Joe Biden whisked to safety by Secret Service as car slams into motorcade
Biden was emerging from his Delaware campaign headquarters when the car ploughed into an SUV guarding his motorcade
President Joe Biden and First Lady Jill Biden were rushed to safety by the Secret Service after a car suddenly ploughed into a parked SUV that was guarding the presidential motorcade.
Mr Biden was walking out of his campaign headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware, on Sunday night to his waiting armoured SUV when a silver copper sedan hit a US Secret Service vehicle that was closing off intersections for the president’s departure.
The sedan, which carried a Delaware licence plate, then tried to continue into a closed-off intersection, before Secret Service personnel surrounded the vehicle with their weapons drawn and instructed the driver to put his hands up.
Mr Biden was captured looking stunned and froze when he heard the loud bang close by.
The article says that Biden "looked stunned and froze", but there is video embedded in the article and it's clear that Biden was stunned in the sense of "Holy shit, what was that?", and not in terms of having some sort of episode. But now we're gonna get all the idiots reminding us that they think Biden is too old for all this.
I mean Biden is too old, so is Trump, so is Nancy, so are most of the folks currently running our government. It’s a problem, but it’s not one unique to Joe, it’s systemic
Biden the a far better and more mentally qualified candidate than Trump for virtually any position but especially president, not to mention not expressing desires to be a dictator or echoed Hitler.
He is to old for this, hell he even says he doesn't want to do this anymore but is because trump is running....but this is not why he is to old for it.
Given the lunacy of cult45 and their delusions of empires pay master pootie, I suspect everyone is too old for this shit.
he did not even want to run the first time but did for the need to defeat trump.
*Sanders
Unlikely to win the moderate vote, and also in his 80s.
FTFY.
There are a whole bunch of leftists and anti-authoritarians who are almost as disillusioned with the Democrats as they are with the Republicans. The notion of the general election hinging on "moderates" is nothing but Democratic Party fiction.
They'll vote democrat since republicans are way further out from their desires, and will actively pull the country even further right. Democrats know this, so they don't have to work as hard for the left vote.
That's another fallacy: they might vote Democrat, or they might vote Green or Libertarian as a protest, or they might not vote at all. And it's those latter two possibilities that matter, because (even Democrats admit that) elections are won on turnout, not flipping mythical swing voters.
Appealing to leftists and/or anti-authoritarians is what increasing turnout looks like, but neoliberals would rather lose than admit that.
Most won't, because that's a surefire way to get a Republican elected.
There are far more "centrists" in the US who need to be swayed to a party than there are leftists who will usually just vote democrat anyway to avoid a Republican in office.
If you can win without the left, you can lose without blaming them.
They won’t vote at all. A vote is a demonstration that you are picking something that represents you. If neither party of statistical significance represents you, don’t vote. If you do, you’re just giving carte blanche to corporatist Dems to keep doing business as usual. Letting the Dems fail until they get the message seems to be the only thing they might notice any more.
If one party is wholly and entirely opposed to everything you are (republicans), and the other at least won't attempt to make your life actively worse, then yes, you do vote for the lesser evil.
They don’t contribute enough votes to matter.
That's just nonsense put out by his campaign.
It's obviously not true that a career politician who was already VP didn't really want to be president. He ran in a heavily contended primary and wasn't always the front-runner.
I don't agree it was just his campaign. Who and when was someone else the front runner? I mean early on when the small states are in anyone can be but once some major ones are under the belt its not exactly neck and neck.
He IS too old for this...so is Trump. The fate of the US is in the hands of the coronary health of two fucking assholes that should be in nursing homes.
I'm too old for all this shit and I'm younger than the youngest president in history
Maybe we should swap the age limit so 35 is the upper limit not the lower.
Having it as an upper age limit was a response to Europe having a century of wars where young men ascended to thrones, and made impulsive decisions to launch invasions, expand conflicts, etc. It's not crazy to lower it slightly, but it's also not something we want to bring down by much.
