Neuralink Barrels Into Human Tests Despite Fraud Claims

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Neuralink Barrels Into Human Tests Despite Fraud Claims
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If the IEEE (electrical engineering society) is saying something it must be really bad. They rarely if ever get involved in things like this.

Neuralink announced in September that it was recruiting volunteers for its human study. Thousands of people have reportedly signed up to receive the brain implant.

Welp…

Why do they want it? What does it actually do?

Kills you painfully with a brain infection, I think. I don’t really see the appeal.

Neuralink's device has a chip that processes and transmits neural signals that could be transmitted to devices like a computer or a phone.

The company hopes that a person would potentially be able to control a mouse, keyboard or other computer functions like text messaging with their thoughts.

"First @Neuralink product will enable someone with paralysis to use a smartphone with their mind faster than someone using thumbs," Musk said in April 2021

https://www.reuters.com/technology/what-does-elon-musks-brain-chip-company-neuralink-do-2022-12-05/

Neuralink’s device has a chip that processes and transmits neural signals that could be transmitted to devices like a computer or a phone.

Haven't we already been able to do that with non-invasive EKG sensors strapped to the temples before?

There's consumer level transcranial magnetic stimulation kits you can get.

So are these thousands of people disabled? Because that would be the silver lining. I dont think the trials will go well, but I mean thats how desperate these people are. And at least the tech is being worked in some form. But the siccest shit comes out of the worst assholes.

I'd imagine most of the people signing up haven't actually looked into it and are envisioning Matrix shit or something. Like the thousands of people who signed up for Mars One

Matrix shit? Like being forced to be a drone in a monotonous VR world while their bodies are harvested for energy until they fail? Doesn't really seem like an aspirational situation but I guess there must be a few Cyphers out there ..

I meant like downloading kung fu knowledge to your brain

If they're thinking at all... it's likely less drone, more "leather trench coat, sleek sunglasses, uzis, katanas, and bullet time"

No. This kind of thing is being worked on by legitimate academic neuroscientists at places like Stanford. They abide by a code of medical and scientific ethics. That’s where this kind of thing is going to come from.

They’re not going to come from some guy who killed a $44B company by making the stupidest move possible at every decision branch.

It probably could do those things, but instead it'll harvest your thoughts to send advertising keywords to Twitter, and play unskippable ads directly inside of your brain.

I've always wanted to give corporations access to my thoughts

Don't forget to pay your monthly subscription, or you'll wake up and discover they've turned off your visual cortex rendering you blind until you bring your payment account up to date, plus pay a $47 late fee.

Oh, they’re going to get so sued if they actually do this. I’m picturing the window-shatter demo of the cybertruck, but with brains.

I wonder how many of those bag lickers that volunteered refused to get the Covid vaccine.

But the covid vaccine implanted microchips into people... oh....

If only there was a government agency with both the will and the authority to do something. Oh well.

This reminds me of Trump's contribution to covid " uh can't you just flash light on it, or drink chlorine?". Just truly brilliant people having world changing ideas. "We'll surgically implant chips into brains.. ignore the dead chimps

The only way this should be allowed to move forward is if the board of directors all have the procedure done first.

You ready to get a montage reel of people pulling their brains out while screaming, straight from a scifi horror movie?

Any nuanced opinions about Elon Musk here? 👀

Feel free to provide one. He seems to me to be a lunatic

When 7 billion people know when you are, the chances of pleasing everyone is close to absolute zero. He has character flaws. So do I. So do you. He also runs very important future forward companies. He helped curate collections of the best talent in the world to create great tech.

He is very good at the following things:

  • being born rich
  • investing in a slam dunk future technology everyone on the planet knows we will need, eg money on the internet, electric cars, space ships
  • taking risks in combining the above

That is about as far as his skillset runs. As we've seen from twitter, when he doesn't have an entire layer of his organisation set up to run interference in him, he quickly runs companies into the ground. He has had zero original ideas.

He's also a dangerous alt-right racist nutjob.

Yes except his character flaws make him a terrible fucking human. But you can keep trying to justify his behavior and beliefs just because you happen to like SpaceX or Tesla or whatever. Won’t fly with many of us.

That you think musk's character flaws are comparable to the average person's says more about you than it does him

The man's good at generating hype for his companies, I'll give you that. His blatant disregard for his employees' wellbeing, retweeting of antisemitic lies, manchild personality, and implicit support of far right ideology in general goes far beyond the average person's character flaws, however

Yes. He's smart enough to mostly back the right R&D horses, and good at generating hype. That way, he almost manages to offset the damage he does when his ego gets in the way or he thinks he's qualified to make engineering decisions or to know which corners to cut.