Unfazed by latest lawsuit, Giuliani re-ups fraud claims that cost him $148 million
“They are suing me in order to lie to them. I’m sorry, I can’t do it,” he said.
Rudy Giuliani doubled down on his election-related allegations Monday, just days after two Georgia election workers won millions in a defamation lawsuit against him and hours after they filed another suit against him.
The former New York mayor must pay $148 million in damages to election workers Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss as a result of their emotional distress following Giuliani’s accusations that the two were manipulating ballots in 2020. The second lawsuit sought to keep him from repeating the debunked claims at the heart of the first case.
In a rambling interview with Newsmax’s Rob Schmitt, Giuliani blasted the verdict, describing the court as a “fascist system run by the Biden regime.”
Giuliani told Schmitt that he still believes the allegations to be true, but that they “want me to lie.”
“If I showed you the evidence right now … people would see that what I said was absolutely true and there’s support for it.”
The time to show exonerating evidence was BEFORE he got ordered to pay $148 million...
Or is he saving it for the criminal trial and just doesn't want to play his hand early?
Is the evidence in the room with us now Rudy?
Show us on the doll where the evidence touched you Rudy.
His girlfriend has the evidence. You wouldn't know her. She goes to another school.
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RussiaCanada.People who have exonerating evidence show it, and everything goes away without any civil or criminal trials.
People who have only bullshit lose trials and get criminal charges because all they have are lies. Their only play is to keep doubling down on the lies.
I can’t see how waiting would help.
Revealing the evidence in a civil case would show the prosecuters in the criminal case what his strategy is and let them work around it sooner than they would be able to otherwise.
I think Grampy Rudy is playing the long game, knowing that's he's going to dodge paying a penny to anyone, but that the real strategy is "stay out of jail."
But he claims it totally exonerates him, in which case they would not even bring a criminal trial.
Oh, it's coming regardless of the evidence.
Obviously we all know here that Giuliani has no 'evidence', but if he did and they brought a criminal case, so what? It would get tossed out.
They already brought the criminal case and that's not the way criminal cases work. The evidence still has to be presented at trial and would need to be cross examined.
So by releasing that information early, in a civil case, they would be giving the prosecution the advantage of extra time to poke holes in their defense.
You don't just present evidence in a criminal case and get to go home, trials don't work like that.
Giuliani claims it's bulletproof, completely exonerating evidence. So they couldn't poke holes in it. If such evidence was made public, the prosecution would back down rather than run a hopeless case against him. Of course, we know that he has nothing, as noted.
No prosecution backs down like that, again, trials don't work that way.
If they have already initiated the case, Sure. They'd evaluate the evidence in court. If they hadn't, no, they could decide to not bring charges if it seemed like it would be a waste of time and/or they'd be censured for a frivolous case.
We're talking about the Georgia election interference, so yes, the criminal case is already initiated. :)
We're also talking about some purely hypothetical world where Giuliani has 'evidence'.
I mean sure that might buy him some time, but I was under the impression that you can't just show new evidence during a trial that you had before the trial. Isn't all evidence shared between parties before setting foot in the court room?
The much simpler explanation I think is he's talking out his ass and praying for a dictator Trump to save him.
It is, during the discovery process, but there's no reason to let the prosecution in on it before discovery and who knows when that will happen?
Leaking the info in a civil case might have saved him some money, but may end up hurting the criminal case.
Do any of us believe said evidence exists?
In the context of this particular case, I'm not sure this type strategy is actually relevant. How many cases that were filed after that election got dismissed with prejudice for failing to provide any actual evidence? It didn't exist then, it doesn't exist now.
I personally don't because of the pattern of behavior in the Trump orbit...
"We sent the best investigators to Hawaii and you just wait until you see what they uncovered at our big press conference next Tuesday!"
(Next Tuesday) "Crickets."
"Yeah, well, we sent Rudy Giuliani to Ukraine and you just wait until you see what he uncovered at our big press conference next Tuesday!"
(Next Tuesday) "Crickets."
"Yeah, well, we sent the Cyber Ninjas to Arizona and you just wait until you see what they uncovered at our big press conference next Tuesday!"
(Next Tuesday) "Crickets."
That last one actually did come back with a report - that said little to no fraud took place. They spent millions of dollars and used some shady practices with the ballots, but even they couldn't find anything.
I'm just failing to come up with any scenarios where that'd be helpful other than some Q conspiracies being true or something. But IANAL..
^ That’s all ya need to know.
Rudy has been assimilated by the mother of all reality distortion fields and having pandered once seems incapable now of stopping.