The electorate should get to choose whoever it wants. We don’t need som group of assholes amending the Constitution to limit voter choice. Biden was the clear and decisive victor of a primary with over 20 candidates, none of whom came close to beating him. If anything we should change the voting age.
They say it unprompted, so nothing in the conversation will change.
They've been pushing hard on the 'Biden is senile' bullshit for years, and no surprise they're going extra hard to weaken him in the minds of the stupid and easily swayed.
Wtf is Bis2n?
Biden, autocorrect can only do so much for those who past first thing in the morning.
Oh, okay.
Thought this was some new magat lingo.
... I never expected to say, but I hope he was just drunk. I mean, of all the car accidents you could possibly get into, this is pretty high on the shitty list.
Imagine if this was someone taking their driving test for the first time.
Driving tester: Ok proceed through this intersection.
Driver: But it looks closed, there's SUVs parked blocking it.
Driving tester: Proceed through this intersection or you will be failed.
Driver: What am I supposed to do about the parked vehicles?
Driving tester: You had an opportunity to ask questions before we started. This is not a driving lesson, it is a driving test. Now proceed through the intersection and then look for a space to parallel park.
Driver: Slams into SUV
Driving tester: Scribbles notes
Driver: Now what? Those secret service agents don't look very happy.
Driving tester: Proceed through the intersection.
Driver: !?
Secret service agents: Swarm
Driving tester: You've failed. Can't even make it through an intersection without threatening the president.
Driver: What was I supposed to do you crazy asshole!?
Driving tester: How about slow to a stop and wait for the motorcade to pass instead of ramming a secret service SUV and trying to leave the scene of the accident because you need to get through the intersection? And you're acting like I'm the crazy asshole...
Finally a headline with "slams" and it actually means something!
Kbobabob slams journalists!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Mr Biden was walking out of his campaign headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware, on Sunday night to his waiting armoured SUV when a silver copper sedan hit a US Secret Service vehicle that was closing off intersections for the president’s departure.
The sedan, which carried a Delaware licence plate, then tried to continue into a closed-off intersection, before Secret Service personnel surrounded the vehicle with their weapons drawn and instructed the driver to put his hands up.
Special Agent Steve Kopek, a Secret Service spokesperson, said in a statement that the vehicle struck had been securing the route for Mr Biden’s motorcade.
The Bidens had spent the night aving a meal with members of his re-election team inside the Biden-Harris 2024 headquarters in downtown Wilmington at the time of the incident, according to a White House press pool report.
The president and first lady had emerged from the headquarters into the rainy downtown area at around 8.07pm, where Dr Biden waved to pool reporters and wished them “Happy Holidays”.
Wilmington Police Department spokesperson David Karas told Axios that local officers were “investigating the motor vehicle collision”.
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I was expecting more urgency from the security. Yeeting Joe into the car, slamming the door then duel wielding guns and just start blasting in every direction.. Kind of urgency.
And instead they exhibited calm professional and actually useful behavior. Real World Professionalism VS Movie BS means no one needed to die.
Yeah. The Bidens are safe. The assailant is under arrest. Nobody's dog got shot.
It's obvious why this is a confusing outcome.
Is he an assailant? Or was it just an accident?
Might have just been trying to get to the Country Kitchen Buffet.
Was he asleep at the wheel or is this all the fault of Big Woke?!?!?!?!?!?!??????
For people arguing Biden isn't too old to be president...
This points out he's not spending the next two years just being president, he's running for president at the same time.
It's a shit ton to expect out of someone in their mid 80s.
We'd be better off if he stepped aside and focused on one job he's 20 years too old for instead of fumbling one for two years and now adding another.
At least one of the two will fall behind, maybe both
Biden is 81, not young but also not mid-80s. Trump is three years younger than him. Why is Biden's age a problem but not Trump's?
I'm trying to figure out how an election less than a year away means he'll be spending the next 2 years running for president
Because quantum physics, obviously. /s
The Biden Wave Function!!!
