. (For the record, yes, this is my lemmy.world account, but my username on startrek.website is much more obscure than this one)
Oh I see the problem! There just isn't enough RGB!
Just download more RAM FFS! How hard can it be??
Really good bacon?
I see the issue. The ram isn't oriented correctly. And to overclock they should let the potato sprout.
The CPU is also set to Mini, they should turn it to Wambo.
Some stickers would probably help as well.
Yeah, flames on the side make it go faster.
You obviously know how to finely tune a spaceship.
Mmm, baked potato 🤤
Better sick another RAM module in there for good measure.
Better seat them properly too - not all the pins of the current RAM are inserted into the potato. No wonder it isn't working!
We need to download more RAM
That's how you can tell this is obviously fake, the RAM needs to be connected pins first.
If it were on it's side 100% legit.
As far as retro PCs go these days that's like $1000 in parts
I've got a potato farm running hundreds of these... Solar powered too! I'll be mining that mash to the moon.
Gigabyte? Pshh, no wonder! Should've used Asrock.
It's probably running Windows Me
We're running Windows Vista thank you and please
💪😎💪
Vista literally wouldn't run on a potato. It's too powerful for it to handle. But it's awesome that you managed to fit it on there without it exploding.
They've talked about the ddosing on the lemmy.world discord server.
They can't say it because their instance is down :)
PS2 and VGA connector, tiny heatsink, only 1 USB slot… That's an antedeluvian machine, no wonder it can't take the load ^^
We call them 'vintage potatoes.'
Adding another stick of memory would really turn this thing into a beast! It’s never wise to use a single stick.
how are you holding up? because I'm a potato >~>
Clap
Clap
Clap
Oh good. My slow clap processing has made it into this thing. So we have that.
Hey Lemmy admins, what can the users do to help?
I think the idea is to disperse to other instances. If lemmy.world has 70% of users then it makes a bigger target for attack.
If we are dispersed then, even if lemmy.world goes down it would only effect a small portion of your feed.
Either way, the more spread out our net of users is the stronger the fediverse will be. I am going to move instances myself, although my content will still be viewable on lemmy.world. such is the power of the fediverse
I've done this to a degree as well. I used this LASIM tool someone wrote to auto-move all my user settings and subscribed communities. Pretty neat!
going on the site is flipping a coin for whether it'll be up or not
Always happy to see Linux on a potato!
smugly points out other servers exist
correct me if i'm wrong, but i think if the instance your account is on is down you can't interact with any other instances?
I think you may misunderstand. Let's say Lemmy.world goes down, you are still free to make a new account on any other Lemmy instance and still have the same username (hopefully). Smokeydope@Lemmy.world simply becomes smokeydope@lemm.ee or whatever instance you make a new account on. A lot of instances federate with most other instances so you will more or less get access to the same content. A good Lemmy client like Voyager/wefwef.app let's you hot swap between multiple accounts
Unfortunately there's no way to export/import sub's which I think should be a feature in the future. I'm not sure if you can access Lemmy.world content from another instance while it's down maybe someone else can chime in on that.
Here is a good instance list that shows number of users. Seeing it really helped me understand why Lemmy.world is down. It has 22k users. The next largest has 4k. Most others barely scrape hundreds.
We are guilty as aspecies of tending
to choose the most popular option because it offers the most interaction. The enemy of federation is ourselves and cognitive bias. I am guilty as charged.
Here's a good list to find reddit sub replacements on fediverse too very helpful
https://sub.rehab/
You can use this to migrate your settings/communities:
By the way, Awesome Lemmy Instances shows monthly active users, not total user counts. Your point still stands that lemmy.world has many more users than all the other ones tho.
According to lemmy.world admins, the downtime is caused by DDOS attacks, not big user count. I still think the large user count is part of the problem because I imagine it's easier to DDOS one server with 120,000 users than 12 servers with 10,000 users
We are guilty as aspecies of tending
to choose the most popular option because it offers the most interaction.
I don't understand what this means. If I compare the All tab between lemmy.world and a smaller instance like lemmy.ca, they are both pretty much identical. I don't feel like I'm missing any interaction.
For small instances I can see why it's a problem since at least one person needs to be subscribed to each community to federate the posts, but there are many instances that are big enough to not really have this problem.
Thanks for the info! What I meant by that was that traditional social media has always lived and died by popularity. People congregated to the most popular and thus most active sites and forms because they offered the most chance for interaction and someone Seeing what you write. There's a reason why when everyone used reddit Digg faded to obscurity or when MySpace was replaced by FB. There's probably some real life examples of this kind of mass congregation of social human beings leading to towns and whatever but that's besides the point.