'unfazed' is a weird way to spell senile
He might be senile, he might also just be insane like that. Remember this? https://movieweb.com/borat-subsequent-moviefilm-giuliani-scene-not-faked/
And people once thought this cunt would be president someday
He topped out at "drunk lecher who ruined his reputation so he could cup Trump's balls".
Don't forget greasing up his 2" punisher with leaky hair dye before felating him to completion in exchange for using donations from Trump's dumb-fuck followers to pay his legal fees.
He doesn't have $148M and he's hidden his assets in a bullshit nonprofit. Can a civil defamation and libel/slander suit do anything but try to extract more money? At this point he's sitting where Alex Jones is: as destitute as the courts can legally make them. More debt won't mean anything. He no longer has to fear punishment be cause the only punishment is meaningless.
I don't want there to be debtors prison nor do I want to curtail free speech, so I'm unsure what other measures can be taken.
Wait, how do l startup a bullshit non-profit and put what little I have there out of the grubby hands of debtors and shit?
I actually looked into something similar: making a corporation and basically making my corporate entity take on all liabilities while assets remain in a separate holding company.
This was mostly a thought/legal experiment with the goal of using the very cushy corporate precedents to shield me from things like accidents, etc. while allowing me to benefit from zero taxes, etc. Basically if something happened to me like a multimillion dollar court case, I'd dissolve the first entity, taking all its liabilities with it, and then set up a second subsidiarity. This is something most corporations do today.
The TL;DR is that while it's possible, it takes up a lot of time and resources and will likely need to hire an accountant to keep it all straight.
The reason why companies and rich people do this is because they have the resources and incentive. The only incentive I'd have is to save a bit on taxes and push off some risk. But not enough that it'd be worth hiring a full time accountant.
Anyone can do it, but it's gonna cost what little you have.
Corrupt old fuck who will probably have to hide where he will be buried over fears it will be vandalized for sure.
They’re going to have to bury these shitty weirdos on the moon LOL
Just flush them twice so they don't float back up
Launch them to Pluto. It's out of site, out of mind and not even a planet anymore.
Don't waste the resources trying to send some ashes to a small speck far from earth.
Just launch em straight into the sun, big target and a perfect alternative for where they should go if it existed. The burning fires of hell.
Nah. Too expensive, it would cost hundreds of millions that could be used feeding and housing the poor. Just dump the whole body on an active volcano. Same fiery end and it's possible to stream the event to the whole world.
We could try to convince Elron that Rudy is a Great Patriot and deserves a funeral in orbit.
While I agree with you, it’s Out of “sight”
No planet shaming, please. Rudy shaming. Well that’s fine.
Seems like he's betting that the fascist will win and favor him with a pardon.
He's betting on staying in court until he dies .... which isn't long now given his age. He'll just keep fighting, knowing that no one will ever win.
Trump uses the same tactic .... all these old farts only have one ace in the cards - AGE - and they know that if they just keep fighting, they'll eventually pass, they would have had whatever bit of wealth and freedom for the remainder of their lives, and their opponents will get nothing except wasting their time in court.
The people prosecuting them are saints in my books ... because if it weren't for people like them, people like Giuliani and Trump would have more freedom to wreak all kinds of other havoc instead. The prosecutors are occupying these ugly dragons to keep them from wandering around and destroying things elsewhere.
How many repeat trials do you need in the US to end up behind bars?
Unfortunately the kind where civil becomes criminal probably.
Well yeah, either Trump is reelected and he's saved or Trump loses and he's doomed. There's no middle ground for him anymore lol
Trump can't pardon $150 million even if they all escape prison.
Don’t trust rule of law to survive a second trump presidency.
Trump could do literally anything he wants and his fascist Supreme Court will defend him.
Laws aren't real. They're just rules we all agree to follow, and those rules can change.
Yip, if Trump is elected again, current laws won't matter anymore.
I bet Trump's gonna win. There's still so many lunatics in red states.
Those states were never in question, though. Of course Hickedickle Alabama or Idaho are going to vote for a Republican, whoever it is. As usual the actual election is between the states that are close (so called 'purple'... I actually hate this color code the media thought of).
How does someone that fucking stupid remember to breathe every day?
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In for a penny, in for £116 million.
Double down on the statements? Double down on the fine. $296m.
Triple it you sad sack of shit.
Can someone please get him some medical help for his obvious mental health issues?
What do you mean? He just got his health checkup not long ago. The doctors at the Four Seasons Total Doctoring said he was fine.