Because for Trump and his followers, every accusation is an admission.
Fascist propaganda doesn't work when you attack the senile leader of your cult's mental acuity. I mean, just remember how good his memory is: person woman man camera tv!
Queen Elizabeth II was 96 when she died. Age has no meaning, the individual does. If they are mentally able to act as President then that is all that matters.
I wouldn't really use her as an example, because she didn't really have much of a real job that took mental acuity.
Now Mahmoud Abbas has led the Palestinian Authority through nearly impossible conditions and he's 88. That's a better example IMO.
The Monarch of England still has a large role in the Government of the United Kingdom, but less of a role than the President of the United States. Still, at 95 she was fully operating and on her game.
What?
They both are.
Climate change is a problem too, I didn't list every issue that's threatening our country
You're right. You didn't list every issue. You just stated what was wrong with one of the two men who are viable candidates and didn't even hint that the other would have the exact same issue. Seems a little bit one-sided.
Or maybe I'm commenting in a place with effectively zero trump supporters so there's context?
Seriously, this isn't reddit. Since exploding heads got defederated, I legitimately can't remember the last time I saw a pro trump comment on Lemmy.
There's a shit ton of warning signs that Biden might not be able to beat trump again. And by his own admission he's not the only one he thinks can beat trump. Like a week ago he said at least 50 others can.
He won't even say he has the best shot, but he has said the only reason he's running is because Trump is
Shit like that doesn't help his chances. But him and his team don't realize that
Getting mad at people for pointing that out is like burning a woman for being a witch because she recognized an illness that will kill someone or that a bad harvest is coming.
Knowing something bad is likely to happen, doesn't mean I want it to. I'm just fucking trying to warn people.
Suggesting you are being one-sided is not getting mad at you, and there are still Trump supporters on Lemmy.
And I still say that I don't see how Biden's age is a problem but Trump's age isn't. Because if those are the only two who have a chance and they are almost the same age, I don't see why age is a factor.
Trump isn't also trying to run the country while he's campaigning.
Great, I don't understand why you'd still be saying that after I clarified both of their ages are a problem...
Biden is the only dem.that has a chance... Because the party leadership unilaterally decided we don't get a primary.
That is the issue,
It's an issue for both of them.
It seems like instead of admitting that, you're thinking it somehow cancels each other out...
Which makes no sense. And I don't see how any more exchanges is going to be remotely productive if that's your line of logic.
If it's an issue for both of them, it's an issue for neither of them. Because they're the only two who have a chance of being elected. Your clarification didn't clarify why it is a factor if it both candidates have the same issue.
My god... this argument again.
Everyone is sooooo concerned about Biden's age, but not Trumps. It's bizarrely unbalanced.
Fine dude. Convince him to step aside. I'll vote against Trump no matter who the Democratic Party fields. Can you say the same?
Name someone who has a better chance to beat Trump.
Bernie, if he chose to run, which it seems he's firmly decided not to. But, if he did, he would (imo of course) probably defeat Biden in the primary, and then completely obliterate the general.
The drive to find a viable "outsider" is stronger than ever, and Bernie has that, while also having a pretty firm lock on the moral high ground to shell Trump from. Biden has unfortunately lost that edge, due to his staunch support for Israel, which many of us consider to be the incorrect position in the modern day and are trying hard to pressure him away from.
I don't think Bernie wants to, though. I think he's okay supporting Biden, all things considered, and is also getting rather old himself. He blazed the trail that other progressives will have to follow to keep that torch aloft, and someday carry it into the presidency.
Sanders is older than Biden, so if we're arguing that Biden is too old to be president, Sanders is definitely too old to be president. I don't know whether he has a better chance of beating Trump or not, but on the subject of age, which is what was just brought up, Biden is a year younger than Sanders.
Yes, I am aware. I was focusing on Sanders' advantages as opposed to his disadvantages. I think the advantages would strongly outweigh the disadvantages, despite the disadvantages existing.