Federation changes the game in a fundamental way. No longer is the biggest centralized site the 'best one' instead a bunch of small instances can have more or less the same reach, content, and interaction as a big one. It will take some time for people who grew up with the rise of social media like myself to mentally adapt to the idea.
They're implying people can go make an account on those other instances to continue to use lemmy. Smugly.
Network error, Network error, Network error. This shit is worse than trying to stream a video with dial up
Put it in H!
iTater
so true
Lol this is funny. @gsa32 if you created this you deserve an award. 🎖️
One of the beautiful things with the fediverse is that I've just created an alt account on another instance, so I can
1: Reduce the load on lemmy.world servers
2: use the alt account if lemmy.world is down
Idk, I feel too lazy to inform myself of what other instances are about and creating a whole new account for them
I'm commenting from lemmy.nz. If you have an account on another instance you can still access everything on lemmy.world
and with LASIM you can migrate all your subs over with a couple clicks.
I've been so hesitant about making another account, but this one seem very useful. Thanks for this one!
That's is one of major Lemmy flaw IMHO
They should have separated identification and content. Make a unified id system and then let people host their own communities on the federated level.
This would have been expecially important as you can't really move your account among instances, and would have make the registration process also much easier for normal users who just want to use the platform
The point of Lemmy is decentralisation. No one thing has ultimate power
You can make identification decentralized/distributed too
Just in a different way so that it is unequivocal
The only protocols I've seen which do this require users to use PGP/GPG keys. Its very definitively not user friendly. I'd rather the Lemmy and KBin devs emphasize their focus on other improvements rather than reinvent how the fediverse, including mastodon, does authentication
i read that is one of technical improvement that the bluesky atproto try to implement
Isn't .NZ exclusively about New Zealand? Like, I'm a native Spanish speaker, but I don't see any lemmy instances in spanish
y si, .nz es nuevo zelanda. soy kiwi
*Nueva
Spanish is a very gendered language
Ah si, lo siento, nuevo zelando :P
Por cierto hay instances que estan en espanol.
Posiblemente puedes encontrar algo en ese link?
https://lemmyverse.net/
Si no puedes, hay communities en espanol como...
!memelas@mujico.org
Read the two sentence long descriptions on join-lemmy.org/instances and use the same username and password if you're that lazy.
sweet
see I always expected it to be like a "well, first you gotta have a MariaDB or Postgress" then "you'll need to configure nginx" followed by security gobblygook , and if you want a UI you'll have to figure that out on your own
Yeah I mean, if you want to RUN a server
Yeah, it's pretty simple.
Or join a specialized instance and create a username that the people in that instance will understand but not the normies. (For the record, yes, this is my lemmy.world account, but my username on startrek.website is much more obscure than this one)
Oh I see the problem! There just isn't enough RGB!
Just download more RAM FFS! How hard can it be??
Really good bacon?
I see the issue. The ram isn't oriented correctly. And to overclock they should let the potato sprout.
The CPU is also set to Mini, they should turn it to Wambo.
Some stickers would probably help as well.
Yeah, flames on the side make it go faster.
You obviously know how to finely tune a spaceship.
Mmm, baked potato 🤤
Better sick another RAM module in there for good measure.
Better seat them properly too - not all the pins of the current RAM are inserted into the potato. No wonder it isn't working!
We need to download more RAM
That's how you can tell this is obviously fake, the RAM needs to be connected pins first.
If it were on it's side 100% legit.
As far as retro PCs go these days that's like $1000 in parts
I've got a potato farm running hundreds of these... Solar powered too! I'll be mining that mash to the moon.
Gigabyte? Pshh, no wonder! Should've used Asrock.
It's probably running Windows Me
We're running Windows Vista thank you and please 💪😎💪
Vista literally wouldn't run on a potato. It's too powerful for it to handle. But it's awesome that you managed to fit it on there without it exploding.
Or they downloaded more ram lol
Link?
Here
Excellent Link thank you
Here you go
Not a virus I swear 🤡
Rubbish. They have one hamster on a wheel, running so fast his feet are red hot.
I gave up with Lemmy World and made an account elsewhere.
Sir, we’re gonna need another hamster
Are you Richard Gere or Marc Almond?
ikr it crashes basically every day
It's getting DDOSed every day.
More than daily
You mean GLaDOS has been responsible for running lemmy.world? Goddammit, Chell, look at what your shenanigans did!
Without a fan on that heatsink, that's one.... Hot Potato.