I like bernie and supported him but I held my nose and voted hilary all the same. I really don't see him running at this point.
Bernie would lose a great number of center votes. The guy was praising Chavez and Venezuela not that long ago. It is easy for him to suggest all these programs when he knows there is no way to pay for it.
Yeah, no one in their right mind would write all that.
World is a big place, get out more.
Ok, dad. Let me put in my crazy cap first, it's cold outside.
Your biology will continue to change too, son, we're not done growing at 18. Or even 25. Your experience will also increase as you meet more and more people, and the importance of compromise as a virtue, not a vice, will very likely become more apparent.
Especially if you ever have to parent a teen. That's a really fun one.
Sure, as long as you aren't denying the crazy.
Not at all. All the best people are a little crazy. The others are too often dull.
According to the recent polls, literally any other democrat.
So you think Kamala Harris has a better shot?
That doesn't really follow.
You're saying that no other democrat would poll worse?
So, Jimmy Carter would have a better chance of being elected? Hillary Clinton? My 70-year old rambling uncle?
Your pretending to be dumb, except I don’t think you’re pretending
Marianne williamson, Dean Phillips. Both are on the primary ballot.
Ah yes, famed politician Marianne Williamson, who has previously talked about defeating Trump's "dark psychic force".
Marianne Williamson is a woo-woo peddler who is in no way, shape, or form suited to be elected to dog catcher, let alone president and Dean Phillips is Representative (no Representative has ever been elected president) who is such a shitty politician that he under-performed Biden as an incumbent in his own district in 2020.
These are not serious answers.
Being a Representative is not any criteria for dismissing the validity of a candidate. You could use the same logic to dismiss a female candidate, a Pacific Islander, and more.
Not even close. Experience is relevant when seeking a job; gender and ethnicity is not.
And neither has any real possibility of being the nominee much less defeating cult45.
Have you seen the polls?
Biden isn't the best chance against trump.
trump is the best chance politicians like Hillary and Biden had/have at becoming president
We're 1/2, and polling for round three is a lot worse than last time.
You still didn't name someone. You lose.
Trolls just gonna troll
Literally any other democrat.
Such as, specifically?
The poll asked who would you rather vote for. Democrat voters said they would rather vote for “any other democrat”
Quit making stupid arguments and repeating back your MSNBC garbage
Lol
Kamala Harris.
But it's weird you think Biden is wrong and he's the only one that can beat trump.
And expect me to defend Biden's statement.
Is this one of those times moderates tell someone they should know better than listening to a moderate politician?
She's not popular enough by far. She kinda fell off once Biden was elected and hasn't had much of the spotlight. That's a problem with name recognition with voters. Also, what's she accomplished that most people would know of?
The issue is incumbency bias: winners are perceived to be able to win again. That and she's VP. If anything happens to Biden, she becomes president. For that reason alone she's a terrible candidate for a democratic primary. Biden would then need a new VP candidate for the election which would be further scrutinized.
yeah. im worried she will be running for 2028 and lose. its sad but her best bet is biden dies in office.
Well, maybe you should go ask Biden for his list of 50 other Dems...
Then tell him he's wrong and doesn't know what he's talking about, but also he's the only one that can win despite polls showing he's not even that well off against trump.
I'm over the cognizant dissonance his supporters keep insisting on. No idea why people think the correct response to Republican bullshit is doing the same thing as them
Lol. You have no answers and the feeble ones you've tried are easily debunked. You're not trying to get a better candidate you're trying to sow dissatisfaction.
Ah yes...
Recognizing an issue is the same as causing it to some people.
I thought that ended with the Salem witch trials, yet here we are.
It's snowing here now, just like the weather person said it would. Should I call him up and demand he shovel my driveway? He saw this coming, so clearly he caused it by acknowledging it. If he'd have just pretended it was going to be 70 degrees it would be a nice day out
Harris has consistently polled below Biden and has had the lowest rating of any VP for decades.
So who is polling better? Name names