The potato's got a TDP of 15W dw it'll be fine passive.
True, hopefully they've put thermal grease on it...
Preferably butter.
Bits of cheese in it too, makes the heat taste better
It's baking
😏
Finally someone says it. It's been crashing for like 2 days
They've been repeatedly attacked recently...
When did they say that? Could it be Reddit?
We don't talk about the R place here. They mentioned the attacks several times. Here for instance. Edit : and here
And here, posted today by admins.
They've talked about the ddosing on the lemmy.world discord server.
They can't say it because their instance is down :)
PS2 and VGA connector, tiny heatsink, only 1 USB slot… That's an antedeluvian machine, no wonder it can't take the load ^^
We call them 'vintage potatoes.'
Adding another stick of memory would really turn this thing into a beast! It’s never wise to use a single stick.
how are you holding up? because I'm a potato >~>
Clap
Clap
Clap
Oh good. My slow clap processing has made it into this thing. So we have that.
Hey Lemmy admins, what can the users do to help?
I think the idea is to disperse to other instances. If lemmy.world has 70% of users then it makes a bigger target for attack.
If we are dispersed then, even if lemmy.world goes down it would only effect a small portion of your feed.
Either way, the more spread out our net of users is the stronger the fediverse will be. I am going to move instances myself, although my content will still be viewable on lemmy.world. such is the power of the fediverse
I've done this to a degree as well. I used this LASIM tool someone wrote to auto-move all my user settings and subscribed communities. Pretty neat!
https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
Hope to see a kbin version one day!
Growing pains. I remember when Reddit had this problem. That was 8 years ago
And again almost 13 years ago when the Digg and Slashdot migrations happened
And again last week.
going on the site is flipping a coin for whether it'll be up or not
Always happy to see Linux on a potato!
smugly points out other servers exist
correct me if i'm wrong, but i think if the instance your account is on is down you can't interact with any other instances?
I think you may misunderstand. Let's say Lemmy.world goes down, you are still free to make a new account on any other Lemmy instance and still have the same username (hopefully). Smokeydope@Lemmy.world simply becomes smokeydope@lemm.ee or whatever instance you make a new account on. A lot of instances federate with most other instances so you will more or less get access to the same content. A good Lemmy client like Voyager/wefwef.app let's you hot swap between multiple accounts
Unfortunately there's no way to export/import sub's which I think should be a feature in the future. I'm not sure if you can access Lemmy.world content from another instance while it's down maybe someone else can chime in on that.
Here is a good instance list that shows number of users. Seeing it really helped me understand why Lemmy.world is down. It has 22k users. The next largest has 4k. Most others barely scrape hundreds.
https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances
We are guilty as aspecies of tending to choose the most popular option because it offers the most interaction. The enemy of federation is ourselves and cognitive bias. I am guilty as charged.
Here's a good list to find reddit sub replacements on fediverse too very helpful https://sub.rehab/
You can use this to migrate your settings/communities:
https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
+1 on that import/export subs
By the way, Awesome Lemmy Instances shows monthly active users, not total user counts. Your point still stands that lemmy.world has many more users than all the other ones tho.
Here is a list that also shows total users: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
According to lemmy.world admins, the downtime is caused by DDOS attacks, not big user count. I still think the large user count is part of the problem because I imagine it's easier to DDOS one server with 120,000 users than 12 servers with 10,000 users
I don't understand what this means. If I compare the All tab between lemmy.world and a smaller instance like lemmy.ca, they are both pretty much identical. I don't feel like I'm missing any interaction.
For small instances I can see why it's a problem since at least one person needs to be subscribed to each community to federate the posts, but there are many instances that are big enough to not really have this problem.
Thanks for the info! What I meant by that was that traditional social media has always lived and died by popularity. People congregated to the most popular and thus most active sites and forms because they offered the most chance for interaction and someone Seeing what you write. There's a reason why when everyone used reddit Digg faded to obscurity or when MySpace was replaced by FB. There's probably some real life examples of this kind of mass congregation of social human beings leading to towns and whatever but that's besides the point.
Federation changes the game in a fundamental way. No longer is the biggest centralized site the 'best one' instead a bunch of small instances can have more or less the same reach, content, and interaction as a big one. It will take some time for people who grew up with the rise of social media like myself to mentally adapt to the idea.
They're implying people can go make an account on those other instances to continue to use lemmy. Smugly.
Network error, Network error, Network error. This shit is worse than trying to stream a video with dial up
Put it in H!
iTater
so true
Lol this is funny. @gsa32 if you created this you deserve an award. 🎖️